Skoria change

YOB

"Valkyn Skoria: The proc from this item set will now display a ring around the target when it is incoming to improve the clarity of the threat."

Please don't let this go, on live server. The visual animation is simular to meteor's.
At least create a different visual animation.

Edit: Plz if you don't pvp in open world, don't bother to comment or share your opinion in this matter.
Because you clearly have no idea how important it is, to block and ultimate instead of a proc that comes down every 5 secs when you are outnumbered.
Thank you

brandonv516

But is it as slow as Meteor?

I can't see them going back on this - most people don't like proc sets and anything to make them harder to land will be desirable.

I personally thought it was fine but I'll be okay with the changes too.

Davadin

YOB wrote: »

"Valkyn Skoria: The proc from this item set will now display a ring around the target when it is incoming to improve the clarity of the threat."

Please don't let this go, on live server. The visual animation is simular to meteor's.

so?

i dont see a problem.

it's great to see who's the sorry *** on the receiving end, and if i got it, i know something's coming out of the sky, so get that blocking shield up!

does it matter if i cant tell if it's Skoria or Meteor?

jcm2606

Actually, this seems like a little buff in disguise for anybody who can combo with Skoria, mainly and especially DK. Much easier to notice now, so you can stun beforehand to ensure it lands, then combo with it.

cpuScientist

It's orange though a different color right?

Chilly-McFreeze

As a (formerly) avid skoria user I welcome that change. Finally I know who this thing will knock on + it’s fair game for the opponent. Most other procs have visual cues too. Also it might spare this set further nerfs.

Destyran

We don’t need it on console yourcontroller vibrates.

Galarthor

Destyran wrote: »

We don’t need it on console yourcontroller vibrates.

And here I thought the PC players get all the goodies!

YOB

Davadin wrote: »

so?

i dont see a problem.

it's great to see who's the sorry *** on the receiving end, and if i got it, i know something's coming out of the sky, so get that blocking shield up!

does it matter if i cant tell if it's Skoria or Meteor?

Go back to RP, if you don't care to know.

What kind off stupid question is that, "Does it matter if I can't tell if it's skoria or meteor?"
Ofc it matters for pvp players.


Edit:
@evryone
and I'm not saying that the animation indicating the proc should be deleted, I'm just saying that we need an obvious animation proc for skoria that's not the same as meteor.
And yes you can hear meteor sound, but you can't hear a thing when you are getting gangbanged but 5+ ppl.

Zelos

YOB wrote: »

"Valkyn Skoria: The proc from this item set will now display a ring around the target when it is incoming to improve the clarity of the threat."

Please don't let this go, on live server. The visual animation is simular to meteor's.
At least create a different visual animation.

Edit: Plz if you don't pvp in open world, don't bother to comment or share your opinion in this matter.
Because you clearly have no idea how important it is, to block and ultimate instead of a proc that comes down every 5 secs when you are outnumbered.
Thank you

This set should have a illambirs like effect. A aoe of a meteor coming down when it procs on the person like illambris or infernal, what is the point of knowing the threat? To stand by and watch as it hits you because its impossible to not take damage from it? I block skoria for 2.6k. Who cares about the threat when there is no counter play to it.

Chilly-McFreeze

Zelos wrote: »

YOB wrote: »

"Valkyn Skoria: The proc from this item set will now display a ring around the target when it is incoming to improve the clarity of the threat."

Please don't let this go, on live server. The visual animation is simular to meteor's.
At least create a different visual animation.

Edit: Plz if you don't pvp in open world, don't bother to comment or share your opinion in this matter.
Because you clearly have no idea how important it is, to block and ultimate instead of a proc that comes down every 5 secs when you are outnumbered.
Thank you

This set should have a illambirs like effect. A aoe of a meteor coming down when it procs on the person like illambris or infernal, what is the point of knowing the threat? To stand by and watch as it hits you because its impossible to not take damage from it? I block skoria for 2.6k. Who cares about the threat when there is no counter play to it.

Because Block already is a counter? Not everything has to be dodgeable.

frostz417

You know skoria and meteor have 2 different ring colors right?

Baphomet

Ehm, on current live, Skoria is both blockable, dodgeable and cloakable. Same as dragonleap under the right circumstances.

YOB

frostz417 wrote: »

You know skoria and meteor have 2 different ring colors right?

you know that blind color is a thing and also alot of ppl have their game potato mode in cyrolag. The colors are slightly different not clearly visible for some ppl. And in the hit of a fight you don't have the luxury to stop and look at the color of the gosh darn ring.

YOB

Zelos wrote: »

this set should have a illambirs like effect. A aoe of a meteor coming down when it procs on the person like illambris or infernal, what is the point of knowing the threat? To stand by and watch as it hits you because its impossible to not take damage from it? I block skoria for 2.6k. Who cares about the threat when there is no counter play to it.

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TriangularChicken

Baphomet wrote: »

Ehm, on current live, Skoria is both blockable, dodgeable and cloakable. Same as dragonleap under the right circumstances.

Skoria dodgeable? K~~

Zelos

Yes here come all the people who use skoria to defend it. Yet not a actual arguement against me yet, pathetic.

frostz417

YOB wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

You know skoria and meteor have 2 different ring colors right?

you know that blind color is a thing and also alot of ppl have their game potato mode in cyrolag. The colors are slightly different not clearly visible for some ppl. And in the hit of a fight you don't have the luxury to stop and look at the color of the gosh darn ring.

Good point. Maybe they should just make the visual effect different instead of the same ring but different color.

Davadin

YOB wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

so?

i dont see a problem.

it's great to see who's the sorry *** on the receiving end, and if i got it, i know something's coming out of the sky, so get that blocking shield up!

does it matter if i cant tell if it's Skoria or Meteor?

Go back to RP, if you don't care to know.

What kind off stupid question is that, "Does it matter if I can't tell if it's skoria or meteor?"
Ofc it matters for pvp players.


Edit:
@evryone
and I'm not saying that the animation indicating the proc should be deleted, I'm just saying that we need an obvious animation proc for skoria that's not the same as meteor.
And yes you can hear meteor sound, but you can't hear a thing when you are getting gangbanged but 5+ ppl.

you didn't answer me.

why does it matter?

And I'm a PvP player.

Davadin

Zelos wrote: »

Yes here come all the people who use skoria to defend it. Yet not a actual arguement against me yet, pathetic.

defend what???

guys, there's no sarcasm here, but WHY DO WE NEED IT TO BE DIFFERENT THAN METEOR?

WHY?

both says "INCOMING!"....

I'm NOT against it.

I'm not asking it to be removed or have different color or new change is nice. I don't give 2 ***.

I'm just curious why the hell you need it to be different?

ChunkyCat

So you can block.

>,>

Davadin

jcm2606 wrote: »

Actually, this seems like a little buff in disguise for anybody who can combo with Skoria, mainly and especially DK. Much easier to notice now, so you can stun beforehand to ensure it lands, then combo with it.

"to ensure it lands".




tell me: can Skoria miss?

JadonSky

As long as they don't slow it down I don't really care about the ring. I was always surprised it didn't have some type of indicator to be honest. But as long as the animation is still has fast I don't mind.

Davadin

JadonSky wrote: »

As long as they don't slow it down I don't really care about the ring. I was always surprised it didn't have some type of indicator to be honest. But as long as the animation is still has fast I don't mind.

i feel like it's faster now i keep seeing those circles on my enemies...

NordSwordnBoard

Circle for Meteor...

Square for Skoria? Different colors as well?

If anything, the sonic boom is usually what lets me know I'm about to block that incoming meteor. It's also not the only thing I rely on to spot them though, so OP does have a valid point about visuals. Lag can eliminate any or all of the indicators, so keeping things as clear/obvious as possible is better for everyone involved.

Kuramas9tails

Remember when Meteor could be reflected back at you with wings?!

Good times. Too bad they kept nerfing the shet out of it.

Valkysas154

Just more pvp cry babys ruining stuff for pve players the reason i picked this set is since i don't get that stupid red circle
that just don't fit my char at all

TriangularChicken

Valkysas154 wrote: »

Just more pvp cry babys ruining stuff for pve players the reason i picked this set is since i don't get that stupid red circle
that just don't fit my char at all

You're not a PvEr, you're a role player then, in PvE you mainly care about numbers, sets, rotation, buff/debuff up times, etc.

YOB

Davadin wrote: »

you didn't answer me.

why does it matter?

And I'm a PvP player.

I already said in the edit post, why it's important to differentiate the two rings.
when outnumbered you don't get to block more often, and you need to lookout for your stam.

So imagine you are outnumbered and you get low on stam, and there's not much you can block.
And then you got a ring under your feet...

what would you do?

1. Would you block a skoria proc that won't hurt you (as much as meteor would) and waist your stam blocking the proc every 5 or 7 sec and get you killed cuz of not much stam left to CC break from incoming CC.
2. Or ignore the little proc not waisting stam on it and block the incoming meteor that would CC you + could prolly get you killed easily.

It's all about stamina management, and this ring could cause alot of confusion in alot of situation in PVP.

Davadin

YOB wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

you didn't answer me.

why does it matter?

And I'm a PvP player.

I already said in the edit post, why it's important to differentiate the two rings.
when outnumbered you don't get to block more often, and you need to lookout for your stam.

So imagine you are outnumbered and you get low on stam, and there's not much you can block.
And then you got a ring under your feet...

what would you do?

1. Would you block a skoria proc that won't hurt you (as much as meteor would) and waist your stam blocking the proc every 5 or 7 sec and get you killed cuz of not much stam left to CC break from incoming CC.
2. Or ignore the little proc not waisting stam on it and block the incoming meteor that would CC you + could prolly get you killed easily.

It's all about stamina management, and this ring could cause alot of confusion in alot of situation in PVP.

ok, thank you for answering my question.

i'm a stamDK.

there is no difference between a meteor and skoria for me. if i got circle on my feet: hit block.

there's oh so very little cost, and both hurts me kinda as much. stun is not an issue because i can either break free, or i'm already immune from previous stun. CC is the name of the game in Vivec, there's so many that ur mostly running around with immune. also my Rally 2H and/or Escapist pot gives me stun protection anyway.

and they both hurts if i don't block.

but if ur Mag and want to save, then yes, having a different shape/color ring would be nice.

Davadin

YOB wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

you didn't answer me.

why does it matter?

And I'm a PvP player.

I already said in the edit post,

dude, nobody keeps checking the OP. sorry i missed ur edit lol