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New incap is fine, please, complain about something else.
kalunte
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Basically, and as far as i can understand it, the silence from incap is in the same spot as any other classic CC, it means that if you're immune from a potion, a skill or a recent breaking free, you're also immune to it.
it keeps the Reave because someone on top of this combat team has decided to make nightblades brawlers (according to grim focus' new mitigation)
the skill is nerfed:
- 3s breakable silence instead of a stun (which allows you to dodgeroll or do whatever you want with your stam during those sooooooo precious 3s)
- No longer applies major defile
nightblades who'll keep on using it will be given a passive regen to compensate.
note that magicka nightblades are allowed to slot incap if they so desperatly want this god damn OPaF regen and silence. dmg are still calculated from max stats.
Conclusion: Adapt.
it keeps the Reave because someone on top of this combat team has decided to make nightblades brawlers (according to grim focus' new mitigation)
the skill is nerfed:
- 3s breakable silence instead of a stun (which allows you to dodgeroll or do whatever you want with your stam during those sooooooo precious 3s)
- No longer applies major defile
nightblades who'll keep on using it will be given a passive regen to compensate.
note that magicka nightblades are allowed to slot incap if they so desperatly want this god damn OPaF regen and silence. dmg are still calculated from max stats.
Conclusion: Adapt.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭as long as the skill or thing that you dont like is performing exactly now the way "you" think it should be working then everyone else needs to stop talking about it and adapt.
right?
if anyone disagrees with how it currently works then they should not be allowed to complain, or talk about it?7 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭There's nothing wrong with it beside the fact you should avoid using it over 120 ulti most of the time in PvP. Making sure to "waste" ulti on a wolf will be common for those slotting it I suspect to keep from hitting the added Silence that makes comboing people harder. (JK those slotting it will only attack solo players they see with staves.)1 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Meh, just use dawnbreaker or onslaught. There are other good stamina ultimates, I wouldn’t use incap.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten9 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I personally do not like the silence idea.
It's too weak now imo
It was too strong.
Too late to throw out my idea (because I just thought of it)
But personally I'd make it increase the cost of opponents' abilities for 5 sec or so - something like 25%3 -
Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »I personally do not like the silence idea.
It's too weak now imo
It was too strong.
Too late to throw out my idea (because I just thought of it)
But personally I'd make it increase the cost of opponents' abilities for 5 sec or so - something like 25%
Something a kin to a new Major or Minor debuff? That'd be pretty neat. But yea, too late now.0 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »I personally do not like the silence idea.
It's too weak now imo
It was too strong.
Too late to throw out my idea (because I just thought of it)
But personally I'd make it increase the cost of opponents' abilities for 5 sec or so - something like 25%
Interesting, seems particularly punishing for builds skimping on sustain. There's always future patches....
Kinda like it? Seems a little dangerous as well.0 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭
I guess my comment was super effective.
PS. Your PS is wrong
I play magsorc XD. And it was, good troll! Mine was ok, would have been even better if it wasn't true
. Like the floor on playing magsorc is incredibly high which is part of why you see so many rn. Ofc being even more skilled helps but the minimum for effectiveness is just light attack weaving and letting a twilight apply pressure while doing simple combos.
DBoS is too good in PvP which is the main reason Incap has to be obscenely OP to be playable. DBoS is even played on magsorc so you know it is too much.4 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just think its strange that the effectiveness of the Silence effect depends entirely on whether you are fighting a Stam or Mag build.
Like, my MagDK will be silenced, but my Stam Warden could care less.2 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it will only work in some very rare cases and has to be on time in those situations.
not even worth sloting.
if you let it go above 120 then it worthless in those other cases which are basicly all of the time.
if i could see the enemies stamina bar, then i could perfectly place it and even then it would not be strong because is only 3 seconds and only certain builds and classes would it work against them and in my favor, but that "favor" for me would be small.
it should no longer be called an "ultimate"
should now be called "cheap trick"
Edited by Gilvoth on May 13, 2019 6:00PM1 -
eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Silence is a stupid one sided idea. Putting silence on one of the highest single target, and highest survivability, classes is a bad idea. This is a less bad idea than before, but still bad.
If incap didn't hit through roll dodge it wouldn't be as bad. I mean what single target ability hits through roll dodge? wtf?2 -
arkansas_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Scales off max stats, doesn't scale off of CP. I'll probably still run it on magblade in no CP because the regen from it is pretty ridiculous, considering how prevalent negative effects are.
The changes made to NB this patch still don't really make any coherent sense.ＦＯＲＵＭＰＬＡＲ
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brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Silence is a stupid one sided idea. Putting silence on one of the highest single target, and highest survivability, classes is a bad idea. This is a less bad idea than before, but still bad.
If incap didn't hit through roll dodge it wouldn't be as bad. I mean what single target ability hits through roll dodge? wtf?
When did this change? I see my Incap/SH get dodged all the time when someone is roly polling. Or do you mean the +20% damage buff is undodgable?arkansas_ESO wrote: »Scales off max stats, doesn't scale off of CP. I'll probably still run it on magblade in no CP because the regen from it is pretty ridiculous, considering how prevalent negative effects are.
The changes made to NB this patch still don't really make any coherent sense.
I'll definitely try the new Incap out on my MagNB. The sustain boost is nice and I can focus magicka characters for the Silence - many will freak out early on.Edited by brandonv516 on May 13, 2019 6:29PM3 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I just think its strange that the effectiveness of the Silence effect depends entirely on whether you are fighting a Stam or Mag build.
Like, my MagDK will be silenced, but my Stam Warden could care less.Silence is a stupid one sided idea. Putting silence on one of the highest single target, and highest survivability, classes is a bad idea. This is a less bad idea than before, but still bad.
If incap didn't hit through roll dodge it wouldn't be as bad. I mean what single target ability hits through roll dodge? wtf?
It's lag's fault. You weren't dodging yet to the server when Incap actually hit you even tho on your comp's side it looked like it hit mid dodge roll.
Honestly, even mag classes can be happy they got hit with a stun where you can LOS damage before CC breaking and get to enjoy 6 second of sweet sweet CC immunity. All for the low cost of the stamblade holding their ult for almost twice as long as base cost!
I was on the side that new Incap wasn't good but it wasn't actively bad. Now, I'm not so sure. Someone will tell me to L2P soon and only gank mag spec in heavy lag so they don't know that the silence is why no skills fire instead of the usual lag.0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'd take a snare over that breakable Silence thing ANYTIME.@ Izaki #PCEU
#FrenchKiss #GoneFor2YearsAndMyGuildDoesn'tRaidAnymore
#MoreDPSthanYou
#Stamblade0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think I would run my stamblade as I did before and DBOS when I had higher ultimate. Incap only when below 120 as this makes it a really lackluster stun effectively.
At any rate; NBs. Enjoy the mechanics of total dark/Unstable core as a CC.2 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭I think I would run my stamblade as I did before and DBOS when I had higher ultimate. Incap only when below 120 as this makes it a really lackluster stun effectively.
At any rate; NBs. Enjoy the mechanics of total dark/Unstable core as a CC.
I don't want a buggy CC on my nightblades that either does nothing or randomly screws people over cause it is buggy. Dang, that's what they got I guess. 1 -
ll_Rev✭✭✭✭
I guess my comment was super effective.
PS. Your PS is wrong
This is why the game is in the state it is now. You have no way idea what you’re talking about.
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WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So this post was made to complain about people complaining about the changes to Incap? I don’t really have a problem with it now that it obeys CC immunity and can be broken free.
I do wonder how long until someone makes a post complaining about the people complaining about the people complaining about the Incap changes.1 -
Seenoevil✭✭✭So front bar cost increase poisons with assassins guile,cyrodils ward as constant 5 piece, slimecraws and covers everything that was lost and we just gained more sustain,silence, and 15% damage mitigation0
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ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭as long as the skill or thing that you dont like is performing exactly now the way "you" think it should be working then everyone else needs to stop talking about it and adapt.
right?
if anyone disagrees with how it currently works then they should not be allowed to complain, or talk about it?
This is a double edged sword you're swinging0 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
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Nah they're right, doesn't take skill to play hide n go gank. To many of these kids think they're gods or something when it's just impossible to see the unseen. Download Fortnite and go snipe there0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »
Nah they're right, doesn't take skill to play hide n go gank. To many of these kids think they're gods or something when it's just impossible to see the unseen. Download Fortnite and go snipe there
and for us archers and ranged magicka casters we should leave eso as well?
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »as long as the skill or thing that you dont like is performing exactly now the way "you" think it should be working then everyone else needs to stop talking about it and adapt.
right?
if anyone disagrees with how it currently works then they should not be allowed to complain, or talk about it?
This is a double edged sword you're swinging
asking questions on an open forum is cutting ?0 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Agreed 100%.
If I were a stamblade main, I'd be arguing for it to be reverted to a stun. But really, it's just a weak stun that only effects 1/2 the players, and even then doesn't lock them out of mechanics. It's really non-impactful, as-is. I'd suspect the "right" play will almost always be fear--incap or fear--dawnbreaker, not even applying the silence.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub0
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