Should we be given Thu’um skill line

RapidUrsa

Seeing as dragons have made a comeback should we be given this as a skill line? I’m not saying everyone should become Dragonborn as that would be lore breaking but learning shouts like the greybeards did in Skyrim? They could be like ultimates?

AzraelKrieg

No.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Well if you want to pass 10 years training for it like ulfric did to learn fusrodah, then yes

Indoril_Nerevar

I think this is a good, good idea.

The question is how far to take it?

A skill line or maybe a choice between Thu'ums, and only having one active at a time, with perhaps a larger cooldown.

AlnilamE

No. Our characters are not Dragonborn.

Indoril_Nerevar

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Well if you want to pass 10 years training for it like ulfric did to learn fusrodah, then yes

As the main character, we are always much more capable and "special" than some Jarl of Windhelm.

Ten years or not, it's a game Im sure its plausible.

CambionDaemon

No, they cannot even balance the current skill lines, what hope would they have with Thu'um. lol

Chaos2088

Would it be epic. Yes!

Would it happen. Doubt it as we are not the dragon born, maybe our mojo about being the vestige mohjy come into play somehow but it’s going to have to be a tight lore friendly loop hole.

Elwendryll

Anyone can learn Thu'um, right? The Dragonborn is different in that he can assimilate the shouts by using dragon souls, while regular jarls of windhelm need to learn it the hard way. That's what I understood from playing skyrim, as there is a whole order of grey beards who are using shouts despite not being Dragonborns.

Sturmfaenger

Thu'um hasn't been a thing in ESO so far, and since its a thing of nord culture that we have not encountered yet in Eastmarch or Rift, it would feel strangely farfetched to introduce it now in Elsweyr of all things, just because there are dragons. If they would introduce it now, it would feel - to me - as money making, to lure some more skyrim fans into the game.

I still have skyrim installed, so whenever I want to yell real loud, I can go there^^

Maotti

No, we're the Vestige, random stranger sacrificed to Molag Bal. Not the Dovahkiin.

Runschei

No

Elsonso

AlnilamE wrote: »

No. Our characters are not Dragonborn.

Greybeards are not Dragonborn, either.

Chadak

I really don't care. If they do it in a way that's fun to play with, sure. If it would just be some mediocre skill line, no thanks.

sionIV

I can already imagine the complaints in Cyrodiil.

"Why can't I Thu’um down the castle gate!?"

Where is my immersion!?

logarifmik

No.

Mettaricana

sionIV wrote: »

I can already imagine the complaints in Cyrodiil.

"Why can't I Thu’um down the castle gate!?"

Where is my immersion!?

Skyrim need 1 soul to level shout
Eso need 150k dragon kills per rank

VaranisArano

It takes years to learn how to Shout. Years.

Ulfric knows 2 shouts, Unrelenting Force and Disarm. Again, it took years.

Now, the Greybeards arent the only group teaching the Thu'um. In fact, Tiber Septim will start the Imperial College of the Voice in 300 years. On the other hand, the Greybeards are far and above the best Voice users, and they want it used for the worship of Kyne, not for killing your enemies willy-nilly.

So it's not impossible for us to learn it, but it is extremely unlikely, and the grind for a Thu'um skill line ought to take longer than researching all traits on all equipment (about a year and a half).

Seriously, people whine about training FG and MG and Psojic Order on multiple characters, and those take a most a day on dedicated grinding.

Ain't no one got literal years to learn to Shout!

Uryel

Tylos001 wrote: »

learning shouts like the greybeards did in Skyrim?

The Greybeards spend YEARS studying ONE word. Shouts are composed of at least 3 words to reach full potency. That would be hard to reflect in the game unless we indeed all become dragonborns.

Or unless we get some Eve Online style skill line : start researching, wait a week / month / half a year before you can actually use it.

ATomiX96

some ppl really think this is skyrim online huh?

Imperial_Voice

I like how you made this a question and not a poll. That way you can safely ignore the fact that nobody wants this.

Michae

No, that's just silly.

Robo_Hobo

I don't think it's impossible because of us not being Dragonborn. Player characters have a tendency to be able to master any skill they set their mind to it within a year of being a novice, learning a couple 1-word Shouts, could still very well be believable if it was limited to just that. I mean we know Psijic time spells and that's almost just as exclusive.

The bigger issue I think is that the only way we could learn any bit of the Thu'um would have to be from the Greybeards, and the Greybeards strictly follow the Way of the Voice, which is a very pacifistic and peaceful mandate. The Dragonborn gets the exception that he/she can use it whenever they feel like it because they got the right to the Thu'um from Akatosh, not Kyne (in their belief), but I can't see the Greybeards teaching an adventurer the Thu'um because it would go against what Jurgen Windcaller wanted, unless that adventurer agreed to forsake their adventuring days and stay up on the mountain for the rest of their life.

The Nords used to use the Thu'um for themselves in wars before but Jurgen stopped all of that, teaching someone who has no inclination of staying peaceful would risk the Thu'um becoming a Weapon of War again, for good or evil. That's not to say a Greybeard or someone who learned from them can't at some point be like "yeah nvm" and leave, like Ulfric did, and still use the Thu'um thereafter, but to be even considered to be taught in the first place would mean the Greybeards would have to trust that that exact situation wouldn't happen - they can make mistakes of judgement, but I think it's pretty clear the Vestige isn't going to stop adventuring anytime soon and the Greybeards would know that.

So for this to work, either there would have to be a splinter group of Greybeards that left High Hrothgar and wants to teach the Thu'um to people again, forsaking Jurgen Windcaller's Way of the Voice (not entirely impossible - Talos tries it a couple hundred years in the future in a School of the Voice in Markarth, never heard anything besides the 1 line and it never was referenced in TES5: Skyrim so it probably didn't last long) or the Greybeards as a whole would have to deem that the Vestige is an exception, for some reason, or that the dire circumstances of whatever the plot is in the Skyrim chapter, deems it a necessity to being able to resolve it, a temporary - but intentional - break in the Way of the Voice.

So not impossible but very unlikely is where I would leave it as.

yooqi

Please no. There is way more stuff that can be added first like weapon lines that won't cause people to have a meltdown about lore.

AhPook_Is_Here

I don't see why not, Sheo has given us so much already, why hold back now?

Starlock

An interesting idea as well as a feasible one, though I do not think it will be done. If the Vestige is inducted into the famed Psijic order I see little reason why something like the Way of the Voice would be closed to them.

There are other skill lines I would much rather see first. A magicka-melee weapon line, alteration/illusion staves weapon lines, polearms weapon line, etc.

Cloudless

Elwendryll

I would be ok if all the skills were ultimates. And like. One word ones.

Akrasjel

Nope

barney2525

Uh..... No

I am always curious as to Why players want "more skill lines" ....

when they still have the same limited number of slots on the action bars

so confused

Starlock

barney2525 wrote: »

Uh..... No

I am always curious as to Why players want "more skill lines" ....

when they still have the same limited number of slots on the action bars

so confused

It's not hard to understand.

You create different characters who are different people who do different things (if you are a role-player like me). Or you just want to try out different "builds" if you are a gamer type to play the game in a new way.