Chicharron wrote: »So someone who has never played ESO buys the game with a CPXXX character and pay for any other character to be on the same level at once?
That will be the day i stop playing....
...and I'm sure it will happen soon.
UnknownNick wrote: »I don't really get why there is no character boost in this game. I don't mean just bringing your character to level 50, but also giving you skill points and guild skill line at max lvl. I think there are ways to make it balanced, many games have it already
You are aware unlike other games with this this is a sandbox mmorpg and a lot of the pve content consists of the open world right? This would litterally complete the game for you.
A level boost should not exist, espically not one with that level of completion, may I also add, considering buying skyshards alone.
Your looking at paying like £100+ per character. It would annoy almost every player immediately. Specially considering how pay to win it would be considered
Nah, I think a class swap function would serve this much stronger.
Just a heads-up, eso isn't a sandbox mmo, farthest from it actually. It's a themepark mmorpg like swtor, wow, & gw2.
Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »Lock lv 50 boost to cp 1000
Go and play an asian MMO if you want too pay your way too endgame... Or WoW. But those are the games... And frankly... there is a reason WoW is dying and why Asian MMOs are not popular in the west. And P2W is one of them...
Sure, ESO is walking a fine line currently. But we are still within Pay for Convenience. Not P2W.
Androconium wrote: »He has two stars now, you can stopDark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »Lock lv 50 boost to cp 1000
CP is account wide and the cap is frozen at 810 while they review the CP system.
I think he meant like: "You can buy the lv50 boost only when hitted cp1000 on your account"
Juju_beans wrote: »Chicharron wrote: »So someone who has never played ESO buys the game with a CPXXX character and pay for any other character to be on the same level at once?
That will be the day i stop playing....
...and I'm sure it will happen soon.
And then that "new" character joins up for trials because that's all they really want to do.
That very thing happened to wow when they started selling boosts.
This forum never fails to amaze me. Character boost, instant max level, gear in the store, solo trials, duo arenas, 6 man dungeons, token system for random drops...
Horse boost is already in the game. Called "crown store riding lessons" - and faaaar from free, as ALL of those things will be. Look at the crown store. Look at the riding lessons. Look at the Skyshard unlocks. THAT is what it will be like.UnknownNick wrote: »I hope they will make horse boostr free
UnknownNick wrote: »I don't really get why there is no character boost in this game. I don't mean just bringing your character to level 50, but also giving you skill points and guild skill line at max lvl. I think there are ways to make it balanced, many games have it already
You are aware unlike other games with this this is a sandbox mmorpg and a lot of the pve content consists of the open world right? This would litterally complete the game for you.
A level boost should not exist, espically not one with that level of completion, may I also add, considering buying skyshards alone.
Your looking at paying like £100+ per character. It would annoy almost every player immediately. Specially considering how pay to win it would be considered
Nah, I think a class swap function would serve this much stronger.
TriangularChicken wrote: »UnknownNick wrote: »I don't really get why there is no character boost in this game. I don't mean just bringing your character to level 50, but also giving you skill points and guild skill line at max lvl. I think there are ways to make it balanced, many games have it already
You are aware unlike other games with this this is a sandbox mmorpg and a lot of the pve content consists of the open world right? This would litterally complete the game for you.
A level boost should not exist, espically not one with that level of completion, may I also add, considering buying skyshards alone.
Your looking at paying like £100+ per character. It would annoy almost every player immediately. Specially considering how pay to win it would be considered
Nah, I think a class swap function would serve this much stronger.
How is this pay to win? What do you win when your character is lvl 50 compared to a char on lvl 30? What exactly do you win? And who is stronger - the lvl 30 or the lvl 50 char?
The only thing you win is time..that's about it.
TheShadowScout wrote: »Oh, someday I expect it will come, one way or another.
At least for alts, same way as the skyshards... and likely in similar price range.Horse boost is already in the game. Called "crown store riding lessons" - and faaaar from free, as ALL of those things will be. Look at the crown store. Look at the riding lessons. Look at the Skyshard unlocks. THAT is what it will be like.UnknownNick wrote: »I hope they will make horse boostr free
In the end, you will have a choice - play for it, or pay for it.
...which is what I have been saying all this time to the "gimme crowd" who whine on the forums that they ought to get it all account wide for free...
Androconium wrote: »Where do you need to go on a fast horse anyway? Nowhere.
UnknownNick wrote: »Androconium wrote: »Where do you need to go on a fast horse anyway? Nowhere.
It's called exploration. You can't really rely on some sets, also when on magicka you don't even have that much stamina to actually run around, doing quests etc...
If you're one of those elitist that just do trials so don't need a horse to go around, don't even come on this thread please.
Where do you need to go on a fast horse anyway? EVERYWHERE. Even tho if you wanted to just grind or maybe farm the psijic skill line or the mages guild or w/ever, a fast horse is ALWAYS needed. You literally half the time you spend to exp those things
...you don't go to cyrodil much, huh?Androconium wrote: »Where do you need to go on a fast horse anyway? Nowhere.
Androconium wrote: »You haven't really defined what you mean by character boost.
Androconium wrote: »UnknownNick wrote: »Androconium wrote: »Where do you need to go on a fast horse anyway? Nowhere.
It's called exploration. You can't really rely on some sets, also when on magicka you don't even have that much stamina to actually run around, doing quests etc...
If you're one of those elitist that just do trials so don't need a horse to go around, don't even come on this thread please.
Where do you need to go on a fast horse anyway? EVERYWHERE. Even tho if you wanted to just grind or maybe farm the psijic skill line or the mages guild or w/ever, a fast horse is ALWAYS needed. You literally half the time you spend to exp those thingsIf you had bothered reading more than your own two posts today, I already mentioned (today) that i have only ever completed one trial. I got a very nice costume dye from it.
- You can match either of those sets to a magicka set and be competent.
- Nope. I'm one of those elitist farmer/traders that gave up leveling the horse when I found gear that was almost as good.
- I'm so elitist that I don't go the Chapter zones where meager rewards are spread across vast open spaces. Spaces that need a horse to cross.
- The only place I ever really needed a horse was Cyrodiil, when I was FARMING skyshards.
Androconium wrote: »You haven't really defined what you mean by character boost.
Well it cant be 0-50 as that takes how many minutes these days (hell I could have 3 cp810 Necromancers tomorrow with none today)
So I assume he must mean 0-810 with no chars, and each an every world, guild and alliance war line...
but given that why not find a game he wants to actually play?
TheShadowScout wrote: »...you don't go to cyrodil much, huh?Androconium wrote: »Where do you need to go on a fast horse anyway? Nowhere.
There are some other ones too where you revisit an old and cleared region for one psijic mission or to grab a crafting survey or treasure chest way off a wayshrine or something.
Still, the point remains, you can get there either way. Some will accept getting there slower and train their riding the long way. Others may have more money then patience, and pay for the shortcut to a speedy horse.
Both are acceptable - those who play for it, and those who support the game by paying for it!
Androconium wrote: »Character boost eh? Lets discuss.
- Level 50. Not much gained, apart from the ability generate CP now. On all characters above Level 50.
- CP 160. Now you can acquire practically useful armour and weapons. They will sell, unlike everything else you've collected.
- There's a lot of time between 50 and CP160. But XP scrolls, double XP events, dolmens, Ambrosia and training-traited gear will help you a lot. Especially when stacked and used in the enlightenment window.
- CP 300. Now you have the ability to have two Constellations in each major stacked with 75 CP points, tripping 3 bonuses in potentially six constellations.
- Until you use an Alcast setup which blatantly (and successfully) ignores that concept.
I'm still waiting to hear what you mean by "character boost".
What part did you really want to pay for and why?
Or did I miss something?
UnknownNick wrote: »I don't really get why there is no character boost in this game. I don't mean just bringing your character to level 50, but also giving you skill points and guild skill line at max lvl. I think there are ways to make it balanced, many games have it already
You are aware unlike other games with this this is a sandbox mmorpg and a lot of the pve content consists of the open world right? This would litterally complete the game for you.
A level boost should not exist, espically not one with that level of completion, may I also add, considering buying skyshards alone.
Your looking at paying like £100+ per character. It would annoy almost every player immediately. Specially considering how pay to win it would be considered
Nah, I think a class swap function would serve this much stronger.
Just a heads-up, eso isn't a sandbox mmo, farthest from it actually. It's a themepark mmorpg like swtor, wow, & gw2.
barney2525 wrote: »I am so confused
Half of these types of threads complain that you can't get everything fast and free
The other half complains that everything is too easy
soooooo weird
TheShadowScout wrote: »Still, the point remains, you can get there either way. Some will accept getting there slower and train their riding the long way. Others may have more money then patience, and pay for the shortcut to a speedy horse.
Both are acceptable - those who play for it, and those who support the game by paying for it!
UnknownNick wrote: »Androconium wrote: »Character boost eh? Lets discuss.
- Level 50. Not much gained, apart from the ability generate CP now. On all characters above Level 50.
- CP 160. Now you can acquire practically useful armour and weapons. They will sell, unlike everything else you've collected.
- There's a lot of time between 50 and CP160. But XP scrolls, double XP events, dolmens, Ambrosia and training-traited gear will help you a lot. Especially when stacked and used in the enlightenment window.
- CP 300. Now you have the ability to have two Constellations in each major stacked with 75 CP points, tripping 3 bonuses in potentially six constellations.
- Until you use an Alcast setup which blatantly (and successfully) ignores that concept.
I'm still waiting to hear what you mean by "character boost".
What part did you really want to pay for and why?
Or did I miss something?
Nice, you once again mentioned CPs even tho they don't matter in this topic.
Don't worry tho, even if I LITERALLY JUST POSTED A COMMENT EXPLAINING WHAT THE BOOST IS ABOUT, I will write it again. (EVEN if it's not the first comment, but I really hope it's gonna be the last one)
Character boost - you get a token that boosts your new made toon directly to lv50, with class skills line already at lv50 and guild skills line (fighters guild and mages guild at least) at max level. Obviously with all the skill points you get from leveling up. OBVIOUSLY as I said 50 times now, you have to meet some requirements to actually buy it (as it works for skyshards), like FOR EXAMPLE, having already a toon with max CPs, or maybe even like 1000 CPs, like someone suggested. OBVIOUSLY mine is just an idea, it could be still be adjusted to be more balanced, maybe add more requirements or maybe making you unlock just some skills line, idk, just thoughts.
What is so hard to understand, really? You could have bothered reading some comments of the thread because I already wrote this many times. If you're one of those that have a lot of spare time and can max guild skill lines and a toon to lv50 by doing a marathon of ESO, I'm ok with that, I'm not one of these and I bet many people aren't. They already added skyshards in crown store for your new toons; it will be as Pay 2 Win (if you want to call like it, or Pay 2 Convenience as someone called it in the comments, if you read them :DDDD) as skyshards are. Nothing more, nothing less.
Character boost - you get a token that boosts your new made toon directly to lv50, with class skills line already at lv50 and guild skills line (fighters guild and mages guild at least) at max level.
Obvious that you'd get the skill points from the purchase?Obviously with all the skill points you get from leveling up.
Not really sure..What is so hard to understand, really?
I've been playing ESO for about four years. I had to earn all my achievements. Why should you just be able to buy them? I only got the Fighter's guild skill line about a month ago. I wasn't even aware of it. Or the Skills that went with it.If you're one of those that have a lot of spare time and can max guild skill lines and a toon to lv50 by doing a marathon of ESO,
Androconium wrote: »UnknownNick wrote: »Androconium wrote: »Character boost eh? Lets discuss.
- Level 50. Not much gained, apart from the ability generate CP now. On all characters above Level 50.
- CP 160. Now you can acquire practically useful armour and weapons. They will sell, unlike everything else you've collected.
- There's a lot of time between 50 and CP160. But XP scrolls, double XP events, dolmens, Ambrosia and training-traited gear will help you a lot. Especially when stacked and used in the enlightenment window.
- CP 300. Now you have the ability to have two Constellations in each major stacked with 75 CP points, tripping 3 bonuses in potentially six constellations.
- Until you use an Alcast setup which blatantly (and successfully) ignores that concept.
I'm still waiting to hear what you mean by "character boost".
What part did you really want to pay for and why?
Or did I miss something?
Nice, you once again mentioned CPs even tho they don't matter in this topic.
Don't worry tho, even if I LITERALLY JUST POSTED A COMMENT EXPLAINING WHAT THE BOOST IS ABOUT, I will write it again. (EVEN if it's not the first comment, but I really hope it's gonna be the last one)
Character boost - you get a token that boosts your new made toon directly to lv50, with class skills line already at lv50 and guild skills line (fighters guild and mages guild at least) at max level. Obviously with all the skill points you get from leveling up. OBVIOUSLY as I said 50 times now, you have to meet some requirements to actually buy it (as it works for skyshards), like FOR EXAMPLE, having already a toon with max CPs, or maybe even like 1000 CPs, like someone suggested. OBVIOUSLY mine is just an idea, it could be still be adjusted to be more balanced, maybe add more requirements or maybe making you unlock just some skills line, idk, just thoughts.
What is so hard to understand, really? You could have bothered reading some comments of the thread because I already wrote this many times. If you're one of those that have a lot of spare time and can max guild skill lines and a toon to lv50 by doing a marathon of ESO, I'm ok with that, I'm not one of these and I bet many people aren't. They already added skyshards in crown store for your new toons; it will be as Pay 2 Win (if you want to call like it, or Pay 2 Convenience as someone called it in the comments, if you read them :DDDD) as skyshards are. Nothing more, nothing less.Character boost - you get a token that boosts your new made toon directly to lv50, with class skills line already at lv50 and guild skills line (fighters guild and mages guild at least) at max level.
- That would also buy all the progression acheivements for that character.
- You won't have to do the dolmen requirements for the fighter's guild.
- You won't have to gather all the mages books for the mages guild.
Obvious that you'd get the skill points from the purchase?Obviously with all the skill points you get from leveling up.Not really sure..What is so hard to understand, really?I've been playing ESO for about four years. I had to earn all my achievements. Why should you just be able to buy them? I only got the Fighter's guild skill line about a month ago. I wasn't even aware of it. Or the Skills that went with it.If you're one of those that have a lot of spare time and can max guild skill lines and a toon to lv50 by doing a marathon of ESO,
The basic problem that I have with your idea is the same as I had with the Skyshards - search you'll see similar comments from me. The problem is that I and lots of other players have HAD to put the time in to earn those achievements.
Now people just rock up and ask to pay for it. The Skyshard thing was abyssmal, people (like you) sprouting off that they desperately needed Skyshards Now! Well they won; I hope they are happy with how ZOS implemented it.
This is a never-ending game; it's designed that way to keep you subscribing, Crown Store shopping and Chapter releases.
Why should you or anyone else be able to buy a fast-track through it, when OTHER PLAYERS have done it the long way around.
Finally, I do know how hard and long it is. I have two accounts; one at 946, the other at 240 or something. The things that I had forgotten about that I take for granted with the first account, are re-appearing for me on the second account.
But not once have I thought that I would prefer not to have to go through it all again. I just get on and do it. the only advantage is that I know where things are and don't need to actually find them the first time.
Androconium wrote: »The basic problem that I have with your idea is the same as I had with the Skyshards - search you'll see similar comments from me. The problem is that I and lots of other players have HAD to put the time in to earn those achievements.
Androconium wrote: »Now people just rock up and ask to pay for it. The Skyshard thing was abyssmal, people (like you) sprouting off that they desperately needed Skyshards Now! Well they won; I hope they are happy with how ZOS implemented it.
Androconium wrote: »Finally, I do know how hard and long it is. I have two accounts; one at 946, the other at 240 or something. The things that I had forgotten about that I take for granted with the first account, are re-appearing for me on the second account.
But not once have I thought that I would prefer not to have to go through it all again. I just get on and do it.
Androconium wrote: »Obvious that you'd get the skill points from the purchase?
Androconium wrote: »
- That would also buy all the progression acheivements for that character.
- You won't have to do the dolmen requirements for the fighter's guild.
- You won't have to gather all the mages books for the mages guild.
Androconium wrote: »