Items that cause motion sickness in ESO?

Matchimus

I cannot play FPS games because I get motion sickness so here I am in ESO.

I recently bought the psijic wolf and immediately had to stop using it as I started to get the motion sickness feeling. Had same problem with the Jester personality. It seems that as long as my character remains fairly steady in the centre of the screen I'm fine. I was thinking of getting the Drunk personality coming up but not so sure now (how unsteady is it?) which has me wondering what other items should I be avoiding.

Are there items that have caused other players motion sickness?

Sylvermynx

Not so much. My issue is the whole business of "camera swing" messing with my vertigo (which is the kind the doctor can't prescribe for). So I have had to learn that I need to move the camera slowly. Which can sometimes make combat a bit tricky....

Davor

A few options, not sure if tried or not. First go into settings and turn down or better yet off the head bobbing in first person mode. If that doesn't work, play in third person mode. That helped me in Skyrim and Fallout 4 till I got use to it.

Also try going into the options for field of view. You can unzoom them out so you get a more view. Also helped me.

Also, lots of light, till you get use to it, and if not working still, Try some root ginger. Tastes HORRIBLE, but has helped me when those options didn't work for me in Fallout 4.

For me, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4 were real bad for me when they came out. Took me a long while to get use to. As for ESO, I had the same issue but lucky for me, all I needed to do was take head bobbing out and decrease the zoom level so a bigger field of view. That worked for me.

Good luck, I hope this helps.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

I haven't gotten motion sickness, but experience vertigo quite often.

Matchimus

Davor wrote: »

A few options, not sure if tried or not. First go into settings and turn down or better yet off the head bobbing in first person mode. If that doesn't work, play in third person mode. That helped me in Skyrim and Fallout 4 till I got use to it.

Also try going into the options for field of view. You can unzoom them out so you get a more view. Also helped me.

Also, lots of light, till you get use to it, and if not working still, Try some root ginger. Tastes HORRIBLE, but has helped me when those options didn't work for me in Fallout 4.

For me, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4 were real bad for me when they came out. Took me a long while to get use to. As for ESO, I had the same issue but lucky for me, all I needed to do was take head bobbing out and decrease the zoom level so a bigger field of view. That worked for me.

Good luck, I hope this helps.

Thanks for suggestions. I always play in third-person zoomed out as far as I can. I seem to be only having the issue when my character's head has significant bobbing/movement from it's central point. I use Senches and there is only a very subtle head movement and I have no issues.

Cernow

I also suffer badly from motion sickness in most first person and certain third person games too. It mostly seems to be triggered by a narrow field of view, too much camera movement (swing or shake) or too much jumping about.

I haven't had too many problems with ESO since they added improvements to the camera to allow it to be always centred and a field of view slider. At launch there was only an offset over-the-shoulder view with a console style FOV which caused me big problems, so I've always been thankful that the devs subsequently added some camera options.

Forgive me if you already know this, but have you found the Field Of View slider in Settings : Camera? If you put this on maximum it should help to minimise the impact of any unsteadiness. You can also control the camera rotation speed and centring etc there.

I've found the standard Highland Wolf to be one of the most reliable mounts for not causing any motion sickness. So I wonder what it is about the Psijic Wolf which causes problems? The ghostly effect maybe?

jainiadral

I could swear there's a checkbox for camera shake you should turn off too. That won't help with the wolf, but there are a few obnoxious quests that made me queasy before I found it.

Savos_Saren

Don't ride a bear mount. For some reason- the animation of that movement makes me cringe. All other mount animations are fine and I think senches/wolves are the most fluid.

Sylvermynx

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Don't ride a bear mount. For some reason- the animation of that movement makes me cringe. All other mount animations are fine and I think senches/wolves are the most fluid.

Uh. Camels too.... Wolves are hard on me though not as bad as bears and camels. Cats are fine. The word "fluid" defines cats....

Matchimus

Cernow wrote: »

Forgive me if you already know this, but have you found the Field Of View slider in Settings : Camera? If you put this on maximum it should help to minimise the impact of any unsteadiness. You can also control the camera rotation speed and centring etc there.

No forgiveness necessary. I know nothing of this and will check it out when I get home.

Cernow wrote: »

I've found the standard Highland Wolf to be one of the most reliable mounts for not causing any motion sickness. So I wonder what it is about the Psijic Wolf which causes problems? The ghostly effect maybe?

I just had a look at some youtube clips of this wolf. Same prob. The jockeying movement of the rider is quite bouncy and motion sickness feeling just doubled when the wolf went into a slight ditch. The jockeying movement of rider on Senches seems very steady.

Matchimus

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Don't ride a bear mount. For some reason- the animation of that movement makes me cringe. All other mount animations are fine and I think senches/wolves are the most fluid.

Tyvm. Just saw clip of bear. They are out.

Matchimus

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Don't ride a bear mount. For some reason- the animation of that movement makes me cringe. All other mount animations are fine and I think senches/wolves are the most fluid.

Uh. Camels too.... Wolves are hard on me though not as bad as bears and camels. Cats are fine. The word "fluid" defines cats....

Tyvm. Yep camels are out too. I like your description with cats as 'fluid'.

Salvas_Aren

Never had those issues. But for a strange reason my stomach tends to remind me that we don't like heights.

So jumping down the mountains of Wrothgar is a kind of an issue, but then I simply stop staring at the screen for a second and it's fine.

Concerning your motion sickness, try to ride a giant dwemer spider or a nix ox. I don't like them personally, but I think they are the kind of mounts where the player moves the least. Maybe give them a try on the test server where it is free.

Minyassa

First person always makes me nauseous within just a few seconds, so I stay zoomed out. The only other thing that's consistently make me feel barferiffic is the bear mount. Camel does not affect me--it's apparently fairly steady from side to side despite the up and down motion, so I guess that's what gets me.

ArchMikem

Matchimus wrote: »

I was thinking of getting the Drunk personality coming up but not so sure now (how unsteady is it?) which has me wondering what other items should I be avoiding.

I mean, it's called the "Drunk" personality for a reason. Your character won't just be standing there in place mildly buzzed.

Zacuel

Do bunny hopping sorcs count?

Matchimus

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Maybe give them a try on the test server where it is free.

I never thought of doing this (never been on test server either). Tyvm.

Matchimus

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Cernow

Matchimus wrote: »

I just had a look at some youtube clips of this wolf. Same prob. The jockeying movement of the rider is quite bouncy and motion sickness feeling just doubled when the wolf went into a slight ditch. The jockeying movement of rider on Senches seems very steady.

Ah, I just tried the Highland Wolf with the camera closer than usual and I can see what you mean. It does bob a bit, but nowhere near as much as either the standard horse or the camel, which is one of the worst offenders.

I don't have the full range of mounts, but of the ones I have the two that create the least bobbing / jockeying are the Tesselated Guar and the Nix-Ox War Steed.

Try setting the Field Of View slider to max and see if this helps too, it should lessen the impact of any bobbing. The max FOV is 130 on the PC version, I'm not sure what it is on console (or if it is even an option on console) perhaps someone else can confirm?

pauli133

As someone that deals with motion sickness on a frustratingly regular basis, I very strongly recommend only using Senches and Dwarven Spiders as mounts.

What I've learned over the years is that the issue, for me, is anything that disconnects camera motion from expected motion (that is, output from input). Camera clipping into a wall? Sick. Get hung up on an uneven floor? Sick. Lag or low framerates making controls unresponsive? Ugh.

It's part of the reason I don't do much of anything with housing - indoor environments mean unexpected camera motion.

Matthew_Galvanus

i get a sick feeling in my stomach when my character falls from a high height, often times i have to close my eyes and looka way or it leaves me feel nauseous

DreadKnight

The animation when initiating the transmute station makes me fell a bit dizzy......

Sylvermynx

Matchimus wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Don't ride a bear mount. For some reason- the animation of that movement makes me cringe. All other mount animations are fine and I think senches/wolves are the most fluid.

Uh. Camels too.... Wolves are hard on me though not as bad as bears and camels. Cats are fine. The word "fluid" defines cats....

Tyvm. Yep camels are out too. I like your description with cats as 'fluid'.

Yah, try to get cats as much as you can. I've been VERY lucky with crate buys, lots of cats. Horses are fine too - but as a horsewoman IRL... well, ZOS didn't do horses a favor in this game. *sigh* I like the "slimmer" ones, but the draft horse look? Nope.

N00BxV1

I don't know of any items that directly cause motion sickness or vertigo, but I do get it a lot from the lag spikes and wonky camera. I can't spend much time in zones like Shadowfen and Murkmire because the motion lag just makes me sick eventually. I also disable all effects like head bobbing, screen shake, motion blur, distortion, etc.

But if you have sensitive hearing then there is a non-combat pet, the Ancestor Moth (don't know exact name), that unless they fixed it has a really high-pitched screeching sound, kind of like the sound of machining metal with no lubricant. I had to stop using this pet because it would eventually give me a headache just from the sound of it.

Sylvermynx

N00BxV1 wrote: »

I don't know of any items that directly cause motion sickness or vertigo, but I do get it a lot from the lag spikes and wonky camera. I can't spend much time in zones like Shadowfen and Murkmire because the motion lag just makes me sick eventually. I also disable all effects like head bobbing, screen shake, motion blur, distortion, etc.

But if you have sensitive hearing then there is a non-combat pet, the Ancestor Moth (don't know exact name), that unless they fixed it has a really high-pitched screeching sound, kind of like the sound of machining metal with no lubricant. I had to stop using this pet because it would eventually give me a headache just from the sound of it.

I use the moth swarm on a couple of characters - haven't ever noticed that (not even since I got an upgraded much better headset). Are you sure it's the moths and not some other pet around you?

Now I never play in first person, so I haven't ever expected the head-bob stuff (which is FP only IIRC) to help me at all. Is there somewhere else to disable head bob for 3rd person? I have disable screen shake (good LORD why do games even include that?) - but not sure where to find motion blur or distortion.

Tasear

First person view is not advisable if you get virtual motion sickness. That's what does it for me.

My suggestion try lowering settings and look away from computer or system every 30 mins.

Sylvermynx

Tasear wrote: »

First person view is not advisable if you get virtual motion sickness.

Yup. That's a given. Fortunately I don't LIKE FP view, so I'm never tempted. That would be an invitation to disaster.

Tasear

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

First person view is not advisable if you get virtual motion sickness.

Yup. That's a given. Fortunately I don't LIKE FP view, so I'm never tempted. That would be an invitation to disaster.

Vitural reality games will have to work on this issue once they hit mainstream.

Sylvermynx

Tasear wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

First person view is not advisable if you get virtual motion sickness.

Yup. That's a given. Fortunately I don't LIKE FP view, so I'm never tempted. That would be an invitation to disaster.

Vitural reality games will have to work on this issue once they hit mainstream.

I'll never buy/play a VR game. Speaking of invitations to disaster.

Electric_Pickle

I've jumped off steep hills on my mount and experienced vertigo. That stuff can really mess with you

N00BxV1

Sylvermynx wrote: »

N00BxV1 wrote: »

I don't know of any items that directly cause motion sickness or vertigo, but I do get it a lot from the lag spikes and wonky camera. I can't spend much time in zones like Shadowfen and Murkmire because the motion lag just makes me sick eventually. I also disable all effects like head bobbing, screen shake, motion blur, distortion, etc.

But if you have sensitive hearing then there is a non-combat pet, the Ancestor Moth (don't know exact name), that unless they fixed it has a really high-pitched screeching sound, kind of like the sound of machining metal with no lubricant. I had to stop using this pet because it would eventually give me a headache just from the sound of it.

I use the moth swarm on a couple of characters - haven't ever noticed that (not even since I got an upgraded much better headset). Are you sure it's the moths and not some other pet around you?

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I'm absolutely 1000% certain it's the Moth's sound effect. If you turn off the game music then it's even more noticeable. And I just checked in-game and the sound effect has not changed since this recording. Here is a video of it that I recorded to post in another discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov2AiZAV58g

Like nails down a chalk board...