Is Nirn Flat?

  • Elwendryll
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    Nope. It is not flat. Just like planets, including earth, in real life.

    Nirn looks really small if tamriel is that side. I always imagined that Tamriel was just a small part, like, I don't know... Australia? Not Eurasia xD
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    Elwendryll wrote: »
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    Nope. It is not flat. Just like planets, including earth, in real life.

    Nirn looks really small if tamriel is that side. I always imagined that Tamriel was just a small part, like, I don't know... Australia? Not Eurasia xD

    Nirn isnt that big. other side of the picture there you have akavir. Which in itself is around same size as tamriel.
  • TheShadowScout
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    You know what else is as flat as nirn? Tennis balls!
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    :p;):trollface:

    Lorewise though, Nirn is a globular object, as seen by the shape of the shadows on the moons.
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    And that is one of my favorite unofficial depictions of it! (mostly because it really looks neat!)
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    This is another nice one.

    Also, generally the scholars of nirn have other worries then discussing the shape of their world, or if turtles are involved (Sorry A'tuin!) - after all, they have daedric mysteries and the secrets of the magna-re to ponder instead! ;)
  • Thevampirenight
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    Well the way they have to scale it down in later games. Makes it seem small but it would really be a lot bigger I think. More like it was in daggerfall. But I think earth might be bigger then Nirn. Possibly Nirn might be a bit smaller then earth but I imagine they are almost the same size. Just the way they have done it in later games makes it seem like its a lot smaller and the way they have to scale it down in eso makes it really seem small. But it would be a lot bigger realistically.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on May 7, 2019 1:41PM
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  • arena25
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    Oh, boy...here we go again...

    I see the Flat Earth Society has infiltrated the ESO forums...

    While we wait for the Flat Earth Society to share the same fate as the Society of the Dragon...allow me to share a PG-rated music video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZgPGMfUVek

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  • ZonasArch
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    FakeZavos wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    FakeZavos wrote: »
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    Just like earth, I think. That's what the good science tells us anyway.

    So its flat? :kappa:

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  • kathandira
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    FakeZavos wrote: »
    Nirn is flat. If curvature is real (its not), then how come dwemer can dig straight tunnels?

    #FlatNirnSociety

    https://imgur.com/a/Y8NwODG


    Welcome to the Flat Nirn Society, otherwise known as The FNS.

    This website is dedicated to unravelling the true mysteries of the universe and demonstrating that Nirn is flat and that Round Nirn doctrine is little more than an elaborate hoax.

    The Flat Nirn Society holds that there is a difference between believing and knowing. If you don't know something, and cannot demonstrate it by first principles, then you shouldn't believe it. We must, at the very least, know exactly how conclusions were made about the world, and the strengths and weaknesses behind those deductions. Our society emphasizes the demonstration and explanation of knowledge.

    Flat Nirn Theory has grown over the centuries like a wondering sojourner hungry for truth and eager for discovery. It’s changed from the learned conjectures by our ancestors of Antiquity to Victorian polymaths like Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham, and it even thrives today in a world-wide grassroots effort of scholarship. As people walked through the ages collecting data and knowledge, the Flat Nirn Theory walked with them, growing wise and robust in kind.

    Reported for spreading conspiracy theories.

    j/k ; )
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Well I guess Im a Flat Nirner now.
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  • olesmo
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    im glad ppl see nirn as flat as i do
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    It's actually on the head of a pin.
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  • FakeZavos
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    zavos was your forum account hacked? what happend? :open_mouth:

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  • TheShadowScout
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    arena25 wrote: »
    I see the Flat Earth Society has infiltrated the ESO forums...
    Well, you DO know they have a lot of members... you could almost say...
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    Oh. OH! They said it already! :p;):trollface:
  • Hippie4927
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    arena25 wrote: »
    I see the Flat Earth Society has infiltrated the ESO forums...
    Well, you DO know they have a lot of members... you could almost say...
    DsYorjfU8AAxQDs.jpg
    Oh. OH! They said it already! :p;):trollface:

    Thanks for a good laugh! I would love to see the comments on that post!
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  • Dojohoda
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    No, only Queen Ayrenn's head is flat.
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  • Recremen
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    Flat, round, or otherwise, the REAL questions why is Nirn so THIN?? We walk around on the skin of the world that barely keeps us from falling into the fleshless chasm below. And sometimes that barrier fails.
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  • Recremen
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    You know what else is as flat as nirn? Tennis balls!
    i-dont-know-how-to-put-this-but-we-have-43137905.png
    :p;):trollface:

    Lorewise though, Nirn is a globular object, as seen by the shape of the shadows on the moons.
    ajA9oAG_700b.jpg
    And that is one of my favorite unofficial depictions of it! (mostly because it really looks neat!)
    EIGHTS wrote: »
    planet_nirn___geographical__v2__by_hori873-d6h7sh0.png
    This is another nice one.

    Also, generally the scholars of nirn have other worries then discussing the shape of their world, or if turtles are involved (Sorry A'tuin!) - after all, they have daedric mysteries and the secrets of the magna-re to ponder instead! ;)

    Not to pick nits, but the "shadows" on the moons would not be cast by Nirn, if they are in fact shadows at all. If space in the Elder Scrolls lore is like space in the real world, then the majority of shadows cast on any celestial body are self-created, merely being the side facing away from the star they orbit. For our real-life moon, its phases are not dictated by the shadow of the earth, but by the previously-described mechanism. What we see as phases of the moon is just the phenomena of us seeing the moon from an angle where we can see both its sunlit and dark sides simultaneously. In fact, on the rare instance where the earth's shadow does fall on the moon (a lunar eclipse), it doesn't even end up being all that dark, as shown in this total lunar eclipse.

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    There's also the problem with whether or not everything Michael Kirkbride said when he was a developer was canon. Obviously the stuff he wrote afterward is more like "fanon" or "c0da" or whatever the cool kids are calling it these days, but in 1999 while he was still developing and posting on the official forums, he wrote this document, where he describes the planets as not being truly spherical at all, but instead our perception of them as such is, famously, due to "mortal mental stress". He also says the phases of Masser and Secunda are specifically not caused by shadows because "you can see stars through the black patches of the lunar spheres". Of course, in the actual games we do not see said phenomenon. Soooooooo who knows!
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  • tonemd
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    Can we ask the space elves?
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    tonemd wrote: »
    Can we ask the space elves?

    Aurmer?
  • Goregrinder
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    How else would blades be able to do 15% more damage? Because the blade is flatter, just like Nirn.
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    FakeZavos wrote: »
    Nirn is flat. If curvature is real (its not), then how come dwemer can dig straight tunnels?

    #FlatNirnSociety

    https://imgur.com/a/Y8NwODG


    Welcome to the Flat Nirn Society, otherwise known as The FNS.

    This website is dedicated to unravelling the true mysteries of the universe and demonstrating that Nirn is flat and that Round Nirn doctrine is little more than an elaborate hoax.

    The Flat Nirn Society holds that there is a difference between believing and knowing. If you don't know something, and cannot demonstrate it by first principles, then you shouldn't believe it. We must, at the very least, know exactly how conclusions were made about the world, and the strengths and weaknesses behind those deductions. Our society emphasizes the demonstration and explanation of knowledge.

    Flat Nirn Theory has grown over the centuries like a wondering sojourner hungry for truth and eager for discovery. It’s changed from the learned conjectures by our ancestors of Antiquity to Victorian polymaths like Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham, and it even thrives today in a world-wide grassroots effort of scholarship. As people walked through the ages collecting data and knowledge, the Flat Nirn Theory walked with them, growing wise and robust in kind.

    I'd go so far as to postulate that Nirn is neither flat nor spherical. It is an incorporeal amalgamation of the imaginations of invisible architects manipulating ever shifting universal binary mathematics that can be seen as flowing code when our perception transcends the veneer that is represented to us as "Nirn".
  • WeerW3ir
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    Nirn is not flat. But kinda having a bit too much moon.
    With modern phisics. Its cannot exist. The Tide effect from the moons are kinda making it crazy to live on the planet.

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  • ZonasArch
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    Nirn is flat. FLAT! it's science! I'M GONNA YELL REALLY LOUD SO YOU BELIEVE ME!
  • ArchMikem
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    If the theory that all of Mundus is really just a gigantic Dream of an all powerful being, then Nirn is what the dream dictates it to be. Whatever that happens to be therefore is unknowable, especially since we don't have any Lore records of someone circumnavigating Nirn. Then again that God Head theory really bugs the Hell out of me and I wish it never becomes Canon.

    I love how a joke thread turned into legit discussion.
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  • Hymzir
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    Nonsense, everyone knows Nirn is just like Earth:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fubf81OoIr8

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