ZOS makes ridiculous changes to lube the forums for the real changes
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Hard to believe people working on a game as a full time job are so incompetent to understand broken mechanics in their own game. But I can sympathize with them, as the forum community is not always objective with nerfs and buffs. Most people in this forum count buffs/nerfs by patch rather than the intensity. 2 small nerf over 2 patches is presumably a bigger nerf for the forum community rather than 1 standalone major nerf.
Likewise there is minimal nuance from the forumers for what a nerf or buff entails. There are multiple playstyle and gamemodes in this game, and some adjustments exclusively target a specific gamemode on a specific playstyle. But ever so often, even the most nuanced changes are received as a binary nerf or buff to the class.
"Last thing class X needs is more buffs." - Forum Quote I remember for niche buff not effecting mainstream gameplay in any meaningful way
ZOS is smart. They're lubing up the community for the actual changes that will show up next patch.
1s cast time on shields was ridiculous for even people strongly biased against magicka specs. However it had a very desireable effect on the forum community. Before Murkmire, the community was not even considering a nerf to shields (at least in PVE). But as soon as they proposed a 1s cast time, all of a sudden there was a consensus in the forum that shields needed nerfing and they willingly accepted the nerfs shields got.
"It took thousands of people to make ZOS overcome the shield changes" - Paraphrased Forum Quote (lol)
The incap changes proposed in patch 5.0.3 will never make it to live. ZOS is just lubing up the hard-headed forum community, just like they did with the shield changes. By the end of this week there will be consensus among forumers that nightblades are OP, more specifically incap is an OP ability that needs nerfing (even though the forum community was not even talking about this the past 2 weeks). Then whatever change (cough *nerf* cough) they do to incap, the community will gladly accept.
I bet by next week, the silence will be reduced to 1 second, which will realistically be inconsequential for any build, magicka or stamina. This would practically leave incap without stun or defile, but the forum community will be happy as ever, believing they got ZOS to overturn an OP mechanic and "bringing nightblades back in balance".
P.S: Yes it got a sustain buff, which will more or less be a slightly weaker minor endurance.
Edited by likecats on May 8, 2019 2:48AM Likewise there is minimal nuance from the forumers for what a nerf or buff entails. There are multiple playstyle and gamemodes in this game, and some adjustments exclusively target a specific gamemode on a specific playstyle. But ever so often, even the most nuanced changes are received as a binary nerf or buff to the class.
"Last thing class X needs is more buffs." - Forum Quote I remember for niche buff not effecting mainstream gameplay in any meaningful way
ZOS is smart. They're lubing up the community for the actual changes that will show up next patch.
1s cast time on shields was ridiculous for even people strongly biased against magicka specs. However it had a very desireable effect on the forum community. Before Murkmire, the community was not even considering a nerf to shields (at least in PVE). But as soon as they proposed a 1s cast time, all of a sudden there was a consensus in the forum that shields needed nerfing and they willingly accepted the nerfs shields got.
"It took thousands of people to make ZOS overcome the shield changes" - Paraphrased Forum Quote (lol)
The incap changes proposed in patch 5.0.3 will never make it to live. ZOS is just lubing up the hard-headed forum community, just like they did with the shield changes. By the end of this week there will be consensus among forumers that nightblades are OP, more specifically incap is an OP ability that needs nerfing (even though the forum community was not even talking about this the past 2 weeks). Then whatever change (cough *nerf* cough) they do to incap, the community will gladly accept.
I bet by next week, the silence will be reduced to 1 second, which will realistically be inconsequential for any build, magicka or stamina. This would practically leave incap without stun or defile, but the forum community will be happy as ever, believing they got ZOS to overturn an OP mechanic and "bringing nightblades back in balance".
P.S: Yes it got a sustain buff, which will more or less be a slightly weaker minor endurance.
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ilcavallo✭✭✭Somewhere in Vivec there is a large zerg of stamblades relentlessly spamming cloak and one shotting everyone. I haven't ran into them over the last couple years, but surely they exist after reading the countless triggered responses to pts notes on this forum.0 -
Jabassa✭✭✭As someone who doesn't play a stamblade but has lost to many of them,I think incap should have just been left alone, same with surprise attack, from where it was in wrathstone. From a PvP (all I do really) standpoint, the NB got ruined this time around.
And let's not forget how no one is talking about how strong the necromancer is... which still needs a lot of work before live0 -
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