Stamblade

WickidMexican

Console pleb here. Might be to early to tell but to those that have tested stamblade how much dps are you doing now compared to live? Or about how much dps did you lose? Asking pve wise.

Asmael

How much DPS was lost?

Well, 0 assuming you got your healer and tank doing their job.

WickidMexican

Well if thats the case why are some people saying rip nightblades and all this other nonsense?

Kidgangster101

WickidMexican wrote: »

Console pleb here. Might be to early to tell but to those that have tested stamblade how much dps are you doing now compared to live? Or about how much dps did you lose? Asking pve wise.

NB went from being the top pve DPS to after the "nerfs" still being top from the looks of what people have tested a d what I have seen. It is just closer to the second best now

WickidMexican

So it slightly closed the gap then. I see.

hakan

WickidMexican wrote: »

Well if thats the case why are some people saying rip nightblades and all this other nonsense?

the answer above assumes the boss fight. on adds and most of the boss mechanics wont give a chance to get your berserk/fracture from tank/healer.

and grim focus doesnt really do anything rn.

WickidMexican

Ohhh ok doesnt it out it on par with other classes though? Since most classes dont have access to minor berserk and major fracture? Except warden, they have both.

Well its not like im playing competitive end game but just wanted to know where stamblades are at the moment.

Jagdkommando

WickidMexican wrote: »

Console pleb here. Might be to early to tell but to those that have tested stamblade how much dps are you doing now compared to live? Or about how much dps did you lose? Asking pve wise.

Asmael wrote: »

How much DPS was lost?

Well, 0 assuming you got your healer and tank doing their job.

Here is the truth, as a main stamblade having 80k+ dps on live, i tested same build, same race on pts both single target self buffed and on raid dummy.

On single target we lost 10k dps with beautiful parses. If fail rotation will be 12k.

On raid dummy is almost the same 80-85k dps.

But here is the thing, we dont have that buffs in small groups, we dont have that buffs in random groups, even in good raid groups we dont have part of that buffs due to mechanics, so to be honest we lost about 6-8k dps in average group. Which is extremely bad Gina! @ZOS_GinaBruno

Chelo

WickidMexican wrote: »

Well if thats the case why are some people saying rip nightblades and all this other nonsense?

Because the nerf is to PvP, not to PvE...

Dracane

WickidMexican wrote: »

Well if thats the case why are some people saying rip nightblades and all this other nonsense?

That's just because Nightblades need to rely on secondary abilities and/or sets now in order to gain those huge passive buffs/debuffs that their main spammable and main nuke used to give them. Just like all other classes have to since the beginning of time. So the anger comes from being a bit closer to those mortal peasant classes who get close to no passive effects from most of their abilities.

Perhaps not Warden, but that was a paywall class anyway.

Iskiab

Dracane wrote: »

WickidMexican wrote: »

Well if thats the case why are some people saying rip nightblades and all this other nonsense?

That's just because Nightblades need to rely on secondary abilities and/or sets now in order to gain those huge passive buffs/debuffs that their main spammable and main nuke used to give them. Just like all other classes have to since the beginning of time. So the anger comes from being a bit closer to those mortal peasant classes who get close to no passive effects from most of their abilities.

Perhaps not Warden, but that was a paywall class anyway.

Aren’t other classes hitting 100k now? There’s a pet bug so in reality no one knows exactly where classes stack up.

MassTerror23

No

Iskiab wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

WickidMexican wrote: »

Well if thats the case why are some people saying rip nightblades and all this other nonsense?

That's just because Nightblades need to rely on secondary abilities and/or sets now in order to gain those huge passive buffs/debuffs that their main spammable and main nuke used to give them. Just like all other classes have to since the beginning of time. So the anger comes from being a bit closer to those mortal peasant classes who get close to no passive effects from most of their abilities.

Perhaps not Warden, but that was a paywall class anyway.

Aren’t other classes hitting 100k now? There’s a pet bug so in reality no one knows exactly where classes stack up.

No the only class hitting 100k w/o bug is mag/stam necro

All other classes I’ve seen but on average from 75k-85k

russelmmendoza

So nightblade should be inline with other classes because they are assassins that uses the shadows to kill their targets.
Then, they should also remove all the assassin and shadow skill line and call it something else.
If a rouge assassin cant kill a target by itself using assassination and shadow skill, it should not be called a rouge assassin in the first place.

Gilvoth

russelmmendoza wrote: »

So nightblade should be inline with other classes because they are assassins that uses the shadows to kill their targets.
Then, they should also remove all the assassin and shadow skill line and call it something else.
If a rouge assassin cant kill a target by itself using assassination and shadow skill, it should not be called a rouge assassin in the first place.

well said!
all truth
i wish they would make a new class that can cast invisibility, and is more inline with rogue type assassin skills and has awesome stealthing speeds and sneak speeds. and assassination skills.
nightblade never really did fit that playstyle like we had in morrowind and oblivion.

WickidMexican

I dont see how being in line with other classes has anything to do with the assassination skills and shadow skills. So far from what ive read and seen the difference between stamblade and other classes closed a bit. I dont agree with some of the changes but in the end I play for fun so ill just adapt.