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Spend Cash, Goliath Bash

  • Waffennacht
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    @Waffennacht eggy don't u rebind your other buttons like sprint and bar swap to your joystick buttons so you never have to remove your fingers from the sticks to cast.

    Still gotta remove right tumb for X, Y, A, and B which is the aiming joystick.

    You can make it where you don't move the left thumb off as much by switching barswap.

    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Dude, use your eagle claw technique. Pai mei teaches it. I hear he's hates blondes though.
  • kokoandshinb14a_ESO
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    Are u fully procd fury with 7th procd?
  • Master_Kas
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P
    Edited by Master_Kas on June 14, 2019 7:47AM
    EU | PC
  • Waffennacht
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Aurielle
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.
  • technohic
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    It lacks a resource management tool not tied to a corpse. Was the same issue for templar when focus buffs were static
  • Kartalin
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    My guild plays noncp (10-14 organized magicka heavy with defined roles) and we replaced two bombblades with magcro alts and they perform as well or better. Our bombers wear harmony for synergies of course (and Spinners VD) and having a self-synergy on pushes is really nice on top of other synergies. Main ult is still destro or colossus. With the necros we got more tanky with minimal damage loss.

    We’ve also encountered really strong groups around 8 in size that run 3-4 stamcros with the Goliath bash spam and we’re getting hit for around 6k per bash. Our only defense right now is have a magplar hit remembrance and the magblade support hit soul siphon while we try to get out of the way. Compound this with being negated and encased—if our purgers and healers are in the negate we’re superf***ed. It’s pretty frustrating at the moment.

    So still working on a counter. Full stam group, or use Goliath cheese ourselves? Rather not have to do that.
    • PC/NA
    • Karllotta, AD Magplar, AR 50
    • Hatched-In-Glacier, DC Magden, AR 44
    • Miraliys, EP Warden, AR 35
    • Kartalin, AD Stamblade, AR 35
    • Miralys, AD Magsorc, AR 35
    • Milthalas, EP Magblade, AR 35
    • Kallenna, AD Magcro, AR 34
    • Lyranais, EP Magsorc, AR 34
    • Lemon Party - Meanest Girls - @ Kartalin - Youtube
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    technohic wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    It lacks a resource management tool not tied to a corpse. Was the same issue for templar when focus buffs were static
    This is the main drawback our guys have noticed. They use spell sym between pushes to help this and our healers have to be on point. Also we have orbs going regularly.

    Running solo or small scale would definitely be more challenging I think.
    • PC/NA
    • Karllotta, AD Magplar, AR 50
    • Hatched-In-Glacier, DC Magden, AR 44
    • Miraliys, EP Warden, AR 35
    • Kartalin, AD Stamblade, AR 35
    • Miralys, AD Magsorc, AR 35
    • Milthalas, EP Magblade, AR 35
    • Kallenna, AD Magcro, AR 34
    • Lyranais, EP Magsorc, AR 34
    • Lemon Party - Meanest Girls - @ Kartalin - Youtube
  • LordTareq
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    I bet they wait
    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    It is an excellent support tank. It has all the tools a pvp tank can dream of, AOE debuff to foes, AOE buff to friends, AOE CC, AOE root, heal negate on target, self purge & self healing. And a handy passive pull vs ranged. Even when they go full tank they are still useful in BG's. Had one in a match today who had 45k health and was immortal. Our entire team wasn't able to kill him. He obviously didn't do any damage, but each time he went in Pummeling Goliath mode he still didn't do insane damage, but enough to score some kills. His continuous AOE debuffs & CC were annoying, and if he got to a flag first there was no chance of the other teams getting that flag.
  • Iskiab
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    It's why we're dont have more stamina characters using snb for bash weaves.

    I play on PC-NA but still use an Xbox controller. It’s more comfortable using a controller then keyboard and mouse and I do fine.

    Some things I’ll never be able to do well, like bash cancel, but whatever.

    Back on topic - bash Goliath is definitely OP. Hits me in no-CP for 5k, and with lag it’s like I go from 100-0 instantly.
    Edited by Iskiab on June 15, 2019 12:17AM
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  • Waffennacht
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    LordTareq wrote: »
    I bet they wait
    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    It is an excellent support tank. It has all the tools a pvp tank can dream of, AOE debuff to foes, AOE buff to friends, AOE CC, AOE root, heal negate on target, self purge & self healing. And a handy passive pull vs ranged. Even when they go full tank they are still useful in BG's. Had one in a match today who had 45k health and was immortal. Our entire team wasn't able to kill him. He obviously didn't do any damage, but each time he went in Pummeling Goliath mode he still didn't do insane damage, but enough to score some kills. His continuous AOE debuffs & CC were annoying, and if he got to a flag first there was no chance of the other teams getting that flag.

    But going 6-0 just isn't good enough, even with 19 assists.

    We need something around the 11-0 range in 50+ BGs. Like capability wise
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Aurielle
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    LordTareq wrote: »
    I bet they wait
    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    It is an excellent support tank. It has all the tools a pvp tank can dream of, AOE debuff to foes, AOE buff to friends, AOE CC, AOE root, heal negate on target, self purge & self healing. And a handy passive pull vs ranged. Even when they go full tank they are still useful in BG's. Had one in a match today who had 45k health and was immortal. Our entire team wasn't able to kill him. He obviously didn't do any damage, but each time he went in Pummeling Goliath mode he still didn't do insane damage, but enough to score some kills. His continuous AOE debuffs & CC were annoying, and if he got to a flag first there was no chance of the other teams getting that flag.

    Hmm. I just threw together a health regen and resistance oriented support/troll tank that did really well in the one BG I tested it with. Was playing against obvious potatoes though (got 14 kills and zero deaths with under 200k damage done, using just Silver Leash, Blastbones, Heroic Slash and Reverse Slice for damage, plus the occasional bout of bash spam), so it’s hard to really know how it would perform against competent players. I’ll have to try it again during the next weekday I have off from work, as that’s when I’m most likely to encounter the tryhard 24/7 BG types on PS4 NA.
  • LordTareq
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    LordTareq wrote: »
    I bet they wait
    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    It is an excellent support tank. It has all the tools a pvp tank can dream of, AOE debuff to foes, AOE buff to friends, AOE CC, AOE root, heal negate on target, self purge & self healing. And a handy passive pull vs ranged. Even when they go full tank they are still useful in BG's. Had one in a match today who had 45k health and was immortal. Our entire team wasn't able to kill him. He obviously didn't do any damage, but each time he went in Pummeling Goliath mode he still didn't do insane damage, but enough to score some kills. His continuous AOE debuffs & CC were annoying, and if he got to a flag first there was no chance of the other teams getting that flag.

    Hmm. I just threw together a health regen and resistance oriented support/troll tank that did really well in the one BG I tested it with. Was playing against obvious potatoes though (got 14 kills and zero deaths with under 200k damage done, using just Silver Leash, Blastbones, Heroic Slash and Reverse Slice for damage, plus the occasional bout of bash spam), so it’s hard to really know how it would perform against competent players. I’ll have to try it again during the next weekday I have off from work, as that’s when I’m most likely to encounter the tryhard 24/7 BG types on PS4 NA.
    LordTareq wrote: »
    I bet they wait
    Aurielle wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    Still waiting to see a pic of a BG necro doing anything, PERIOD. The class is kind of pitiful in no-CP from what I’ve seen so far, stam OR mag. I’m hoping it’ll be a decent support tank for Cyro, otherwise I’ll be pretty annoyed that I wasted all that time grinding Undaunted on mine.

    It is an excellent support tank. It has all the tools a pvp tank can dream of, AOE debuff to foes, AOE buff to friends, AOE CC, AOE root, heal negate on target, self purge & self healing. And a handy passive pull vs ranged. Even when they go full tank they are still useful in BG's. Had one in a match today who had 45k health and was immortal. Our entire team wasn't able to kill him. He obviously didn't do any damage, but each time he went in Pummeling Goliath mode he still didn't do insane damage, but enough to score some kills. His continuous AOE debuffs & CC were annoying, and if he got to a flag first there was no chance of the other teams getting that flag.

    But going 6-0 just isn't good enough, even with 19 assists.

    We need something around the 11-0 range in 50+ BGs. Like capability wise

    Infused bash damage jewelry and you will have no trouble reaching 11 kills. For as long as they don't nerf it (I'm sure they won't until their sale targets have been reached lol)
  • Sylosi
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    Yeah I am sure PvP players are queuing up for what is aside from some gimmick skill is seemingly considered one of the weakest classes in PvP with a bunch of bugged / poorly designed skills. People are surely desperate to watch their drunkbones stand still and do nothing, get that wallet out now.
    Edited by Sylosi on June 15, 2019 9:26AM
  • Master_Kas
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    I don't do BGs on this and never said so. It's for bombing squishy fools in cyro :smiley:
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  • Waffennacht
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    I don't do BGs on this and never said so. It's for bombing squishy fools in cyro :smiley:

    You mistake my post a little bit; it's not a put down; it's a true wish - I'll copy that in a heartbeat.

    I can build a VERY solid Stam necro (without bash cuz that's probably gonna get nerfed) but I am struggling to make a solid mag build. I'd even do a hybrid; but that just wants to be a pure Stam build
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • wheem_ESO
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    I can build a VERY solid Stam necro (without bash cuz that's probably gonna get nerfed) but I am struggling to make a solid mag build. I'd even do a hybrid; but that just wants to be a pure Stam build
    I leveled up a Stamina Necromancer, but need to get a decent build figured out + get a ton more skill points before I go into max level BGs. Still, just going by what I've seen from other players, and how mine felt in the handful of pre-50 BGs I did in order to get access to Vigor, it will have a lot more killing power than Magicka does.

    There have been a number of BGs on my Magicka Necromancer where I can get a solid kill-death-assist ratio, and save quite a few lives with some offhealing. But I'm not delusional - that sort of performance is only possible due to disorganized teams with players that aren't too great. As soon as I start encountering some of the players that are actually good, it becomes painfully obvious that the Magicka Necromancer is woefully underpowered in an offensive role.

    PS
    After watching my addon a little, it seems as though Blastbones' damage isn't counted on BG scoreboards. It might help soothe the ego a little if that changes, but the class is still going to be terrible for offense when compared to a Mag Sorc, or Stamina-anything.
  • UppGRAYxDD
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    To Build the Bash...You must be the Bash... none of these nonsense skills or whatnot. Back bar heals and ulti gen with your goliath slotted, SnB bar Nothing but Fighters guild abilities, detonation siphon, and flawless dawnbreaker...
    "Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."
  • cheemers
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    https://youtu.be/49tNG95uBSE
    Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCDQ7FrJ0AjMt2auffLEf_Pw

    PS4 EU - 18 characters, all DC
  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Thank God they nerfed snipe, wrecking blow and dark flare.
  • Waffennacht
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    cheemers wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    https://youtu.be/49tNG95uBSE

    @cheemers I should have said death match I suppose, spending 6 min to kill the one 810 player and then grabbing the ball (which makes people come to you) and then (dunno how many kills if any cuz not death match)

    If anything it shows how weak Goliath is in BGs
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  • leepalmer95
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    cheemers wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    https://youtu.be/49tNG95uBSE

    @cheemers I should have said death match I suppose, spending 6 min to kill the one 810 player and then grabbing the ball (which makes people come to you) and then (dunno how many kills if any cuz not death match)

    If anything it shows how weak Goliath is in BGs

    I mean i've watched fengrush wipe out both teams solo with it.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Waffennacht
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    cheemers wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    https://youtu.be/49tNG95uBSE

    @cheemers I should have said death match I suppose, spending 6 min to kill the one 810 player and then grabbing the ball (which makes people come to you) and then (dunno how many kills if any cuz not death match)

    If anything it shows how weak Goliath is in BGs

    I mean i've watched fengrush wipe out both teams solo with it.

    I'll never miss an opportunity to jab fengrush, that I "quit" overrated pug...

    Edit: we had beef years ago, and he quit, kinda, but I won't let it go!
    Edited by Waffennacht on June 17, 2019 2:06PM
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
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    cheemers wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    https://youtu.be/49tNG95uBSE

    @cheemers I should have said death match I suppose, spending 6 min to kill the one 810 player and then grabbing the ball (which makes people come to you) and then (dunno how many kills if any cuz not death match)

    If anything it shows how weak Goliath is in BGs

    I mean i've watched fengrush wipe out both teams solo with it.

    I'll never miss an opportunity to jab fengrush, that I "quit" overrated pug...

    Doesn't change the fact the skill is stupid and needs nerfing.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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    cheemers wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    https://youtu.be/49tNG95uBSE

    @cheemers I should have said death match I suppose, spending 6 min to kill the one 810 player and then grabbing the ball (which makes people come to you) and then (dunno how many kills if any cuz not death match)

    If anything it shows how weak Goliath is in BGs

    I mean i've watched fengrush wipe out both teams solo with it.

    I'll never miss an opportunity to jab fengrush, that I "quit" overrated pug...

    Doesn't change the fact the skill is stupid and needs nerfing.

    Don't disagree with that, my point is Goliath is not very useful in BGs unless teams don't scatter / Los / be good

    Edit: I'm at work lol -. Goliath Bash is OP in Cyrodiil, where you have tons of enemies, chokepoints, keeps etc. You can build ult/ have teammates.

    In BGs, Goliath again is good but it's effectiveness is completely reduced by killing opponents (they respawn and wait out your ult) they scatter (can only chase 1)

    Yes you will get a/some kills, but that's per transformation. How many per BG you get?

    The earlier video showed, what, 2 transformations in the match, even if you kill everyone in the BG, you'll still pull in lower numbers than Meta builds
    Edited by Waffennacht on June 17, 2019 2:04PM
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • cheemers
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    cheemers wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    You don't need to build for it.

    Take any heavy 7th/fury/bloodpsawn build and you have 20k bash tooltip (counting S&B passive).

    um no
    my bash ttp is 9k
    people are hacking to get those tooltip

    I hit players at most for 3k in pvp

    https://imgur.com/a/1dL0Sty

    This is using Mechanical Acuity/Vicious Death with infused bash glyphs/Balorgh.

    No undaunted on this character yet and all most of the gear is purple, so pretty sure it can go higher with those mentioned above sets :P

    Still waiting to see the pic of a BG Goliath doing... Really anything tbh

    https://youtu.be/49tNG95uBSE

    @cheemers I should have said death match I suppose, spending 6 min to kill the one 810 player and then grabbing the ball (which makes people come to you) and then (dunno how many kills if any cuz not death match)

    If anything it shows how weak Goliath is in BGs

    This is my 2nd BG with this class having just hit 50, don't have fighters guild undaunted or anything and it still feels ridiculous once you transform. In objective games the enemy players have no option to contest while you're in bash form. In TDM I think Pestilent Colossus might be better, but in objective games or when coordinated with teammates Goliath is op.
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  • UndeniablyAVG
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    They should just remove the passive that increases bash damage from the SnB skill line. People complain that SnB does too much damage in PVP anyway as you can weave in a bash with every global cooldown. It would also half the damage on this Goliath Bash.

    Why does a PVE tank need to deal extra damage with their bash? It all just seems a bit unnecessary to me.

    Happy to be proven wrong if anyone can tell me why the passive is necessary?
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    PSN - N_O_B_L_E-

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqUlYStV91gCyNgVjSjapbw
  • leepalmer95
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    They should just remove the passive that increases bash damage from the SnB skill line. People complain that SnB does too much damage in PVP anyway as you can weave in a bash with every global cooldown. It would also half the damage on this Goliath Bash.

    Why does a PVE tank need to deal extra damage with their bash? It all just seems a bit unnecessary to me.

    Happy to be proven wrong if anyone can tell me why the passive is necessary?

    Leave the s&b passive alone.

    What is with this logic.

    Pre necro, no one complains about it.

    Post necro gets OP ult, everyone asking to nerf s&b passives.


    It's extra dmg and bash cost reduction just leave it. Just unlink it from the necro ult.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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