Assassins will change, be consistent

Scarpion

Whenever a crystal frag is procced magicka sorcerer should receive 15% damage mitigation until the frag is fired.

Zos want to be consistent, I think this is a good change.

Nerftheforums

I'd rather have my damage skills deal damage and my tanking skills allow me to tank. Nbs have more direct mitigation than dks + more mobility and cloak. Devs are crawling in the dark on this class, completely.
When I heard on eso live "nbs have issues mitigating damage" I started laughing like a ***. The only issues you have surviving on a nb is either on magnb, issue that has more or less been addressed with snare removal, or if you are new to the class. It's crazy how distached developers can be from their game. I am so surprised, patch after patch...

Scarpion

Nerftheforums wrote: »

I'd rather have my damage skills deal damage and my tanking skills allow me to tank. Nbs have more direct mitigation than dks + more mobility and cloak. Devs are crawling in the dark on this class, completely.
When I heard on eso live "nbs have issues mitigating damage" I started laughing like a ***. The only issues you have surviving on a nb is either on magnb, issue that has more or less been addressed with snare removal, or if you are new to the class. It's crazy how distached developers can be from their game. I am so surprised, patch after patch...

I agree but after reading changes like this, I may as well complain about consistency and have my own class buffed because they are delusional enough to do this in the first place. Reminds me of cast time on shields and coag scaling off of missing mag.

ccmedaddy

Nah. Grim Focus takes an extra GCD + mag or stam in order to activate while frags simply need to be slotted. It makes sense for Grim Focus to have an additional effect.

Also, as someone who's been playing a lot of magsorc this patch, I don't think magsorcs need any buffs whatsoever.

Scarpion

ccmedaddy wrote: »

Nah. Grim Focus takes an extra GCD + mag or stam in order to activate while frags simply need to be slotted. It makes sense for Grim Focus to have an additional effect.

Also, as someone who's been playing a lot of magsorc this patch, I don't think magsorcs need any buffs whatsoever.

That is why i said when it is procced, not when it is slotted. Still costs.

Sorcs need nerfs, specifically to matriach (would need to either buff power surge massively or revert basically raise heal ward back from the dead) and amplitude needs to be halved if not reworked completely. But again, seeing as Zos genuinely believe the assassins will change is a good idea, i may as well post equally stupid ideas.

Somnilux

I am fairly certain this change will be reverted. Really, they just need to make grim focus a passive that gains charges and becomes an active ability. Not having to cast it at all, but being a free firing ability as part of a rotation is more than enough justification, without needing it to pull double duty.

As it is right now, it needs to use 2 GCDs as part of a rotation and costs 1.5x, so they're trying to force another factor onto it, and since NBs don't need more damage they are trying out concepts. However for nightblade healers in pvp (of which I am), I can get 15% passive resistance for 10 minute long fights for a single cast.

I think overall its not going to be useful enough to keep it on nb bars in pve (of which its a central/interesting pve mechanic to build their rotiations around) over shade due to the aforementioned 2x GCDs and cost, and nbs in pve aren't going to care about the % damage reduction at all, while pvp where stamblades where doing really well at ganking they were trying to offer power, where this ability actually feels somewhat balanced and interesting in 1vx or battleground play on a dps. But if you're slotting it to never actually use it, it seems broken and wrong.

Really, it just needs to change in function, only do damage, only take 1 global, only gain charges on the bar its on.

templesus

Lol like sorcs need any more buffs, no thanks.

Marcus_Thracius

iam at a point that when i see some wierd nerf or buff i just say whatever missa dont give a f anymore

Ragnaroek93

It's basically old Shuffle (assuming you have permanent uptime on the stacks and don't use the ability). Don't know if it's good or bad, needs to be tested out. Having a bit more defense on med and light armor Nbs is for sure a good thing since they lost a lot of pressure and need to stay longer in offense now. Not sure how it affects heavy Nbs but heavy stamina is an issue for itself.

I don't know why you are refering to Frags. I know that you somehow want to troll but this is weird as hell.

Royalthought

Are you suggesting that nbs should be able to hard cast the bow?

Sleep724

Where are the class reps for these changes?

Aedaryl

No. Sorc is fine and doesn't need it.

Barbaran

Scarpion wrote: »

Whenever a crystal frag is procced magicka sorcerer should receive 15% damage mitigation until the frag is fired.

Zos want to be consistent, I think this is a good change.

The most over preforming class in the game since launch, the only class that can stack 3 shields that all absorb your characters resistances,needs more damage mitigation?
Gtfoh.
Frags process at least every 3rd cast of an ability and deal almost identical damage to the bow proc.

NyassaV

Frags isn't a mini game

What_In_Tarnation

LordTareq

Scarpion wrote: »

Whenever a crystal frag is procced magicka sorcerer should receive 15% damage mitigation until the frag is fired.

Zos want to be consistent, I think this is a good change.

And then give NB's a low cost class shield and a bunch of exploitable pets that mess up targeting?

killingspreeb16_ESO

Scarpion wrote: »

Whenever a crystal frag is procced magicka sorcerer should receive 15% damage mitigation until the frag is fired.

Zos want to be consistent, I think this is a good change.

Sure because managing a buff,spend a GCD,landing 5 LA and costing more magika is the same as doing your normal rotation and getting a proc.

Magika sorc main's as always their logic is oustanding.

Scarpion

Barbaran wrote: »

Scarpion wrote: »

Whenever a crystal frag is procced magicka sorcerer should receive 15% damage mitigation until the frag is fired.

Zos want to be consistent, I think this is a good change.

The most over preforming class in the game since launch, the only class that can stack 3 shields that all absorb your characters resistances,needs more damage mitigation?
Gtfoh.
Frags process at least every 3rd cast of an ability and deal almost identical damage to the bow proc.

I think you'll find that the class known as stamina nightblade is the most overperforming class in history, top 3 class since 1.6.

Anyway it was a good troll thread, you all got jebaited. Nerf mag sorc, nerf stamdk and revert the stupid change to assassins will.

I even baited my mate @Ragnaroek93 btw.

Katahdin

Scarpion wrote: »

Whenever a crystal frag is procced magicka sorcerer should receive 15% damage mitigation until the frag is fired.

Zos want to be consistent, I think this is a good change.

If you want to be consistent, give assassin's will an immediate insta cast proc after the first proc and 5 light attacks and use of another NB skill. Also require frags to proc the first time after 5 light attacks before getting the insta cast after another sorc skill.

Blinkin8r

Scarpion wrote: »

Whenever a crystal frag is procced magicka sorcerer should receive 15% damage mitigation until the frag is fired.

Zos want to be consistent, I think this is a good change.

If you're seriously asking for more dmg mitigation on a sorc, L2P.