Are the wayshrines teleporting abilities cannon now?

worrallj

I was wondering if it would be a faux pas to mention wayshrines travel during an RP. Seems like they're part of the game world and so fair game, except then I realized no NPC ever seems to acknowledge them, no books I know of discuss their teleportation power, and you'd think they're existence would obviate the need for boats & carts to haul you to difference zones.

M_Volsung

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Wayshrines_of_Tamriel

tarotcard

Following this thread -- I too have this question!

I recently tried to play a character without using wayshrines at all and didn't last very long out of laziness ha.

SirAndy

I recall there was some sort of explanation in-game that alluded to the fact that only those without a soul can use the wayshrines for transportation.
Might have been a in-game book?

Anyways, if that is the case, it explains why there are no NPCs using them ...

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Which has been stated, The Vestige can use them because of their little "issue" with their soul, but the normal living people and heroes of Tamriel can not. They use portals done by mages and such instead for important fast travel, when horses, boats and carts won't do it in time.

worrallj

Thanks @M_Volsung that explains some things. So probably best not to mention in RP, since I don't think most people RP as a vestige (since it would be awkward if half the people in your group happened to have that same background).

Arunei

Yeah, Wayshrines are a game mechanic, not an actual means of travel around Tamriel. It's why you see people come up with all manner of portals and portal-esque methods for getting around (or for plebs like my vanilla bard, using an actual horse to get around most of the time lol).

Just be mindful, though, that there's a lot of contradiction amongst RPers about how easy and/or common portals are to make or obtain. I'm of the mindset that your average person probably couldn't afford to use them willy-nilly and that a majority of people likely do have to use mounts of some kind, or carts/carriages, to get around. However, seeing as most of us play characters who aren't your average villager, I have no issues with people having more regular access to portals to get around. I also don't think it's nearly as difficult for characters to learn how to make their own portals for transportation (you'll see people who believe only the Mages Guild knows how to use portals at will, which is silly imo).

Ilision

Guild of Mages

According to some lore and information found on the internet, there are approximately 9 Mage schools. These Mage schools are:

• Alteration
• Conjuration
• Destruction
• Illusion
• Mysticism
• Restoration
• Thaumaturgy
• Alchemy
• Enchanting

The one in question is of-cause Thaumaturgy. The reason why we are looking into Thaumaturgy is that this type of school is all about manipulating certain laws allowing a student to learn how to levitate, water walking and most importantly teleport.

I am sure most of us have noticed that upon teleporting to another player, our character dials a constellation. So, I believe that it is fair to say that over the years our character has also learned to use Mage's magic.

In conclusion, teleporting player to player or a way-shrine should be seen as much of an RP as riding a horse/mount.

Mandostandbo

In ES II: Daggerfall and ES III: Morrowind the player was fully capable of learning teleportation magic. The spells (Almsivi Intervention, Divine Intervention, Mark & Recall) belonged to the school of mysticism.

I'm not really sure what this means for this discussion, but I'm sure it's important.

Eraldus

I'm glad I bumped in this thread and I would like to say I wish wayshrines didn't existed in ESO at all.

I think they kinda take a bit of the immersion from the world and makes travelling around Tamriel way too conventional for the player... Same deal with on how you can just throw a few gold pieces into the air, to be able to fast-travel.

The game should've put carriages around all big cities and make the player pay a certain amount of gold based on how far they want to travel from the current city they're settled in, so that the player could "fast-travel" in a way that didn't broke immersion too much, while also making the player plan ahead instead of moving around all over the place without any consequences.

Watchdog

Eraldus wrote: »

I'm glad I bumped in this thread and I would like to say I wish wayshrines didn't existed in ESO at all.

I think they kinda take a bit of the immersion from the world and makes travelling around Tamriel way too conventional for the player... Same deal with on how you can just throw a few gold pieces into the air, to be able to fast-travel.

The game should've put carriages around all big cities and make the player pay a certain amount of gold based on how far they want to travel from the current city they're settled in, so that the player could "fast-travel" in a way that didn't broke immersion too much, while also making the player plan ahead instead of moving around all over the place without any consequences.

With all due respect, I sincerely hope I shall never play any such game you would have designed.

Moving anywhere would become a chore. Trying to buy things at the guild traders in several zones would become an extremely unpleasant activity, not worth the time and gold spent on travel fees.

Just think of the wayshrines as an OOC way to allow you to have fun, instead of spending much of your time in horse riding simulator somwehere in between the cities.

If you don't like the wayshrines system, don't use it. Immersion preserved, problem solved.

Eraldus

Watchdog wrote: »

Eraldus wrote: »

I'm glad I bumped in this thread and I would like to say I wish wayshrines didn't existed in ESO at all.

I think they kinda take a bit of the immersion from the world and makes travelling around Tamriel way too conventional for the player... Same deal with on how you can just throw a few gold pieces into the air, to be able to fast-travel.

The game should've put carriages around all big cities and make the player pay a certain amount of gold based on how far they want to travel from the current city they're settled in, so that the player could "fast-travel" in a way that didn't broke immersion too much, while also making the player plan ahead instead of moving around all over the place without any consequences.

With all due respect, I sincerely hope I shall never play any such game you would have designed.

Moving anywhere would become a chore. Trying to buy things at the guild traders in several zones would become an extremely unpleasant activity, not worth the time and gold spent on travel fees.

Just think of the wayshrines as an OOC way to allow you to have fun, instead of spending much of your time in horse riding simulator somwehere in between the cities.

If you don't like the wayshrines system, don't use it. Immersion preserved, problem solved.

Ahhhh, the classic rHetoric of "Don't like it, don't use it", like as if that would work for me, on a game where I have to play with thousands of other players... I'm sure all the othe players would love to wait for me to arrive at a certain dungeon while riding on my horse, because I feel the wayshrines breaks immersion, so I don't use them.

As for you not playing any games "made by me", that's ok... you're a casual player, so if I were to develop a game, it wouldn't be focused in satisfying you, anyways.

Watchdog

Eraldus wrote: »

Watchdog wrote: »

Eraldus wrote: »

I'm glad I bumped in this thread and I would like to say I wish wayshrines didn't existed in ESO at all.

I think they kinda take a bit of the immersion from the world and makes travelling around Tamriel way too conventional for the player... Same deal with on how you can just throw a few gold pieces into the air, to be able to fast-travel.

The game should've put carriages around all big cities and make the player pay a certain amount of gold based on how far they want to travel from the current city they're settled in, so that the player could "fast-travel" in a way that didn't broke immersion too much, while also making the player plan ahead instead of moving around all over the place without any consequences.

With all due respect, I sincerely hope I shall never play any such game you would have designed.

Moving anywhere would become a chore. Trying to buy things at the guild traders in several zones would become an extremely unpleasant activity, not worth the time and gold spent on travel fees.

Just think of the wayshrines as an OOC way to allow you to have fun, instead of spending much of your time in horse riding simulator somwehere in between the cities.

If you don't like the wayshrines system, don't use it. Immersion preserved, problem solved.

Ahhhh, the classic rHetoric of "Don't like it, don't use it", like as if that would work for me, on a game where I have to play with thousands of other players... I'm sure all the othe players would love to wait for me to arrive at a certain dungeon while riding on my horse, because I feel the wayshrines breaks immersion, so I don't use them.

As for you not playing any games "made by me", that's ok... you're a casual player, so if I were to develop a game, it wouldn't be focused in satisfying you, anyways.

So, does that mean that you would rather force everyone else to waste their time riding a horse?

redlink1979

Eraldus wrote: »

...I would like to say I wish wayshrines didn't existed in ESO at all.

I think they kinda take a bit of the immersion from the world and makes travelling around Tamriel way too conventional for the player...

Not lore breaking and not rp breaking. Or does your char has a soul?!