Its not too late to implement raids....

Valamaar

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

UPrime

12 man raids already exist and have for a while.

Xarc

It's ESO, not WOW.

zaria

UPrime wrote: »

12 man raids already exist and have for a while.

ESO has the 3 craglorn raids, MOL and HOF, it also has two mini raids, it get an new full raid with next expansion.
They are called trials for some reason.

Fleshreaper

I think they were talking about taking longer to complete.

LiquidPony

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

IMO multi-hour raids would be an absolute nightmare in this game.

This isn't slow, cooldown-based combat like WoW. During an ESO raid you are performing actions nonstop for the duration. My fingers would fall off if I had to do that for 2+ hours straight.

Skwor

Game already has raids

RogueShark

I feel like WoW works better with the longer raid model because they typically have only one, maybe two, relevant raids at a time. ESO trials remain relevant years later for gear and, somewhat, with difficulty.

It's nice in ESO to not have to dedicate several hours a week to a single raid clear (unless you're progging).

UPrime

Progression raids are also closely tied to gearing and seasons. Where there is a clear BiS sets. ESO tries to not to do that. At least make it a little less obvious. Instead option for adding choices and not make other thing irrelevant.

zaria

LiquidPony wrote: »

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

IMO multi-hour raids would be an absolute nightmare in this game.

This isn't slow, cooldown-based combat like WoW. During an ESO raid you are performing actions nonstop for the duration. My fingers would fall off if I had to do that for 2+ hours straight.

Pug vMoL or even lots of nHoF pugs
Has had an series of multi hours dungeon clears.
Now let us discus vMA

RebornV3x

I would like to 24 man trials but I don't think the game can handle that

idk

UPrime wrote: »

12 man raids already exist and have for a while.

Yes, The first two were added less than 2 months after the game was launched.

RebornV3x wrote: »

I would like to 24 man trials but I don't think the game can handle that

Yea, the game would not be able to handle that well. It also does not really serve any purpose other than to have a larger group for the sake of it can causes more work to organize.

kathandira

Aside from the already mentioned fact that Raids exist in ESO. I would like to see longer ones. Some Dungeons and longer than some Trials. I'm hoping Sunspire fills that need.

david_m_18b16_ESO

LiquidPony wrote: »

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

IMO multi-hour raids would be an absolute nightmare in this game.
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Multiple hours raid are an absolute nightmare in every game.
I can't wait to be skillfull enough to get on ESO trials. Now if I could resist the urge to roll a Necro, it would help me.

rotaugen454

I want a raid that I can solo in less than 30 seconds and that drops BIS gear. Is that too much to ask?

LonePirate

Fleshreaper wrote: »

I think they were talking about taking longer to complete.

If that’s the issue, then run it with pugs. That will increase the completion time.

DenMoria

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

There are so many raids now and other wastes of time, why would we want more?

kathandira

Aside from the already mentioned fact that Raids exist in ESO. I would like to see longer ones. Some Dungeons and longer than some Trials. I'm hoping Sunspire fills that need.

rotaugen454 wrote: »

I want a raid that I can solo in less than 30 seconds and that drops BIS gear. Is that too much to ask?

Get like REALLY REALLY good and vMA. ; )

Goregrinder

OP is definitely trolling us.

Grandma

someone hasn't done vhof.

raids are way more attention and skill intensive in this game than most games. you don't just proc stuff off cooldown. your rotation is constantly dynamic, you have to pay attention to mechanics and a crap ton of other stuff while weaving and maximizing dps / heals / tanking. If you had to do that for 4 or 5 hours you'd die.

Paazhahdrimaak

DenMoria wrote: »

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

There are so many raids now and other wastes of time, why would we want more?

@DenMoria

It all makes since why you are so salty and angry and dont enjoy this game. You play on Playstation. Im sorry dude

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

You haven't said why you want this grind-fest crap in this game.

ArchMikem

LiquidPony wrote: »

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

IMO multi-hour raids would be an absolute nightmare in this game.

This isn't slow, cooldown-based combat like WoW. During an ESO raid you are performing actions nonstop for the duration. My fingers would fall off if I had to do that for 2+ hours straight.

Everyone has to get up periodically for reasons while playing and Trials already require a long duration of 100% attention. My first Trial runs where it took nearly two hours were brutal, I was literally shaking at the end of Vet Aetherian Archive. So a Trial that lasts for like, 4+ hours? I'd never even bother.

zaria

kathandira wrote: »

Aside from the already mentioned fact that Raids exist in ESO. I would like to see longer ones. Some Dungeons and longer than some Trials. I'm hoping Sunspire fills that need.

As I understand its MoL length, however all the bosses has an HM option who is pretty genius.

pod88kk

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

Oh look a wow refugee

Riejael

Xarcus wrote: »

It's ESO, not WOW.

WoW doesn't do this either.

No MMO currently offers long duration raids.

Nemesis7884

Long raids dont work the way eso is set up i think
Trials are completed - if not even farmed - repeatedly to collect gear which as others have stated keeps them relevant for a long time... even long dungeons become very tiresome if you are farming for gear...

ATomiX96

ESO doesnt have Lockouts (kinda like savegames for dungeons and raids) therefore the dungeons and raids have to be shorter to be finished in one sitting (unless you let someone idle with a move macro in the instance to artificially save progress, that method was used in early mol days on rakkhat progress).

FierceSam

OP is wrong

1 trials/raids already exist, some are long, some are shorter

2 while there is a vocal demand for high end content, by its very definition it is only undertaken by a fraction of the playerbase and successfully completed at the highest level by even fewer players

3 if there was demand you would have no problem filling trial groups. The fact you can’t always fill them challenges the notion that there is the demand the OP refers to

While I like trials, I understand that there are probably way more players who will do the quest based storyline and nothing else, than will ever do trials. In concentrating on this, ZOS is simply giving the playerbase what they want.

Sorry you’re leaving, can I have your stuff?

Unit117

LiquidPony wrote: »

Valamaar wrote: »

I would sub to ESO till the death of the game if this game had long raids and raid bosses. I would also be willing to pay 20 a month instead of 15. The lack of this feature is the only reason I discontinued my sub as quick as it began.

IMO multi-hour raids would be an absolute nightmare in this game.

This isn't slow, cooldown-based combat like WoW. During an ESO raid you are performing actions nonstop for the duration. My fingers would fall off if I had to do that for 2+ hours straight.

Honestly I wish esos combat was slower. It’s super immersion breaking and too Arcadian like for my taste. I would like to too see stronger and more intersting abilities being used more spaced then spamming a big mash of stuff together

Sylvermynx

Seriously, multi-hour raids were a nightmare in WoW and RIFT. I can't even imagine running that sort of stuff in this game.