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Meta pvp magsorc, questions about sorc? Get them answered
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Bumi Rockafella wrote: »i was half joking, this build isnt solely reliant on flame reach spam, I dont have masters because I dont really care for pve. Ive used willpower for years and it hasnt failed me and never ONCE have i ever found myself saying "wow i really wish I had a master staff i wouldve won that fight." bottom line is the extra magic is more important than buffing ONE skill that can be dodged and blocked easily.
You can't really feel that you're missing something when you've never had it in the first place....
When you play with a master staff and see how it feels and plays when Reach costs 1k less magicka per cast and does 1k more dmg in PvP, you just won't go back. Ever. 1k extra magicka in your build is nothing in comparison. You're comparing a Mercedes S Class to a Ford Escort and arguing the latter has never let you down, when you've never driven an S in the first place. Seems quite to silly to the eyes of anyone who has. It is the meta MagSorc weapon for a reason.
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gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭After a big resistance about pet sorc on pvp I joined the club
I'm trying master+1 pet (reach CC) as well Perfected inferno+2 pet (cc from volatile).
So far I found 2 pet much more fun.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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Malamar1229✭✭✭✭✭
✭ShadowProc wrote: »Malamar1229 wrote: »Drop willpower for masters
Drop chudan for bloodspawn
Drop mages wrath for boundless
I don’t know. I have been having a lot of success with mages wrath. When I used boundless so many times I would have someone down to execute and a wrath prof would have finished them off.
I mean eventually they still die but when I am trying to 1vx I find if I kill them quicker I don’t need to tank as much.
What are the advantages of boundless over wrath? Maybe I am overlooking something.
Bad players will die to curse/frags/reach. Competent players will avoid dying to wrath.
Wasted slot especially on a build using matriarch.
It's a BG skill, imo.2 -
Malamar1229✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bumi Rockafella wrote: »willpower's 1.5mag > master's that buff one skill that can be blocked and dodged pretty easy. that 1.5k helps everything.
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NinchiTV✭✭✭✭✭grannas211 wrote: »Bumi Rockafella wrote: »grannas211 wrote: »Willpower is never better than master for a flame reach build unless you simply do not have one.
i was half joking, this build isnt solely reliant on flame reach spam, I dont have masters because I dont really care for pve. Ive used willpower for years and it hasnt failed me and never ONCE have i ever found myself saying "wow i really wish I had a master staff i wouldve won that fight." bottom line is the extra magic is more important than buffing ONE skill that can be dodged and blocked easily.
But its not better. Flame reach is your spammable. Its too expensive and too weak without the master staff. Just use force pulse with willpower. Youre the one making a AMA thread about "meta sorc build." No offense.
Flame reach isnt my spamable, i use it as a CC on cooldown. Im re applying curse, weaving frags and wrath, and using reach when i get a frag proc. I dont spam the same button in succession. Its not too expensive or weak at all without masters, as i said ive been using reach without masters for years. I also used force pulse when sorc had rune cage or when frag had stun but without a reliable cc its just too weak.1 -
NinchiTV✭✭✭✭✭Bumi Rockafella wrote: »i was half joking, this build isnt solely reliant on flame reach spam, I dont have masters because I dont really care for pve. Ive used willpower for years and it hasnt failed me and never ONCE have i ever found myself saying "wow i really wish I had a master staff i wouldve won that fight." bottom line is the extra magic is more important than buffing ONE skill that can be dodged and blocked easily.
You can't really feel that you're missing something when you've never had it in the first place....
When you play with a master staff and see how it feels and plays when Reach costs 1k less magicka per cast and does 1k more dmg in PvP, you just won't go back. Ever. 1k extra magicka in your build is nothing in comparison. You're comparing a Mercedes S Class to a Ford Escort and arguing the latter has never let you down, when you've never driven an S in the first place. Seems quite to silly to the eyes of anyone who has. It is the meta MagSorc weapon for a reason.
"you cant really feel..." and any validation goes out the window right there. masters is overrated but nice to have im sure. Can play perfectly fine without it.1 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Bumi Rockafella wrote: »Bumi Rockafella wrote: »i was half joking, this build isnt solely reliant on flame reach spam, I dont have masters because I dont really care for pve. Ive used willpower for years and it hasnt failed me and never ONCE have i ever found myself saying "wow i really wish I had a master staff i wouldve won that fight." bottom line is the extra magic is more important than buffing ONE skill that can be dodged and blocked easily.
You can't really feel that you're missing something when you've never had it in the first place....
When you play with a master staff and see how it feels and plays when Reach costs 1k less magicka per cast and does 1k more dmg in PvP, you just won't go back. Ever. 1k extra magicka in your build is nothing in comparison. You're comparing a Mercedes S Class to a Ford Escort and arguing the latter has never let you down, when you've never driven an S in the first place. Seems quite to silly to the eyes of anyone who has. It is the meta MagSorc weapon for a reason.
"you cant really feel..." and any validation goes out the window right there. masters is overrated but nice to have im sure. Can play perfectly fine without it.
I don't need any validation. I'm just telling you what's what. It's yours to take it or leave it, but beware you do sound like a noob suggesting it's comparable. Your choice.
PS. You can do fine with a lot of builds is ESO, especially as a MagSorc. Your subject is not about builds that do fine, it's about the meta build. Masterstaff is meta. Willpower is not.
Edited by Maulkin on June 6, 2019 12:18PMEU | PC | AD2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Bumi Rockafella wrote: »
Pets were always worth while. They were just frowned upon as inconvenient and cumbersome.
Now that sorcs have to run slightly more defensive builds they are kinda forced into using them for the efficiency of their dmg being outside of the global cool down.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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✭✭✭Bumi Rockafella wrote: »
Pets were always worth while. They were just frowned upon as inconvenient and cumbersome.
Now that sorcs have to run slightly more defensive builds they are kinda forced into using them for the efficiency of their dmg being outside of the global cool down.
Scamp is still unreliable. Matriarch is... less so. But more importantly, it brings the burst heal that was stolen from us (Healing Ward).
What does that mean? Pidgeonholing. Just give us back the god darn heal.1
