WHEN PREMADE GROUPS WILL HAVE SEPARATE BATTLEGROUNDS QUEUE?

JusticeSouldier

@ZOS_BrianWheeler WHEN?

FierceSam

When

A) there are enough of them out there

ZOS can be bothered to fix the group finder

atm the Battleground population is too low and the group finder doesn’t work.

JusticeSouldier

FierceSam wrote: »

When

A) there are enough of them out there

ZOS can be bothered to fix the group finder

atm the Battleground population is too low and the group finder doesn’t work.

and it will never be big because current blend is freaking broken.
until creating second queue. or at least deny premade at all until pupulation grows

Jeremy

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler WHEN?

Lure the premades toward your base that way the rest of your team can spawn back faster and kill them. It works well - especially since a lot of premades tend to be over confident. Helps to use the home field advantage against them.

Runefang

When they've finally exhausted the willpower and stubbornness of those who aren't pre-made

Darkenarlol

ONE DAY

OR

NEVER

NO

ETA

Runkorko

Darkenarlol wrote: »

ONE DAY

OR

NEVER

NO

ETA

More like never

LiraTaurwen

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler WHEN?

dude they can't even fix the group finder... a crucial part of the game is broken and they don't fix it lol you are asking for something too complicated for these idiots to handle.

Schokolade

I must precise that many times my group seems a pre made, but it's just a good random group (sad at the end).

Note:
Other times I play with my Gf, a sort of pre made of 2, never of 3 or 4, so I understand the situation.

Oh, and all games (MMO) are the same, if you have friends and comunication then you have an advantage.
NOBODY is stopping you from doing that.


From another topic:

Beardimus wrote: »

Half the pre mades you think are pre mades aren't, they just good BG players who know how to roll.

If you get stomped, build a team, fight fire with fire.

Patch notes have introduced a bigger step into MMR this patch to put premades with premades more. Can onLy go so far tho and still get fast queue pop.

I say use another motivation. Have a pre-made ranking leader board. With prizes, names teams. That way the guys really on it will go there as good players don't enjoy pug stomping as it is. Win win.

Olupajmibanan

I partially agree that premade groups need separate queue.

However, I would make two queues: solo/duo and premade. This type of two separate queue one for solo and duo players (being queued with a friend is not much of a deal) and other for big premades is seen in many other games as well.

Making separate solo queue only would be nail in the coffin for already low BG population.

Thogard

Jeremy wrote: »

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler WHEN?

Lure the premades toward your base that way the rest of your team can spawn back faster and kill them. It works well - especially since a lot of premades tend to be over confident. Helps to use the home field advantage against them.

This is actually the worst possible strategy you can do lol

Cążki

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler WHEN?

Bump hi is right when ?

LeagueTroll

About 70% of the forum support this. Zos too lazy.

StormeReigns

Are there even enough premade groups out there to really warrant a second queue?

I mean it would be nice, but, I maybe encounter one at the very most once a week. Typically on the weekend just as peak times ends... muat be horrid to encounter that many premades so often...

SoLooney

But pub stomping is so much fun

ZonasArch

Careful what you wish for...

JusticeSouldier

SkerKro wrote: »

Are there even enough premade groups out there to really warrant a second queue?

I mean it would be nice, but, I maybe encounter one at the very most once a week. Typically on the weekend just as peak times ends... muat be horrid to encounter that many premades so often...

I'm sure premade queue will work.
There are many players who like to play in group. Even to die in group. To create like "meta" for 4 man groups.
But system doesn't allow such groups to fight with relevant enemy for sure.
Part of them enjoy to stomp pugs. They will not enjoy to die from really skilled groups. But it's a must.
To learn or die like a randoms from them before. Same as system of prisons doesn't alow different garbage to make trash in usual life. Or at least ro repeat do it.
Another part...Well they do GvG in cyrodiil or fights as small scale groups vs zerglings.
Population in general is much bigger than we see now. Current system is not competitive

Intextio

Just because you got absolutely wrecked in a BG that doesn't mean it was from a premade. There are many random groups that just happen to have bunch of experience pvp player randomly matched up together for a BG.

russelmmendoza

Never.

Zos will tell you to buy more crowns, but they will never fix anything.

Because fixing things wont make you buy more crowns.

Now, reskins of everything is a crown sell guaranteed.

So, why bother fixing things.

Jeremy

Thogard wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler WHEN?

Lure the premades toward your base that way the rest of your team can spawn back faster and kill them. It works well - especially since a lot of premades tend to be over confident. Helps to use the home field advantage against them.

This is actually the worst possible strategy you can do lol

I have beaten some very deadly premades using this strategy even with mediocre random teams. It's even better when there is a place near the base where ranged can shoot down on them. It's hilarious to watch actually - and how they react when it finally dawns on them what we're doing and then you start to see them run back and wait on us to come to them instead.

The "worst possible strategy you can do" is to charge headlong into a pre-made without any advantage in your favor. Lambs to the slaughter comes to mind, because that's usually what's going to happen. Random teams need terrain advantages to have any chance against an organized PvP team.

Nemesis7884

Premades should only be pitted against other premades....or it will be really frustrating

Kidgangster101

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Premades should only be pitted against other premades....or it will be really frustrating

But you do know you can make a premade group and combat other pre made groups right? You are playing a MMORPG where it is encouraged to play with people 😉

Premade que would never work as it would have to require a full group of 4. If you have 2 or 3 que together then you would essentially be quing with "random" players just like it is now, except with a group of 3 you can't do battlegrounds because you can't que into non premade and you cant get 1 random into your group because they would be quing solo........

JusticeSouldier

Jeremy wrote: »

I have beaten some very deadly premades using this strategy even with mediocre random teams. It's even better when there is a place near the base where ranged can shoot down on them. It's hilarious to watch actually - and how they react when it finally dawns on them what we're doing and then you start to see them run back and wait on us to come to them instead.

The "worst possible strategy you can do" is to charge headlong into a pre-made without any advantage in your favor. Lambs to the slaughter comes to mind, because that's usually what's going to happen. Random teams need terrain advantages to have any chance against an organized PvP team.

Deadly premade will overheal whole your ranged damage. Even if all 3 your teammates same ranged and u will focus same person from their team. And they can increase the distance when they want to avoid some burst. U're locked there. If someone jumped down - hello bro, goodbye bro. In any case such group win match.

JusticeSouldier

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Never.

Zos will tell you to buy more crowns, but they will never fix anything.

Because fixing things wont make you buy more crowns.

Now, reskins of everything is a crown sell guaranteed.

So, why bother fixing things.

At the end people buy crowns etc (pay $ in general) when interested in game.
In short perspective it's because of new content or "features".
On a long distance - it's because of fixes and imroving the gameplay.
Each new content becomes old one very quickly and (from the business experience) keeping old "client" or "employee" is mostly more profitable than search of new ones again and again and then loosing them with the same speed...
I don't believe that Zenimax team really understand what they do with fixes, but I suppose they understand this obvious thing if they still exist as a company

Akrasjel

Never

Because reasons

Aurielle

Intextio wrote: »

Just because you got absolutely wrecked in a BG that doesn't mean it was from a premade. There are many random groups that just happen to have bunch of experience pvp player randomly matched up together for a BG.

While that CAN be true, many of us are well aware that we’re fighting a premade because we’ve fought against those exact same four people multiple times that day. There’s no way the exact same four people will be randomly matched together over and over again.

Playing at higher MMR tiers is kind of like living in a small town. Everyone knows everyone. I can almost always tell what the opposing teams are wearing and what skills/strategies they will be using just by looking at the lineup.

Kadoin

Going into BGs and fighting premades with 2xEG and 2x Bogdan is one of the most annnoying things to encounter in the game. It's worse when both teams openly collude so that you lose Since I queue solo, it sucks. The best part is how people on top of the ranking somehow get matched vs people playing in BGs for the first time over and over and farm them...

Nice system...

Oh wait, I wasn't supposed to talk about that was I?