Dear Zenimax

Nimrhys

I was going to do it until I found out I needed a twitch account, which I don't have nor want, so I am simply opting out. I then saw that the other platforms get it without watching the stream, which was kind of annoying. So, it would be nice if they changed it.

YaYaPineapple

How are you people missing the fact that the Twitch stream is LIVE and the event they are streaming from is physically taking place in North America?

LIVE.

That means they can't just do it again for whatever time is most convenient for you. Guess what? Its not convenient for a lot of people who live IN NA either.

Are you really going to complain every time there is an event where something is given away AT that event and you can't get it because you weren't able to attend? I hate to break it to you, but there have already been tons of things given away all over the world at events you also did not attend.

Besides, you may already have the mount they are giving away, as it has been made available more than once already.

Eliahnus

For me, it's in the middle of the night !??

Linaleah

while I do think that they should just normalize it for all platforms and make it a "kill a monster" requirement for everyone, if you DO decide to open a stream and then leave it on, make sure to select 160 resolution. will save you on bandwidth

geonsocal

playing on my lowly ps4 I've always felt a tinge of envy towards my fellow PC gamers...

I feel a little better today though learning that I am part of the eso US master race...

go pacific standard time - we rule!!!

VDoom1

One thing I'm sure some reacted to "kill a monster - consoles only."

Sooo Europe and everything east has to have a very late night or super early morning while console can just kill anything at a specific time?

I know it's impossible to pick a time which works for everyone, but just an hour earlier would make things better.

Thogard

You’re doing yourself a favor by not seeing it. The crown crates are garbage. I’ve never not deconned a reward from them.

Elwendryll

Androconium wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

I live in Antarctica, so this is at a non-optimal time for me, too.

Is this your house?

Is this doxing?

Hiruda

Muanthuun wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Muanthuun wrote: »

I live in Japan. 830 PM EST on June 6th is 930am Monday in Japan. I am at work and unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream. So what are your non NA customers to do? We are the same customers. Many of us pay for ESO+ such as myself. Yet, due to how you set this giveaway, it's really only North Americans who will have the chance to watch and redeem the mount. At the least, this opportunity should be provided 3 times to account for the various parts of the world.

Do the same thing everyone else will do, open up a tab on your computer before hand. I'm NA, but I'll be participating in chats on Mixer. Twitch window will be open and quiet.

So, I should just run my electric bill up to "watch" a stream? That is Zenimax's intention?

Like if leaving your computer on for just a stream is going to give you a insane electricity bill
hell damn, my computer is on 24/7 and my electricity bill is the same as if i didnt leave it on

xMovingTarget

Well, zos services na and eu. Even though those time frames for eso live arnt optimal for eu either. So you have to live with it.
Also, no matter the time. It will always be bad for someone in the world.

Uryel

Cadbury wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Or they could just make this available for PC players as well, rather than forcing PC to watch streams.

If you are on console, you can earn your rewards by logging into the game on Sunday, June 9, between 8:00PM BST and 4:00AM BST (Monday, June 10) and killing a single monster. You will receive your rewards by June 19.

I don't know if I'd use the term "force". I mean, am I "forced" to run PvP for Vigor/Caltrops? Am I "forced" to run Vet dungeons?

I get what you're saying, though.

Nope, you can just do without.

Same for the twitch thing.

But I like your subtle way to imply it. I would have been way more blunt and unpleasant, I think.

Uryel

bmnoble wrote: »

Or you know they could just include a time limited code like SWTOR does with free mount/pet give away's. That way all you need to do is look up the free code, redeem it on your account page, the following day and not even bother watching the whole stream unless you want to.

Most people won't watch it anyway, they'll just leave it open and close the muted tab when it's done. Just a waste of data stream.

Muanthuun

YaYaPineapple wrote: »

How are you people missing the fact that the Twitch stream is LIVE and the event they are streaming from is physically taking place in North America?

LIVE.

That means they can't just do it again for whatever time is most convenient for you. Guess what? Its not convenient for a lot of people who live IN NA either.

Are you really going to complain every time there is an event where something is given away AT that event and you can't get it because you weren't able to attend? I hate to break it to you, but there have already been tons of things given away all over the world at events you also did not attend.

Besides, you may already have the mount they are giving away, as it has been made available more than once already.

They can air the stream again. It is not difficult nor impossible.

Muanthuun

Hiruda wrote: »

Muanthuun wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Muanthuun wrote: »

I live in Japan. 830 PM EST on June 6th is 930am Monday in Japan. I am at work and unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream. So what are your non NA customers to do? We are the same customers. Many of us pay for ESO+ such as myself. Yet, due to how you set this giveaway, it's really only North Americans who will have the chance to watch and redeem the mount. At the least, this opportunity should be provided 3 times to account for the various parts of the world.

Do the same thing everyone else will do, open up a tab on your computer before hand. I'm NA, but I'll be participating in chats on Mixer. Twitch window will be open and quiet.

So, I should just run my electric bill up to "watch" a stream? That is Zenimax's intention?

Like if leaving your computer on for just a stream is going to give you a insane electricity bill
hell damn, my computer is on 24/7 and my electricity bill is the same as if i didnt leave it on

Yes, here it can be pricey. In summer time rates are inflated, so electricity costs more this time of year, so leaving pc on waiting for a stream to start to "watch" is noticeable.

Edziu

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Muanthuun wrote: »

I live in Japan. 830 PM EST on June 6th is 930am Monday in Japan. I am at work and unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream. So what are your non NA customers to do? We are the same customers. Many of us pay for ESO+ such as myself. Yet, due to how you set this giveaway, it's really only North Americans who will have the chance to watch and redeem the mount. At the least, this opportunity should be provided 3 times to account for the various parts of the world.

Do the same thing everyone else will do, open up a tab on your computer before hand. I'm NA, but I'll be participating in chats on Mixer. Twitch window will be open and quiet.

sorry but what you understand from "unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream"?
you know there are jobs, places where you cant even just open this and leave alone muted to play with not to mention not everyone who can play an game have also access to an device which can be On nonstop for good few hours without giving it break and possibility to charge

this is just pissing on literally everyone who are not in NA or not having self material wealth close to average NA customer...you know, just poorer countries in EU where not everyone is rich enough to have his own vehicle worth of dozens of tousands dollars

Beforehand, as in before OP leaves for work. I did it all the time for ESO Lives and other streams like that that were scheduled while I was at work. JFC I hope ZOS takes out all the free stuff they give, you act like youre owed something just because you live in a different time zone.

sorry but do you still dont understand just word "unable", do you missed what I was writing? not everyone have enough chill/elastic job in which can just enable twich on theirs phone and leave it without problem, not everyone have newest gadgets, phones which can be run for few hours without break and still be charged and not much heated

and sorry about getting on this "free stuff" but if we have to have wached live then it is not that much "free stuff" for us, we need to do activity in order to get this "free stuff" and many of us all what what it is viability to be able to do this as many of us just even cant try to bother with this as not only this is in very bad time for rest of the world besides america but it is also in that bad time in poorer countries where many people dont even have option to have that great electronic stuff like you so they can leave enabled twich on this for few hours without giving its break, charge etc

Uryel

Edziu wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Muanthuun wrote: »

I live in Japan. 830 PM EST on June 6th is 930am Monday in Japan. I am at work and unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream. So what are your non NA customers to do? We are the same customers. Many of us pay for ESO+ such as myself. Yet, due to how you set this giveaway, it's really only North Americans who will have the chance to watch and redeem the mount. At the least, this opportunity should be provided 3 times to account for the various parts of the world.

Do the same thing everyone else will do, open up a tab on your computer before hand. I'm NA, but I'll be participating in chats on Mixer. Twitch window will be open and quiet.

sorry but what you understand from "unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream"?
you know there are jobs, places where you cant even just open this and leave alone muted to play with not to mention not everyone who can play an game have also access to an device which can be On nonstop for good few hours without giving it break and possibility to charge

this is just pissing on literally everyone who are not in NA or not having self material wealth close to average NA customer...you know, just poorer countries in EU where not everyone is rich enough to have his own vehicle worth of dozens of tousands dollars

Beforehand, as in before OP leaves for work. I did it all the time for ESO Lives and other streams like that that were scheduled while I was at work. JFC I hope ZOS takes out all the free stuff they give, you act like youre owed something just because you live in a different time zone.

sorry but do you still dont understand just word "unable", do you missed what I was writing? not everyone have enough chill/elastic job in which can just enable twich on theirs phone and leave it without problem, not everyone have newest gadgets, phones which can be run for few hours without break and still be charged and not much heated

and sorry about getting on this "free stuff" but if we have to have wached live then it is not that much "free stuff" for us, we need to do activity in order to get this "free stuff" and many of us all what what it is viability to be able to do this as many of us just even cant try to bother with this as not only this is in very bad time for rest of the world besides america but it is also in that bad time in poorer countries where many people dont even have option to have that great electronic stuff like you so they can leave enabled twich on this for few hours without giving its break, charge etc

Sorry, but what don't you understand if "you don't need it" ?

Missing out on it won't break your game, prevent further progression or anything important.

You have every right to WANT it, but you don't NEED it. And if you WANT it, you make do with what you can, to get it. If your job isn't chill enough or elastic enough, you set up a useless stream at home. That incurs an electricity bill increase ? Well, that's how you pay for your mount. Probably still cheaper than actually buying it in the crown store anyway.

Yes, it is inconvenient. The whole Twitch thing is incoinvenient from the start. But if you want something entirely optional that is given free of charges outside of the cost required to operate the system that enables you to collect it, you can't really complain all that much.

And I'm saying that as someone who lives in Europe.

Edziu

Uryel wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Muanthuun wrote: »

I live in Japan. 830 PM EST on June 6th is 930am Monday in Japan. I am at work and unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream. So what are your non NA customers to do? We are the same customers. Many of us pay for ESO+ such as myself. Yet, due to how you set this giveaway, it's really only North Americans who will have the chance to watch and redeem the mount. At the least, this opportunity should be provided 3 times to account for the various parts of the world.

Do the same thing everyone else will do, open up a tab on your computer before hand. I'm NA, but I'll be participating in chats on Mixer. Twitch window will be open and quiet.

sorry but what you understand from "unable to log into Twitch and watch a stream"?
you know there are jobs, places where you cant even just open this and leave alone muted to play with not to mention not everyone who can play an game have also access to an device which can be On nonstop for good few hours without giving it break and possibility to charge

this is just pissing on literally everyone who are not in NA or not having self material wealth close to average NA customer...you know, just poorer countries in EU where not everyone is rich enough to have his own vehicle worth of dozens of tousands dollars

Beforehand, as in before OP leaves for work. I did it all the time for ESO Lives and other streams like that that were scheduled while I was at work. JFC I hope ZOS takes out all the free stuff they give, you act like youre owed something just because you live in a different time zone.

sorry but do you still dont understand just word "unable", do you missed what I was writing? not everyone have enough chill/elastic job in which can just enable twich on theirs phone and leave it without problem, not everyone have newest gadgets, phones which can be run for few hours without break and still be charged and not much heated

and sorry about getting on this "free stuff" but if we have to have wached live then it is not that much "free stuff" for us, we need to do activity in order to get this "free stuff" and many of us all what what it is viability to be able to do this as many of us just even cant try to bother with this as not only this is in very bad time for rest of the world besides america but it is also in that bad time in poorer countries where many people dont even have option to have that great electronic stuff like you so they can leave enabled twich on this for few hours without giving its break, charge etc

Sorry, but what don't you understand if "you don't need it" ?

Missing out on it won't break your game, prevent further progression or anything important.

You have every right to WANT it, but you don't NEED it. And if you WANT it, you make do with what you can, to get it. If your job isn't chill enough or elastic enough, you set up a useless stream at home. That incurs an electricity bill increase ? Well, that's how you pay for your mount. Probably still cheaper than actually buying it in the crown store anyway.

Yes, it is inconvenient. The whole Twitch thing is incoinvenient from the start. But if you want something entirely optional that is given free of charges outside of the cost required to operate the system that enables you to collect it, you can't really complain all that much.

And I'm saying that as someone who lives in Europe.

ok, your are righ in all
but even if I dont need it...then why I cant have even chance to get it to make my playing in this game more enjoyable?
at all even if it wont make to much change in my game...still mI would want it and seeing after this people with those rewards which I couldnt touch is another splinter to me while playing this game...because uhh..this is also just human thing with feelings

I in theory this is avaible to everyone, in practise for many it is not availe at all because they are in bad spot to be viable to watch this or even just enable it on

Mancombe_Nosehair

It's always the pc eu players who suffer. It's almost like zos don't want us...

YaYaPineapple

Life isn't always "fair".

Accept that, learn to manage your feelings of envy, and you will live a happier life.

Kuramas9tails

Turelus wrote: »

Or they could just make this available for PC players as well, rather than forcing PC to watch streams.

If you are on console, you can earn your rewards by logging into the game on Sunday, June 9, between 8:00PM BST and 4:00AM BST (Monday, June 10) and killing a single monster. You will receive your rewards by June 19.

PC master race wants the same treatment as console peasants?!

WHAT?!

That never happens!

Edziu

YaYaPineapple wrote: »

Life isn't always "fair".

Accept that, learn to manage your feelings of envy, and you will live a happier life.

LIFE IS NOT, yes ok

but why game also?
the best in it is this as EU players most of the time are suffering in anything while NA players not and also to EU players are comming players from other world places as they was ignored with just megaservers

in ESO if you have watched it for longer time players from different world places have or are still suffering by simply bad ping as how far away they are from megaservers or with it by very different time zones to just play and here we ahve NA players on NA megaserver which have in mostly never experienced that much suffering and/or bad experience with ESO, ESO servers like rest of the playerbase which is not in USA on NA megaserver

so again...while life is life and is not always fair then why we cant have fair game? as ESO and ZOS seems to be very biased for only USA playerbase while ignoring rest of the world for this game like just EU megaserver seems to be just improvised *** just to make an dummy of megaserver for rest of the world to show they want also players from this rest of the world while they dont care about them at all

Arunei

I do think it's kind of lame that PC has to actively watch a stream, while console just has to kill a mob. I get it's because console doesn't have access to the Twitch Drops, but the fact that PC doesn't have the same option just really makes this feel like they're trying to inflate the stream views. You'd think the information and continuation of the cinematic trailer would be enough of a draw to get people to watch.

Muanthuun

Zeni, why can't you provide more options? NA customers are the only ones that matter?