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ZOS PLEASE implement these BG features (custom lobbys, intuitive ranking and more)

Regal_Imp
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Let's get right to the point: BGs are a good idea that were EXTREMELY under developed.

All the PvPers in the game want these few things, and its about time ZOS paid attention.

1) We want a CUSTOM LOBBY option. With the extremely complicated and unintuitive MMR system BGs have, its nearly impossible to get a 4v4v4 match with people you want to play with EVEN if you all queue at the same time and wait for the ready check (it used to work, but ZOS broke something when they changed the MMR system recently). This is the biggest concern on our list, because even if ZOS cant give us competitive BG scenes, we can at least make our own and conduct our own tournaments etc if we have access to private custom lobbys that allow us to choose our opponents.

2) In a perfect world, we'd also have INTUITIVE RANKINGS for BG MMR. What I mean by this is a visible rank (I.E. bronze, silver, gold) for a ranked "season" and this would allow us to better understand who we're faced against and perhaps allow us to earn different rewards based on our skill level and not simply based on how many BGs we play in a week.

3) Speaking of leaderboards, we want REAL REWARDS based on skill and merit, not just how often you play. If we can't have a ranking system, then at least give us something to earn by playing these BGs so much. One gold item and 10 transmutes isnt enough, give us unique prizes, costumes, emotes etc so that people actually want to play BGs

4) If we can have none of these things, then at least give us SEPERATE QUEUES for premades and solo queuers. NOBODY likes the fact that you can solo queue into a match against two 4 man premade teams,. The main problem is that premades arent facing eachother because they have slightly different "MMR" (ZOS MMR is ridiculous, barely even worth calling it MMR), but for some reason we're facing a group of pugs for no apparent reason. Have 4man premades face 4man premades, have solo queuers face other solo and duo queuers, let us ENJOY OUR EXPERIENCE WITH BGS.

I tried to keep this as concise as possible and I'd love to elaborate further in the comments if anybody has questions. It's gotten to the point where a lot of the PvPers on PC NA have gotten together to start a competitive BG scene of our own, but still can't get it to work properly because we have to wait hours in the queue before we get matched with the people we want to fight. Please comment and let myself and ZOS know what you think.

- Regal
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  • yooqi
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    Custom lobby would be great, I can see it being used a lot for guild events.

    I don't see them implementing separate queues even though it would be great, but some sort of ranking system is the least they could do. The fact that PVP ranks are based on time sink makes them less engaging than they could be, so something new would definitely be appreciated.
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  • MincVinyl
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    1) Good idea to implement player made games, since zos doesn't put together tournaments

    2) Making the rank system clearer would make BGs more competitive instead of just either winning or losing

    3) Rewards should be at par with cyrodil rewards(which i think should be redone as well to match skill over playtime). Possibly make rewards for going up in rank, then a bigger reward for holding that rank over a week/month

    4) Solo que gets real boring when you wait 20 mins to go up against 3-4 man teams that are coordinating.
    Possibly make it so solo/duos are one que, then 3-4 man groups are their own que.
  • Fake Remedy
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    Agree. However not sure private and exclusive player controlled custom lobbies is the way to go.
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  • NyassaV
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    Resetting MMR with every update would be great or having some sort of degrade system
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  • Razier
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    If ZoS made these changes quickly that would certainly make Midyear Mayham one hell of an event
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  • Regal_Imp
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    Agree. However not sure private and exclusive player controlled custom lobbies is the way to go.

    Ideally ZOS would fix their own MMR, but if they can't give us a way to compete against our friends, then they should let us set up the competitions ourselves!
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  • Urvoth
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    ZOS has a good starting point for setting up a better system and it's disappointing that nothing has come out of it for all this time.
  • Muskrap
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    If we had more intuitive ways of doing competitive group fights like this we wouldn't beat up casual pvp as much
  • Regal_Imp
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    Muskrap wrote: »
    If we had more intuitive ways of doing competitive group fights like this we wouldn't beat up casual pvp as much

    Half the threads in this sub-forum are about how premades are ruining the experience... ZOS needs to let us premade in our private lobbies.
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  • TriangularChicken
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    there was another guy with a similar idea (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/461935/how-to-finally-fix-balance-battlegrounds-in-my-opinion/p1) ..he even figured out rewards and pictures..but guess what...zos doesn't care.

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    fixing pvp and pvp related bugs doesn't make the casual player happy hence they won't fix/change anything.
    they believe only new content is what brings money, sadly..
  • Mihael
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    So many great ideas that’s would make bgs amazing ^^ @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler
  • HEBREWHAMMERRR
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    Bump. Please acknowledge some sort of fix for BGs. A custom lobby would be absolutely amazing but I think a displayed MMR ranking would be great too. The current “leaderboards” are a joke and actually discourage the good players from placing high. Higher MMR = way longer que times vs harder competition. It’s just all around a terrible system.
  • SacredEarth
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    I read a thread like this and it often feels like this:


    "hmmm great ideas! Wow, I would love to see these implemented! Simple and elegant solutions, it makes me excited to play! Oh wait, ZOS doesn't even acknowledge these threads, let alone address long standing bugs and glitches... When do Crowfall/Chronicles of Elyria come out again?"
  • HEBREWHAMMERRR
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/477137/bg-ques-can-we-get-acknowledgement#latest

    I made new post in general to gain more exposure and referenced the idea of custom lobbies. Maybe will gain traction.
  • Regal_Imp
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    It's obvious from all the responses here, and on other BG change threads that adding small changes like private queue etc would be a huge bonus to ESO's dwindling PvP scene. We can only hope that with enough exposure, ZOS will listen!
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  • Kel
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    I like the idea of private lobby matchmaking.

    Of course, there can't be rewards tied to it. Far too easy to be abused. Myself and 11 guildies could just win trade until we couldn't spend all the AP we got if we tried. If it can be abused, it WILL be abused.


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  • jediodyn_ESO
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    I just want battlegrounds where other people actually want to play.

    Overwhelming majority of feedback from this forum, in game, and in creator content (YouTube/Twitch) is the same:

    Separate queues for pugs and premades.
    Reasonable incentive to actually fight in competetive premade v premade teams.

    As usual, no mention of any of this in the future update notes. Devs either don't get it, or just don't care.
    It's really depressing because BG PvP is just one part of a much bigger game with many great things, but for those of us who like to fight, it's a big and important part.

    Someday, another fun action fantasy MMO with decent pvp will make its way to console. On that day many of us will find a new home there and take our money, our content creation, and their new players with us. Maybe then they'll care.

  • ChunkyCat
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    Regal_Imp wrote: »
    It's obvious from all the responses here, and on other BG change threads that adding small changes like private queue etc would be a huge bonus to ESO's dwindling PvP scene. We can only hope that with enough exposure, ZOS will listen!

    If ESO’a PvP scene were actually dwindling, Cyrodil servers wouldn’t be pop locked on most nights and low MMR noobs would be waiting just as long as the rest of us for a BG match.

    The only thing ZoS needs to seriously add is an eye roll emoji on these forums.
    Edited by ChunkyCat on July 10, 2019 6:48AM
  • Morgul667
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    that would be great
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