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[VID] Stamblade PvP Build - Elsweyr - w/ PvP clips of performance

Thogard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulUY1Kiyk64

Stamblade has never been stronger and never been more relevant.

I included 1vX, 2vX (smol scale), Dueling (not a dueling build), and BG clips in the build video to give you context on how it plays.

I don't have undaunted on this character. I don't post weapon dmg or "max resists" because I play ESO, not ESO build editor. If you're on PC NA and would like to fight to see how it does, i'm always down.

long story short:

Helm / shoulders: pirate skelly / medium / impen
Chest / Legs: 7th legion / heavy / impen
gloves / waist / boots: Spriggans / medium / impen
Ammy: 7th legion, weapon dmg, protective
Ring 1: 7th legion, infused, feat cost reduction
Ring 2: 7th legion, infused, weapon dmg

Frontbar: Spriggans 2h Greatsword. Nirnhoned. Double dot poison
Backbar: Master's Bow. Infused. Weapon dmg glyph.

Frontbar:
Ambush - Dizzy Swing - Relentless - Rally - Killer's Blade ULT: Incap

Backbar:
Piercing Mark - Poison Injection - Shuffle - Vigor - Dark Cloak ULT: Undo

Race: Orc. Nothing else is close. I tested redguard and khajiit also.
Food: Artaeum
Mundus: Serpent
Preferred Potion: Stam, Health, Lingering health

Don't run dizzy swing in a duel and expect to beat a similarly skilled player in a real duel build.
PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • rabidmyers
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    first
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  • Thogard
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    first

    I mean... technically, I was first.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Stigant
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    7th + Spriggan is a great setup on NB. I have heavy build with s&b/2h for BGs and medium one with 2h/bow for nonCP cyrodiil, very happy about both. Usin D-Swing never crossed my mind thought, will have to try out.
  • thedude33
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    Nice. I bumped into you last week. Very good player.

    I use the heal instead of cloak for my tanky healing magblade. Don't know if I could pull it off on a glassier stamblade.
    1v1 Win/Loss Record in PvP.
    1 Wins - 392 Losses (guy was AFK)

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    Incap, Dizzying into bow proc is pretty much rip if not countered.
  • grannas211
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    you prefer a greatsword over a maul? I didnt watch the video so I apologize if you touch on that in there.
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    interesting build - i'd never be able to play it.
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    mursie wrote: »
    interesting build - i'd never be able to play it.

    I don’t have a vBRP bow, but if I did I’d try running draining shot there in place of poison injection (still infused wep dmg), dropping dizzy and adding surprise attack. That’d make it better at dueling, tankier in BGs because no dizzy channel to be exposed during, but less bursty.

    I’d be amazed if you’ve never run a combo of BS / 7th / spriggans (what I use in no cp). It was actually the first real PvP build I ever put on my Stam DK. A classic.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


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    grannas211 wrote: »
    you prefer a greatsword over a maul? I didnt watch the video so I apologize if you touch on that in there.


    Yes. With spriggans and major fracture and the CP pen tree already in place, the advantages of a maul aren’t as pronounced since the % reduction occurs after the above 3 are subtracted. If the order of operations was changed, I’d switch to maul in a heartbeat.

    One of the ways I’m able to get such big dmg #s is by stacking so many multipliers. Greatsword dmg increase is just another one of them that multiplies with minor vuln 8% and incap 20%
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • mursie
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    Thogard wrote: »
    I’d be amazed if you’ve never run a combo of BS / 7th / spriggans (what I use in no cp). It was actually the first real PvP build I ever put on my Stam DK. A classic.

    I couldn't sustain that build in non-cp.
    twitch.tv/mursieftw
    twitter: @mursieftw
  • Metemsycosis
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    What is this build's weakness ?
    Terethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
    A Dark-Adapted Eye, Imperial Necromancer

    sanguinare vampiris

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  • Aliyavana
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    What is this build's weakness ?

    Lag
  • mursie
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    What is this build's weakness ?

    I think bash necro chops it up pretty good
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    mursie wrote: »
    What is this build's weakness ?

    I think bash necro chops it up pretty good

    fossilize is the biggest weakness. a mag DK that holds a fossilize until the dizzy is about to land can force a one for three global cooldown trade - the fossilize for the dizzy (already cast but not yet hit), the break free, and then the root removal.

    bash necro is a meme build, could be countered by cloak pots on this build. which of course i wouldn't run.. but still ;)
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Metemsycosis
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    Fossilize isn't all they hang onto. Having difficulty sealing the deal against those that hold onto their leaps. Big resource return big shield big stun.
    Terethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
    A Dark-Adapted Eye, Imperial Necromancer

    sanguinare vampiris

    https://m.twitch.tv/amcrenshaw/profile
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    Fossilize isn't all they hang onto. Having difficulty sealing the deal against those that hold onto their leaps. Big resource return big shield big stun.

    True but leap usually isn’t fast enough to make me waste the dizzy gcd / cost. Leap is just a 1 for 1 gcd exchange, but they’ll probably need it for the execute once I get all Rollie pollie after they wear me down by starving me for cooldowns.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Metemsycosis
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    The only thing I'm not sold on about this build is dizzying.
    Terethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
    A Dark-Adapted Eye, Imperial Necromancer

    sanguinare vampiris

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    The only thing I'm not sold on about this build is dizzying.

    Which is fair because that’s its biggest weakness.

    But if I slot SA instead and use a heavy attack on an off balanced target, that’s just as counterable as a dizzy swing. Other options would be using fear, which would need tripots or race change or mag sustain (in essence lowering dmg) or running draining shot and vBRP bow in place of poison injection and master bow. That too seems like it would be a dmg decrease.

    First thing I tried on stamblade was heavy armor SnB/2h with fury/7th/BS with reverb on snb bar. Too many stale mates, not enough dmg. So I dropped bloodspawn and messed around with various monster sets to boost dmg. Still too tanky and too little dmg.

    The great thing about stamblade now is that you can survive that exposed period when you’re winding up the dizzy and can’t block. You can afford to miss two dizzies and not worry about imploding in the process if the dizzy doesn’t land or if another enemy adds onto the fight. That’s whats changed for stamblade IMO - getting caught mid dizzy channel in a medium armor dmg build just isn’t the death sentence that it was last patch.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Ramber
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    Thogard wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulUY1Kiyk64

    Stamblade has never been stronger and never been more relevant.

    I included 1vX, 2vX (smol scale), Dueling (not a dueling build), and BG clips in the build video to give you context on how it plays.

    I don't have undaunted on this character. I don't post weapon dmg or "max resists" because I play ESO, not ESO build editor. If you're on PC NA and would like to fight to see how it does, i'm always down.

    long story short:

    Helm / shoulders: pirate skelly / medium / impen
    Chest / Legs: 7th legion / heavy / impen
    gloves / waist / boots: Spriggans / medium / impen
    Ammy: 7th legion, weapon dmg, protective
    Ring 1: 7th legion, infused, feat cost reduction
    Ring 2: 7th legion, infused, weapon dmg

    Frontbar: Spriggans 2h Greatsword. Nirnhoned. Double dot poison
    Backbar: Master's Bow. Infused. Weapon dmg glyph.

    Frontbar:
    Ambush - Dizzy Swing - Relentless - Rally - Killer's Blade ULT: Incap

    Backbar:
    Piercing Mark - Poison Injection - Shuffle - Vigor - Dark Cloak ULT: Undo

    Race: Orc. Nothing else is close. I tested redguard and khajiit also.
    Food: Artaeum
    Mundus: Serpent
    Preferred Potion: Stam, Health, Lingering health

    Don't run dizzy swing in a duel and expect to beat a similarly skilled player in a real duel build.

    Its funny, when i play PvP the other 3 guys actually attack me and not just stand around watching lol!!!
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    Ramber wrote: »
    Thogard wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulUY1Kiyk64

    Stamblade has never been stronger and never been more relevant.

    I included 1vX, 2vX (smol scale), Dueling (not a dueling build), and BG clips in the build video to give you context on how it plays.

    I don't have undaunted on this character. I don't post weapon dmg or "max resists" because I play ESO, not ESO build editor. If you're on PC NA and would like to fight to see how it does, i'm always down.

    long story short:

    Helm / shoulders: pirate skelly / medium / impen
    Chest / Legs: 7th legion / heavy / impen
    gloves / waist / boots: Spriggans / medium / impen
    Ammy: 7th legion, weapon dmg, protective
    Ring 1: 7th legion, infused, feat cost reduction
    Ring 2: 7th legion, infused, weapon dmg

    Frontbar: Spriggans 2h Greatsword. Nirnhoned. Double dot poison
    Backbar: Master's Bow. Infused. Weapon dmg glyph.

    Frontbar:
    Ambush - Dizzy Swing - Relentless - Rally - Killer's Blade ULT: Incap

    Backbar:
    Piercing Mark - Poison Injection - Shuffle - Vigor - Dark Cloak ULT: Undo

    Race: Orc. Nothing else is close. I tested redguard and khajiit also.
    Food: Artaeum
    Mundus: Serpent
    Preferred Potion: Stam, Health, Lingering health

    Don't run dizzy swing in a duel and expect to beat a similarly skilled player in a real duel build.

    Its funny, when i play PvP the other 3 guys actually attack me and not just stand around watching lol!!!

    Might i suggest learning how to circle strafe , walk through, and LoS?

    But yeah that’s kinda the point of the vid - i shouldn’t be able to take that much dmg from multiple opponents, but this patch has made tanking easy. You can now build for almost full dmg and still mitigate damage just fine. If you’re on PC NA and want to have a duel so you can test out the tankiness for yourself I’m totally down. I should be on in about 2 hours.
    Edited by Thogard on June 7, 2019 10:53PM
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


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    Stam health lingering pots probably didn’t need to get introduced. Weeeee bit overloaded
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Stam health lingering pots probably didn’t need to get introduced. Weeeee bit overloaded

    Still Not as strong as the hold speed + lingering health with both having the 100% uptime :(

    God I miss those. The Stam speed immovs were so great too.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


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    Good work, thanks.
  • Insco851
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    Thogard wrote: »
    Insco851 wrote: »
    Stam health lingering pots probably didn’t need to get introduced. Weeeee bit overloaded

    Still Not as strong as the hold speed + lingering health with both having the 100% uptime :(

    God I miss those. The Stam speed immovs were so great too.

    Maybe but main regen+lingering is a no brainer. Before you had to add into a bit of extra recovery to run lingering full time.

    They are expensive af at least
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    Insco851 wrote: »
    Thogard wrote: »
    Insco851 wrote: »
    Stam health lingering pots probably didn’t need to get introduced. Weeeee bit overloaded

    Still Not as strong as the hold speed + lingering health with both having the 100% uptime :(

    God I miss those. The Stam speed immovs were so great too.

    Maybe but main regen+lingering is a no brainer. Before you had to add into a bit of extra recovery to run lingering full time.

    They are expensive af at least

    Yup.

    I’d kill for stam, wep crit, lingering. That’s the holy grail for this build.
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Yiko
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    Thogard wrote: »
    grannas211 wrote: »
    you prefer a greatsword over a maul? I didnt watch the video so I apologize if you touch on that in there.


    Yes. With spriggans and major fracture and the CP pen tree already in place, the advantages of a maul aren’t as pronounced since the % reduction occurs after the above 3 are subtracted. If the order of operations was changed, I’d switch to maul in a heartbeat.

    One of the ways I’m able to get such big dmg #s is by stacking so many multipliers. Greatsword dmg increase is just another one of them that multiplies with minor vuln 8% and incap 20%

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/422268/a-comprehensive-guide-on-damage-dealing-in-elder-scrolls-online/p1

    I've always thought penetration application goes:
    Base Resist -> Resist Debuffs -> % Penetration -> Self Flat Penetration
    Self Flat Penetration would include things like Spriggan's, CP, Lover Mundus, and Wood Elf racial.
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    Can’t wait to face stomp the next nooby blade trying to copy your build.
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    Can’t wait to face stomp the next nooby blade trying to copy your build.

    Just remember that 4 d swings in a row means they lost a big chunk of weapon dmg or they dropped their armor buffs or you haven’t CCd them
    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Dunning_Kruger
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    Your maul math is wrong.
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