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NB balancing is overshadowing Necromancer

Althorn
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All of these NB balance changes are overshadowing the work needed on Necromancer. No changes were made this patch for Necro and it seems like an unfinished class. I don't understand how we can have a brand new class entering the game extremely soon and yet the sweeping changes we are looking out for are going to the wrong class.

I also feel like the developers should treat the class representative program with more seriousness in light of these changes, as the reps were obviously not informed or consulted with prior to current patch notes. If they were, we wouldn't need this discussion because the class reps have solid advice to give and voice their opinions in the discords daily.

*Please don't turn this into an incap discussion so they keep this open*
  • Iskiab
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    Class rep? Solid advice? Where?
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  • Althorn
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Class rep? Solid advice? Where?

    They have a lot to say about these patch notes that's for sure.
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    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.
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    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
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    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls

    I went back and checked YouTube and within 1 minute found there still people doing 99- 100k after 5.0.1 where pets were fixed.

    Explain to me exactly how that’s spreading bs

    Edited by spacebandit on May 7, 2019 10:52PM
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    NB balancing is overshadowing everything else not just necro.
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    Isn’t the main balance guy a nightblade main? That would explain a whole lot.
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    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls
    What do you think needs to be changed for PvE if the bugs were already fixed two weeks ago?

    I actually think the OP may be talking about how bad Magicka Necromancer's offense is in PvP, and how the corpse mechanic feels pretty clumsy and difficult to use effectively in its current iteration.
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    wheem_ESO wrote: »
    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls
    What do you think needs to be changed for PvE if the bugs were already fixed two weeks ago?

    I actually think the OP may be talking about how bad Magicka Necromancer's offense is in PvP, and how the corpse mechanic feels pretty clumsy and difficult to use effectively in its current iteration.
    I could care less about the Necro right now and am more displeased with the nightblade tunnel vision.
    I didn’t mention nightblade because I wanted to keep this discussion on on necromancers and the last time I gave a crap to check they were over performing.

    I don’t care if they are top or mid but all the information I knew was they were to well off. Every class needs to be within 5-10% of each other in my vision.

    If the corpse mechanic is clumsy in pvp that doesn’t surprise me. I assume it’s easy readable and dodge able. But I will wait till live to do my testing.
    Edited by spacebandit on May 7, 2019 10:23PM
  • Althorn
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    [/quote]
    What do you think needs to be changed for PvE if the bugs were already fixed two weeks ago?

    I actually think the OP may be talking about how bad Magicka Necromancer's offense is in PvP, and how the corpse mechanic feels pretty clumsy and difficult to use effectively in its current iteration.[/quote]


    Yeah that's a big one for sure. Blastbones application compared to Warden shalks is much less effective, especially after the nerfs to it. That is aside from the bugs with its path finding and other functions. As a dmg ability with around the same tool tip minus the range % damage increase as shalks, i'd much rather it be a non target pet with no health and compromise with less damage in order to at least be able to apply the damage as reliable as warden does. Otherwise for similar aoe dmg i'll stick to warden and avoid that mess.
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    Does the Blastbones summon inherit armor res and impen? If not, yeah that's excessively wimpy and in dire need of help.
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    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls

    I went back and checked YouTube and within 1 minute found there still people doing 99- 100k after 5.0.1 where pets were fixed.

    You know 500k DPS mag dk also happened on PTS ?
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls

    I went back and checked YouTube and within 1 minute found there still people doing 99- 100k after 5.0.1 where pets were fixed.

    You know 500k DPS mag dk also happened on PTS ?
    but not after it was fixed. Necro was fixed then still doing them numbers. All it takes is a little research

    I actually found the dk bug funny and heard someone got like. 2 million dps

    Edited by spacebandit on May 7, 2019 10:59PM
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    Althorn wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Class rep? Solid advice? Where?

    They have a lot to say about these patch notes that's for sure.

    For Nightblades they been doing great job. Now just fix ever class just like that.
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    Necro atm feels very much unfinished and nightblade is getting buffs it didn't need it feels like they spend more time worrying about nightblade than the brand new class that isn't anywhere near it needs tobe
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls

    I went back and checked YouTube and within 1 minute found there still people doing 99- 100k after 5.0.1 where pets were fixed.

    You know 500k DPS mag dk also happened on PTS ?
    but not after it was fixed. Necro was fixed then still doing them numbers. All it takes is a little research

    I actually found the dk bug funny and heard someone got like. 2 million dps

    I havnt seen 100k+ solo necromancer parses after it was fixed. And I am talking about real parses not lava foot ones.
    Edited by Juhasow on May 8, 2019 1:55AM
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls

    I went back and checked YouTube and within 1 minute found there still people doing 99- 100k after 5.0.1 where pets were fixed.

    You know 500k DPS mag dk also happened on PTS ?
    but not after it was fixed. Necro was fixed then still doing them numbers. All it takes is a little research

    I actually found the dk bug funny and heard someone got like. 2 million dps

    This is all month-old news, bro.
  • spacebandit
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls

    I went back and checked YouTube and within 1 minute found there still people doing 99- 100k after 5.0.1 where pets were fixed.

    You know 500k DPS mag dk also happened on PTS ?
    but not after it was fixed. Necro was fixed then still doing them numbers. All it takes is a little research

    I actually found the dk bug funny and heard someone got like. 2 million dps

    This is all month-old news, bro.
    I didn’t bring it up either, so what’s your point?

    Edited by spacebandit on May 8, 2019 4:56AM
  • spacebandit
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    mcagatayg wrote: »
    I agree I been watching videos of 100k stamcros which is 10k above the rest of the classes. But no let’s change some more nightblade crap.

    It was doing 100k cuz it was bugged, now its around other classes. Stop spreading bull *** around.
    It ain’t bull *** if it happened. I’m glad they fixed it then but you’re attitude sucks donkey balls

    I went back and checked YouTube and within 1 minute found there still people doing 99- 100k after 5.0.1 where pets were fixed.

    You know 500k DPS mag dk also happened on PTS ?
    but not after it was fixed. Necro was fixed then still doing them numbers. All it takes is a little research

    I actually found the dk bug funny and heard someone got like. 2 million dps

    I havnt seen 100k+ solo necromancer parses after it was fixed. And I am talking about real parses not lava foot ones.
    Almost all the parses I have looked at, people been using lava foot For every class. At least that part is consistent



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