So I rolled a Magsorc ...

THEDKEXPERIENCE

While everyone else was rolling new necromancers, I figured now would be as good a time as any to level an alt as well. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years, so despite me having (now) 9 characters, most of them were still essentially untouched level 3s.

So I decided that before I leveled my necromancer I should probably finish power leveling the Magsorc I started like 2 years back that had been sitting at level 37.

Here is what I learned as I got to level 44 by killing wasps and deckhands last night.

Nerf Magsorc.

No ... I kid, I kid. It’s fine but wow, you guys have it easy AF. The Magsorc meta rotation is ridiculously intuitive and easy to pull off. I knew what it would be from years of being bursted by a purple cloud as I’m rooted and getting smashed with a crystal at the same time. From the other side it looks like skill ... from the Magsorc side it’s like the least skill based thing I’ve ever done in this game.

Magsorc is just easier.

And while normally the reaction should probably be “just wait till you PVP” I had 300,000+ AP on the character from 2 years ago. Levels 10 to 37 where actually done in Cyrodiil.

In a nutshell I think my Magsorc - who has like 50 skill points total might wipe the floor with my Magplar that has 300 something. I feel like I just decided to take remedial math after a semester of advanced trigonometry.

#balance

Chadak

How about instead we make the other classes not be unintuitive trashbags to play?

Riding a well designed bicycle: intuitive, feels natural even though it isn't, is enjoyable to do for long periods of time.

Riding a poorly designed bicycle made by idiots: constant PITA, feels like work just to go in a straight line, is 'challenging' and more difficult only because it is mediocre and slapped together badly.

I personally find templar to be a terribly designed class that's not at all comfortable or intuitive to play.

Higher skill ceiling? Sure. So is trying to run while wearing your shoes on the wrong feet and pants that are eight sizes too large.

Doesn't make it fun.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Chadak wrote: »

How about instead we make the other classes not be unintuitive trashbags to play?

Agreed. This is definitely more of a why did you make Magplar so difficult and unwieldy thread than the opposite. Magsorc seemed to just be free-flowingly easy to use.

My Magplar is basically an amalgamation of guild skills with a heal and an execute. I could probably play Magsorc with just class skills. It’s bizarre.

Vietfox

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years

Your username makes more sense now.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Vietfox wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years

Your username makes more sense now.

My real life initials are DK. My XBox Live name has been THEDKEXPERIENCE for about a decade. Haha.

It’s purely a coincidence. I get the same thing on DraftKings forums.

LadyNalcarya

As a templar main, I don't think that any classes should be nerfed because they are too easy to play or something. Instead, they should make other classes more viable and less clunky.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

As a templar main, I don't think that any classes should be nerfed because they are too easy to play or something. Instead, they should make other classes more viable and less clunky.

Agreed 100%

Anything I said about nerfing Magsorc’s was just for laughs. All of the classes should flow like that.

Vietfox

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Vietfox wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years

Your username makes more sense now.

My real life initials are DK. My XBox Live name has been THEDKEXPERIENCE for about a decade. Haha.

It’s purely a coincidence. I get the same thing on DraftKings forums.

Lol ok 😂
Back to the topic: yeah, magsorc is easy af. When i switch to magsorc it feels like changing from gear to automatic.

shimm

I play on PC and Xbox, but 95% of my time is in cyrodiil on Xbox and... magsorcs are just dominant right now. I’ve completely redone my nightblade build because I couldn’t kill them and have consistently had death recaps full of sorc skills. On that note, I’m excited to get back in with my sorc! Can’t beat em join em...

Blinkin8r

My magsorc's name is training wheels for this very reason. They're for casuals imo.

Sergykid

had this too, i tried all classes both stam and mag. Magsorc is the easiest and the strongest. Why don't we all play magsorc then? Cuz we like a challenge maybe, or because we like more the niche playstyle. Other classes are also good, but in fewer situations. A magsorc may not be able to beat a magblade, unless slots Boundless Storm or use specific counters that makes the user sacrifice something else.

Deathlord92

Mag sorc broken af and deserves the nerf hammer just like stamblade because this post is right mag sorc easy mode.

Neoauspex

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

My Magplar is basically an amalgamation of guild skills with a heal and an execute. I could probably play Magsorc with just class skills. It’s bizarre.

This. All those class skills buff you too because of well designed, useful sorc passives. Devs were out of ideas when they got to templar passives, they were like "whatever, just use the passives to buff the active skills that nobody uses because they aren't very good skills."

WoppaBoem

Neoauspex wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

My Magplar is basically an amalgamation of guild skills with a heal and an execute. I could probably play Magsorc with just class skills. It’s bizarre.

This. All those class skills buff you too because of well designed, useful sorc passives. Devs were out of ideas when they got to templar passives, they were like "whatever, just use the passives to buff the active skills that nobody uses because they aren't very good skills."

The game was design as Temp healer - DK tank - Stam NB - Mag Sorc. So yes these original setups are still very strong today... However the game offers a lot of flavors and that is nice. If we al wanted it easy we would all play magsorc but we don't

Oreyn_Bearclaw

A Magplar calling Magsorc easymode is a little bit of a Pot and Kettle situation. Haha

Knightpanther

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

While everyone else was rolling new necromancers, I figured now would be as good time a time as any to level an alt as well. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years, so despite me having (now) 9 characters, most of them were still essentially untouched level 3s.

So I decided that before I leveled my necromancer I should probably finish power leveling the Magsorc I started like 2 years back that had been sitting at level 37.

Here is what I learned as I got to level 44 by killing wasps and deckhands last night.

Nerf Magsorc.

No ... I kid, I kid. It’s fine but wow, you guys have it easy AF. The Magsorc meta rotation is ridiculously intuitive and easy to pull off. I knew what it would be from years of being bursted by a purple cloud as I’m rooted and getting smashed with a crystal at the same time. From the other side it looks like skill ... from the Magsorc side it’s like the least skill based thing I’ve ever done in this game.

Magsorc is just easier.

And while normally the reaction should probably be “just wait till you PVP” I had 300,000+ AP on the character from 2 years ago. Levels 10 to 37 where actually done in Cyrodiil.

In a nutshell I think my Magsorc - who has like 50 skill points total might wipe the floor with my Magplar that has 300 something. I feel like I just decided to take remedial math after a semester of advanced trigonometry.

#balance

Wow can I have some of what you're smoking?
If this is the case I should be able to wipe everyone in Cyrodiil just mashing three buttons whilst drinking tea and a cake, or even better I will hand the keyboard to my 5 year old.
Ah but wait, theres other classes too played by skilled players!

Oh wait now I get it, sorry didn't realise that Troll was a playable race

Be safe

TequilaFire

Harry Potter has spoken. lol
Just a poke for another thread.

SleepyTroll

Chadak wrote: »

How about instead we make the other classes not be unintuitive trashbags to play?

Riding a well designed bicycle: intuitive, feels natural even though it isn't, is enjoyable to do for long periods of time.

Riding a poorly designed bicycle made by idiots: constant PITA, feels like work just to go in a straight line, is 'challenging' and more difficult only because it is mediocre and slapped together badly.

I personally find templar to be a terribly designed class that's not at all comfortable or intuitive to play.

Higher skill ceiling? Sure. So is trying to run while wearing your shoes on the wrong feet and pants that are eight sizes too large.

Doesn't make it fun.

Templar you used be fun as hell, blinding flashes and what not.

GeorgeBlack

Not gonna happen. Most eso players main sorc

Meanwhile I smh at all the "dont nerf sorc, buff other classes"
Cough wings cough

Emmagoldman

I think we have all been aroundong enough to see a million x class is easy mode. Only class that has a high skill ceiling is magblade. Havent played enough necro to comment. Otherwise its all cheese

Malamar1229

Made the same conclusion when I rolled my first stamblade

TequilaFire

lol Here they come!

BRogueNZ

Knightpanther wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

While everyone else was rolling new necromancers, I figured now would be as good time a time as any to level an alt as well. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years, so despite me having (now) 9 characters, most of them were still essentially untouched level 3s.

So I decided that before I leveled my necromancer I should probably finish power leveling the Magsorc I started like 2 years back that had been sitting at level 37.

Here is what I learned as I got to level 44 by killing wasps and deckhands last night.

Nerf Magsorc.

No ... I kid, I kid. It’s fine but wow, you guys have it easy AF. The Magsorc meta rotation is ridiculously intuitive and easy to pull off. I knew what it would be from years of being bursted by a purple cloud as I’m rooted and getting smashed with a crystal at the same time. From the other side it looks like skill ... from the Magsorc side it’s like the least skill based thing I’ve ever done in this game.

Magsorc is just easier.

And while normally the reaction should probably be “just wait till you PVP” I had 300,000+ AP on the character from 2 years ago. Levels 10 to 37 where actually done in Cyrodiil.

In a nutshell I think my Magsorc - who has like 50 skill points total might wipe the floor with my Magplar that has 300 something. I feel like I just decided to take remedial math after a semester of advanced trigonometry.

#balance

Wow can I have some of what you're smoking?
If this is the case I should be able to wipe everyone in Cyrodiil just mashing three buttons whilst drinking tea and a cake, or even better I will hand the keyboard to my 5 year old.
Ah but wait, theres other classes too played by skilled players!

Oh wait now I get it, sorry didn't realise that Troll was a playable race

Be safe

There's always people who are good at a class and do kill a lot of players.

You could probably teach a five year old to play either magplar or sorc, however kids, crumbs and tea are not recommended around keyboards. Mine are a few years older that and understand the concept of a 'rotation'.

The dickiest thing about sorcs is they have a high kill ratio because their no brainer, fire and forget crap steals everybodies KB's and like nb's, they just bugger off under pressure.. yawn and the fact that a pet of theirs can be 45 degrees from my los, have the sorc tab'd and it hits the freakin pet.. i mean ffs lol

Cortimi

inb4 -

Magsorc Defense Force slams the thread with how "poorly" they have been treated by not being being able to spam %100 shield in PvP and how the last batch of tweaks was somehow a "major nerf" while Wings was a "buff".

SoLooney

Mag sorc is very beginner friendly and doesnt take much skill to be fairly decent at in pve and pvp, ever since they got buffed, I almost exclusively see new sorcs everywhere, and yes, their annoying pets

Nerf mag sorcs, again plz, let their popularity go down again

deepseamk20b14_ESO

Did the same thing a long time ago. I found sorc fun but also boring because it was really easy. I like my DK and NB. Next I would like to make a warden.

Knightpanther

BRogueNZ wrote: »

Knightpanther wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

While everyone else was rolling new necromancers, I figured now would be as good time a time as any to level an alt as well. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years, so despite me having (now) 9 characters, most of them were still essentially untouched level 3s.

So I decided that before I leveled my necromancer I should probably finish power leveling the Magsorc I started like 2 years back that had been sitting at level 37.

Here is what I learned as I got to level 44 by killing wasps and deckhands last night.

Nerf Magsorc.

No ... I kid, I kid. It’s fine but wow, you guys have it easy AF. The Magsorc meta rotation is ridiculously intuitive and easy to pull off. I knew what it would be from years of being bursted by a purple cloud as I’m rooted and getting smashed with a crystal at the same time. From the other side it looks like skill ... from the Magsorc side it’s like the least skill based thing I’ve ever done in this game.

Magsorc is just easier.

And while normally the reaction should probably be “just wait till you PVP” I had 300,000+ AP on the character from 2 years ago. Levels 10 to 37 where actually done in Cyrodiil.

In a nutshell I think my Magsorc - who has like 50 skill points total might wipe the floor with my Magplar that has 300 something. I feel like I just decided to take remedial math after a semester of advanced trigonometry.

#balance

Wow can I have some of what you're smoking?
If this is the case I should be able to wipe everyone in Cyrodiil just mashing three buttons whilst drinking tea and a cake, or even better I will hand the keyboard to my 5 year old.
Ah but wait, theres other classes too played by skilled players!

Oh wait now I get it, sorry didn't realise that Troll was a playable race

Be safe

There's always people who are good at a class and do kill a lot of players.

You could probably teach a five year old to play either magplar or sorc, however kids, crumbs and tea are not recommended around keyboards. Mine are a few years older that and understand the concept of a 'rotation'.

The dickiest thing about sorcs is they have a high kill ratio because their no brainer, fire and forget crap steals everybodies KB's and like nb's, they just bugger off under pressure.. yawn and the fact that a pet of theirs can be 45 degrees from my los, have the sorc tab'd and it hits the freakin pet.. i mean ffs lol

Im with you on the kids and keyboard crap but im not with you on the fire and forget stuff?

Be safe

Ayastigi

This is crazy. Mag sorc is by far the most difficult class to excel on. It takes jedi level reflexes, other worldly dexterity, and superhuman cognition to execute the rotation and situational awareness required to do well on Magsorc. If you had success initially it is because you were pug stopping and fighting under leveled and under geared players. Mag sorc has been the most ill-equipped class since launch and the forum still tries to get them "balanced" because somebody that has dedicated countless hours honing their skills displays the ability to occasionally 1vx on said mag sorc. You need to reconsider your position and actually learn the intricacies of the class before making such rash posts. The people who are good at mag sorc are good because they are skilled in the inner workings of eso on a level that most could never hope to grasp. They are the level of player we aspire to be, the golden standard if you will. A good mag sorc is more than a good player they are a good man/woman. a good human, a defender, a protector, a philanthropist, a conversationalist...we don't deserve mag sorcs.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Knightpanther wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

While everyone else was rolling new necromancers, I figured now would be as good time a time as any to level an alt as well. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years, so despite me having (now) 9 characters, most of them were still essentially untouched level 3s.

So I decided that before I leveled my necromancer I should probably finish power leveling the Magsorc I started like 2 years back that had been sitting at level 37.

Here is what I learned as I got to level 44 by killing wasps and deckhands last night.

Nerf Magsorc.

No ... I kid, I kid. It’s fine but wow, you guys have it easy AF. The Magsorc meta rotation is ridiculously intuitive and easy to pull off. I knew what it would be from years of being bursted by a purple cloud as I’m rooted and getting smashed with a crystal at the same time. From the other side it looks like skill ... from the Magsorc side it’s like the least skill based thing I’ve ever done in this game.

Magsorc is just easier.

And while normally the reaction should probably be “just wait till you PVP” I had 300,000+ AP on the character from 2 years ago. Levels 10 to 37 where actually done in Cyrodiil.

In a nutshell I think my Magsorc - who has like 50 skill points total might wipe the floor with my Magplar that has 300 something. I feel like I just decided to take remedial math after a semester of advanced trigonometry.

#balance

Wow can I have some of what you're smoking?
If this is the case I should be able to wipe everyone in Cyrodiil just mashing three buttons whilst drinking tea and a cake, or even better I will hand the keyboard to my 5 year old.
Ah but wait, theres other classes too played by skilled players!

Oh wait now I get it, sorry didn't realise that Troll was a playable race

Be safe

Nice leap there. At what point did “easier to play” become “I can wipe everyone with 3 buttons”? You’ll still need a modicum of skill, but it’s clearly easier to achieve this level as a Magsorc than what appears to be any other class combo.

Then again, maybe you stink at ESO.

Kingslayer513

Emmagoldman wrote: »

I think we have all been aroundong enough to see a million x class is easy mode. Only class that has a high skill ceiling is magblade. Havent played enough necro to comment. Otherwise its all cheese

In what content is magblade difficult to use? I've always found it to be one of the easiest classes.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Knightpanther wrote: »

BRogueNZ wrote: »

Knightpanther wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

While everyone else was rolling new necromancers, I figured now would be as good time a time as any to level an alt as well. Anyone who knows me knows that I’ve played a Magplar about 99% of the last few years, so despite me having (now) 9 characters, most of them were still essentially untouched level 3s.

So I decided that before I leveled my necromancer I should probably finish power leveling the Magsorc I started like 2 years back that had been sitting at level 37.

Here is what I learned as I got to level 44 by killing wasps and deckhands last night.

Nerf Magsorc.

No ... I kid, I kid. It’s fine but wow, you guys have it easy AF. The Magsorc meta rotation is ridiculously intuitive and easy to pull off. I knew what it would be from years of being bursted by a purple cloud as I’m rooted and getting smashed with a crystal at the same time. From the other side it looks like skill ... from the Magsorc side it’s like the least skill based thing I’ve ever done in this game.

Magsorc is just easier.

And while normally the reaction should probably be “just wait till you PVP” I had 300,000+ AP on the character from 2 years ago. Levels 10 to 37 where actually done in Cyrodiil.

In a nutshell I think my Magsorc - who has like 50 skill points total might wipe the floor with my Magplar that has 300 something. I feel like I just decided to take remedial math after a semester of advanced trigonometry.

#balance

Wow can I have some of what you're smoking?
If this is the case I should be able to wipe everyone in Cyrodiil just mashing three buttons whilst drinking tea and a cake, or even better I will hand the keyboard to my 5 year old.
Ah but wait, theres other classes too played by skilled players!

Oh wait now I get it, sorry didn't realise that Troll was a playable race

Be safe

There's always people who are good at a class and do kill a lot of players.

You could probably teach a five year old to play either magplar or sorc, however kids, crumbs and tea are not recommended around keyboards. Mine are a few years older that and understand the concept of a 'rotation'.

The dickiest thing about sorcs is they have a high kill ratio because their no brainer, fire and forget crap steals everybodies KB's and like nb's, they just bugger off under pressure.. yawn and the fact that a pet of theirs can be 45 degrees from my los, have the sorc tab'd and it hits the freakin pet.. i mean ffs lol

Im with you on the kids and keyboard crap but im not with you on the fire and forget stuff?

Be safe

The whole class is fire and forget. Curse, root, frag and then they all explode in the middle of a light attack you added in. Sure, many people can survive it, I have hundreds of times, but go ahead and tell me the super awesome opening skill that Magplars have? Oh wait ... there isn’t one. Let along 3 that all stack damage and smash someone for like 40k at once.

But at least we have radiant ... which I’m now discovering might not actually be as good as Mage’s Wrath.

But thanks for telling me to be safe. Was that the next part of the Geneva Convention after the section that says you can say whatever you want as long as you say “with all due respect?”