Story Skip Token

illutian

Now that Skyshard skipping is coming to the Crown Store....

Can we please, for the love of Vivec, get [at the very least] Tokens that allow us to skip AD Campaign, DC Campaign, EP Campaign (yes, I'll allow 3 tokens instead of 1 to skip the original 'main story'). I really do not want to go through the original content again just to get the 14-ish Skill Points it awards.

Not saying I want a Leveling Token, I'd like to just skip right into the new expansions. - With 'Scaling' you can start a lvl 1 in Morrowind and do just fine and I imagine the soon to be introduced Necromancer will start in Elsweyr, much like the Warden started in Vvarendal (at least that's where mine's parked and I don't recall using a Wayshrine with him...yet).

((14 SP might not seem like much, but that's one full unlock on a weapon/class skill line's active abilities with a couple points left over for that line's passives.))

((I see no reason, to make players redo old content on alts.))

VaranisArano

*Considers requesting Group Dungeon skill point unlocks, Public Dungeon Group Boss skill point unlocks, Alliance War skill point unlocks...*

Wow, this really is about paying not to play the game, isn't it?

mairwen85

Dungeon, overland quests, trials and game skip token.

Vietfox

VaranisArano wrote: »

*Considers requesting Group Dungeon skill point unlocks, Public Dungeon Group Boss skill point unlocks, Alliance War skill point unlocks...*

Wow, this really is about paying not to play the game, isn't it?

As a pvper yeah, i would like to skip everything pve related.

Starlock

VaranisArano wrote: »

*Considers requesting Group Dungeon skill point unlocks, Public Dungeon Group Boss skill point unlocks, Alliance War skill point unlocks...*

Wow, this really is about paying not to play the game, isn't it?

No kidding. It boggles the mind.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

wow...whats gona be asked next?...auto aim and skill cast on GCD?

Universe

Why even to play the game ?
It is free to just uninstall it
You get huge hard drive space by doing so

MakeMeUhSamich

#ClassChange

jircris11

99.99 and the game plays its self!

illutian

lol...I love how people don't get that people play alts and shouldn't be required to replay the same story over and over again. - Yes, eventually offering Tokens to skip Expansion Story Lines.


What they have now, is like forcing yourself to watch Season 1 of a 3 Season series...5 times before you move on to the other seasons.

But, of course, people try 'slippery slope' "arguments".



((BTW: "you people" also pulled this when people asked for Skyshard unlocks. Guess what's coming! ))

Imperial_Voice

illutian wrote: »

lol...I love how people don't get that people play alts and shouldn't be required to replay the same story over and over again. - Yes, eventually offering Tokens to skip Expansion Story Lines.


What they have now, is like forcing yourself to watch Season 1 of a 3 Season series...5 times before you move on to the other seasons.

But, of course, people try 'slippery slope' "arguments".



((BTW: "you people" also pulled this when people asked for Skyshard unlocks. Guess what's coming! ))

Yeah no. That's not whats happening here. What youre asking for isnt a slippery slope to p2w, its the bottom of the slope. Its p2w. Take that *** to one of those free to play anime mmos with the level boosts and the best in slot gear for cash.

VaranisArano

illutian wrote: »

lol...I love how people don't get that people play alts and shouldn't be required to replay the same story over and over again. - Yes, eventually offering Tokens to skip Expansion Story Lines.


What they have now, is like forcing yourself to watch Season 1 of a 3 Season series...5 times before you move on to the other seasons.

But, of course, people try 'slippery slope' "arguments".



((BTW: "you people" also pulled this when people asked for Skyshard unlocks. Guess what's coming! ))

I have lots of Alts. I've had Alt-itis since Skyrim, actually.

In a roleplaying game, much of the enjoyment comes from replaying the same content...as a different character, who does things differently or who thinks differently about the questlines. I've done the same quests on my Vestige and my Silencer for two different experiences.

If that doesn't appeal to you...fine. Roleplaying doesnt appeal to everyone, even in an MMORPG.

I mean, it strikes me a little bit like using console commands to hand your level 1 Skyrim character all the dragon shouts. Fun for a bit, and great way to jump to the "good bits" that you really enjoy. But also skipping large portions of the game under the idea that "Oh, I already did that."

Hymzir

Can i get a token that gives me full achievement points and proclaims that "I won the game!" so that I don't even have to install it?

Seriously though... I understand the frustration of going through the same content on yet another alt, but I cannot understand the mentality of buying content completion. I mean, you still need to level the new character right? So how are you planning on doing that then? Grinding dolmens? Is that any different than rushing through the zone quests? And if you aim to start from the new zone, then what the heck do you need those skill points for? Until you level your skills, you wont have any skill options to use them on anyway. And leveling an extra weapon skill line is certainly gonna take a lot longer than it takes to rush through those zone quest lines.

Why not just ask for the option to start a new character at max level with all the stuff unlocked that your main has? Or an option to start a new character with all the old stuff you've done on other characters already open.

Telling ZOS you are willing to pay money, so that you do not have to do content on a new character, will just encourage them to add more convoluted busy body work like the Psijic skill line, in hopes of offering later a purchasable "solution" to the problem of repeat grinding.

People have been asking for account wide benefits for a long time now - Skyshards was one of those. And now we get them... If we pay a huge wad of cash for every character on which we want use this feature. And while we do not know what the cost is gonna be, based on the fact that it is parceled by zone, and taking ZOS policies on pricing stuff into account, I fully expect it to cost more than the game does. FOR EACH CHARACTER YOU WANT TO USE IT FOR!

I just wish people weren't so eager to proclaim their willingness to pay ZOS extra money to avoid doing bothersome content. I really do not need them introducing even more grindy nonsense into this game, and then "letting me pay extra later to avoid doing it again."

So instead of telling you are willing to pay for the privilege of skipping content, how about telling ZOS that you do not find the content entertaining enough to repeat, and they should consider making it less annoying for veteran players to complete a second time, and thus increase the chances of keeping you as a repeating customer and subber to the game.

sionIV

That moment when you can't decipher if the person is sarcastic/trolling or serious.

Royaji

VaranisArano wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

lol...I love how people don't get that people play alts and shouldn't be required to replay the same story over and over again. - Yes, eventually offering Tokens to skip Expansion Story Lines.


What they have now, is like forcing yourself to watch Season 1 of a 3 Season series...5 times before you move on to the other seasons.

But, of course, people try 'slippery slope' "arguments".



((BTW: "you people" also pulled this when people asked for Skyshard unlocks. Guess what's coming! ))

I have lots of Alts. I've had Alt-itis since Skyrim, actually.

In a roleplaying game, much of the enjoyment comes from replaying the same content...as a different character, who does things differently or who thinks differently about the questlines. I've done the same quests on my Vestige and my Silencer for two different experiences.

If that doesn't appeal to you...fine. Roleplaying doesnt appeal to everyone, even in an MMORPG.

I mean, it strikes me a little bit like using console commands to hand your level 1 Skyrim character all the dragon shouts. Fun for a bit, and great way to jump to the "good bits" that you really enjoy. But also skipping large portions of the game under the idea that "Oh, I already did that."

If ESO had legit roleplaying it would've been a decent argument. But let's be honest here, ESO is a themepark MMO. You don't really have choices in the storyline. A couple of dialogue lines, a couple of spare/kill this NPC-you-don't-care-about-and-will-never-see-again choices and that's about it. If there was a legit way to play those stories differently it would make sense but there isn't. The end result is always pretty much the same.

It's made even worse by the fact that story might feel fresh and engaging on your first character when you have minimal knowledge about game mechanics but it becomes a pure fetch errand on an alt where killing mighty bosses-that-threaten-the-whole-tamriel under 10 seconds is the norm.

And let's be honest, ESO has decent story for an MMO but not something you'd want to replay 3-4 times in one year.

I was and still am against "skyshards unlock on alts". But if we have already gone this way might as well let people skip story quests on alts too. Not like it matters that much anymore.

MaleAmazon

I'd be fine if they allowed you to skip the speeches, or removed the 'unkillable' tag from the prophet..

Step into my mind, vestige....

AAARGH.

Seriously though, it's no biggie to speedrun the main story. Craft training gear, buy bag space, melt through it in 3 days (incl alliance quests). Though I wouldn't mind it being skippable while getting the SPs It *is* only a chore once done.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Am I the only one who enjoys playing the stories multiple times?

Rawkan

Why even play the game? Just sell a token that levels you to max and gives you BiS gear.

Ydrisselle

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Am I the only one who enjoys playing the stories multiple times?

Nope.

VaranisArano

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Am I the only one who enjoys playing the stories multiple times?

Nope.

I do like finding odd perspectives to play them, though.

Roleplaying a necromancer through the old questlines and trying to make them make sense should be fascinating. Because it doesnt make sense, not at all, and the cognitive dissonance makes for some storytelling in my imagination.

craybest

but now that we have one tamriel you can go pretty much everywhere whenever you want, no? you odn't need to do any quests you don't want to, or am i missing something?

myskyrim26

This DOES make sense. I'm a lore-fan, yet I don't want to do AD story once more on my Khajiit alt. I did it. I don't want to do it again. At least one MMO known to me has such an option. A paid one.

Also, a token to REDO stories. I would love to do Murkmire again, yet I don't want to level a new alt for it. I did it with my CP altmer, and I'd say that some bosses were tough. For a low level alt, would they be possible at all?

CMDR_Un1k0rn

craybest wrote: »

but now that we have one tamriel you can go pretty much everywhere whenever you want, no? you odn't need to do any quests you don't want to, or am i missing something?

I'd wager that OP puts focus on the skill points that can only be gotten from playing the three alliance quests.

Ydrisselle

craybest wrote: »

but now that we have one tamriel you can go pretty much everywhere whenever you want, no? you odn't need to do any quests you don't want to, or am i missing something?

If you don't do the quests, you don't get the skill points tied to those quests. Just like if you don't do dungeons, you definitely won't get the skill points for the dungeon quests; and if you don't PvP, you won't get the skill points for PvP ranks.

Most MMOs have skippable story elements, because your progression isn't tied to these kind of skill points, or you would get them automatically as you level up - but not in ESO. You want skill points... you have to finish the story quests of the zones, grab the skyshards, kill the group bosses in public dungeons and finish the story quest in dungeons. Which means you have to grind all of the content over and over. For some people it's unacceptable, and for others it's enjoyable (I'm in this group). Asking for a paid option to skip them is not that much different than a levelling token in WoW. There are many things to learn about a new class/playstyle even if you unlocked these points effortlessly.

VaranisArano

craybest wrote: »

but now that we have one tamriel you can go pretty much everywhere whenever you want, no? you odn't need to do any quests you don't want to, or am i missing something?

You don't have to do quests to level up, but certain quests grant skill points for doing them.

Hence the posts sarcastically asking for crown store unlocks for everything else that grants skill points for doing them.

I mean, I've got a PVP August Palatine. Should I be able to buy those skill points on another character? What about all those skill points I got from defeating Public Dungeon group bosses?

Gythral

Dont know about skip the story,
but can I have some:
feed the hamster some speed tokens
hamster do MY biding tokens
wake a spare hamster
etc..

BlueRaven

I would like emperorship sold on the crown store. Can we make that happen as well?

worrallj

VaranisArano wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

lol...I love how people don't get that people play alts and shouldn't be required to replay the same story over and over again. - Yes, eventually offering Tokens to skip Expansion Story Lines.


What they have now, is like forcing yourself to watch Season 1 of a 3 Season series...5 times before you move on to the other seasons.

But, of course, people try 'slippery slope' "arguments".



((BTW: "you people" also pulled this when people asked for Skyshard unlocks. Guess what's coming! ))

I have lots of Alts. I've had Alt-itis since Skyrim, actually.

In a roleplaying game, much of the enjoyment comes from replaying the same content...as a different character, who does things differently or who thinks differently about the questlines. I've done the same quests on my Vestige and my Silencer for two different experiences.

If that doesn't appeal to you...fine. Roleplaying doesnt appeal to everyone, even in an MMORPG.

I mean, it strikes me a little bit like using console commands to hand your level 1 Skyrim character all the dragon shouts. Fun for a bit, and great way to jump to the "good bits" that you really enjoy. But also skipping large portions of the game under the idea that "Oh, I already did that."

I would agree with this, I've always had pretty bad alt-itis too. Except the mmo theme-park gives very little opportuntity for personalized experience. Even though you might have some different head cannon, for the most part your just repeating the identical quests identically. You need a seriously vivid imagination or replaying on Alts gets quite boring after a couple times.

That's why I've finally decided to stop making alts... No necromancer, nothing. Just my main Templar. Get him through the solo content so I can get the gist of their pre-packaged story then on to content that is actually a little dynamic, like pvp and trials and stuff.

worrallj

For alts you don't need nearly as many skill points. Most people only have one main that actually unlocks more or less everything.

Alts don't really need to unlock the full crafting trees, for instance. That's a lot of freed up skill points.

If you get an alt to 50 and do a DLC or two of quests plus a few dungeons, I think you should be good to go for what an alt needs

Aulus_Claudius

I could get behind an account-wide upgrade to synchronize any skill points or PvP/guild ranks earned for all characters to reduce the grind. Fulfilling the prerequisite again on that character would then bring no reward. This would allow you to still play the stories or dungeon quests if you wanted to do so without losing out on skill points in the meantime. I would definitely buy a 5k+ crown upgrade each for skyshards, skill points, and PvP/guild ranks to make them account-wide. Having to pay less on a per-character basis, however, would spoil the deal and I probably wouldn't buy a single one.

Skogsalf

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Am I the only one who enjoys playing the stories multiple times?

No, you`re not