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Please keep Politics out of Zone Chat.

Casdha
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I'm not gonna bring it here but I will say someone was trying to call out a group of people and equating them to they types of folks that sit around and Gank PvE players.

For your information I am one of the folks that you were trying to equate those gankers to and I spent over an hour defending Cropsford so you could do your questing. Maybe you should tune out of your particular choice of Hatred peddling while you are playing this game and just try to Have Fun!!

Also, don't try to assign a side here, I'm not gonna say what they were saying. I will say my statement can apply to any side of any political argument and that crap doesn't belong in zone chat or in this game.
Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%

  • StormeReigns
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    If it is truly that bothersome, report, ignore, disable zone chat and move on. Political, religious, all taboo bar talks has been in mmos since and before UO.
    Edited by StormeReigns on April 20, 2019 5:26PM
  • StormChaser3000
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    Let me guess, you are EP and KoS everything that is not your color?

    People coexisted on the farm just fine when I stared at Shor, but then reds came and started "defending" it.. After a few pvpers appeared, pve red started feeling very brave and also began attacking everyone. More than that, they would allow you to approach the NPC, but then would light attack every 5 second to prevent you from talking to the questgiver.. before eventually killing you. Could not be you, but someone with a similar mindset. After I switched to EP myself since it was impossible to play at all, I saw reds whining in chat that AD now gank them.

    Well, that was well deserved due to their sh*tty attitude.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    last I checked it was a free world with free countries and freedom of speech.
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  • Starlock
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    Why does it bother you, do you think?

    As someone who frequently has substantive discussions about so-called taboo topics, I find the “politics” discussed in zone to be nothing more than shallow chest beating. It is no more or less uncouth than using any sort of snarl word and has no special status in my mind just because it is “political” (in quotes, because calling it that is being too generous).
  • gamerguy757
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    Or we could talk politics, have a nice debate, then agree to disagree and head to the tavern for pint
  • idk
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    Trolls will be trolls. If you think about it, why would someone legitimately log onto a game and bring up political issues?

    They wouldn’t. Those that start it or stir the pot are just trying be to get people riled up and based on the creation of this thread it worked.

    Do not feed the trolls. Or turn off Zone chat as I have. Rarely anything of value to see there.
  • Lab3360
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    Agreed. No politics.
  • Lake
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    I mean, mentioning real-life politics is a reportable offense on these forums and mods will edit out political mentions.

    Is it the same rules for in-game or not?
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    Lake wrote: »
    I mean, mentioning real-life politics is a reportable offense on these forums and mods will edit out political mentions.

    Is it the same rules for in-game or not?

    There are no moderators for Zone chat.

    Turn off Zone.
  • Ohtimbar
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    last I checked it was a free world with free countries and freedom of speech.
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    Not applicable to private platforms. At all. But it doesn't matter because zos isn't willing to spend the money to moderate and enforce their own rules.
    forever stuck in combat
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    No! High Kinlady Estre did nothing wrong!
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    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
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    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
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    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
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    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
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    Duskfang
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    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
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    • Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
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    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
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    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
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    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
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  • Casdha
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    Unless it has changed, I though the only chat you could see in Cyrodiil was from your own side.

    It doesn't matter what side was against who, folks who assume that because they joined a side in this game that somehow everyone on that side automatically believes as they do are mistaken.
    Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%

  • max_only
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    Casdha wrote: »
    Unless it has changed, I though the only chat you could see in Cyrodiil was from your own side.

    It doesn't matter what side was against who, folks who assume that because they joined a side in this game that somehow everyone on that side automatically believes as they do are mistaken.

    Yeah, I know some perfectly nice people who wanted a Drow and are now forever associated with the universal colors of edgelords, red and black. It’s a shame.

    Edit: also yes, players on your own side are the ones berating you. The most toxic I’ve seen was my first Midyear mayhem 2 year ago when yellow was actively trolling/insulting and coordinating to get their own alliance killed.
    Edited by max_only on April 20, 2019 8:16PM
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  • WeerW3ir
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    Edited by WeerW3ir on April 20, 2019 8:02PM
  • Casdha
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    I'm not personally that upset about it. I understand that folks are upset because they are out of their normal element trying to get freebies in this game, I'm just trying to point out that some may be inadvertently taking it out on fellow player who are trying to help them.

    While it doesn't apply to this game because of the TOS, yes it is a free country and folks do have freedom of speech, they do not have freedom of consequences in this case your help leaves and goes somewhere else to play rather than being drawn in to the toxicity of zone chat.
    Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%

  • bearbelly
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    Did you just call me fat?

    Turn off Zone.
    That is the answer. It solves so many things.

  • Casdha
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Did you just call me fat?

    Turn off Zone.
    That is the answer. It solves so many things.

    If folks turn off Zone chat and they are not in a group then how will they know where the help is needed, which is kind of my point.
    Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%

  • Ertosi
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    Casdha wrote: »
    I'm not gonna bring it here but [...]

    Except starting this discussion did bring it here.

    Anyways

    Bringing up Politics is against ESO's rules, so feel free to report other players when they do so. Plus there's a handy Ignore feature which allows you to take care of it yourself.

    Also, feel free to manage your chat Tabs. The tabs are annoying in that they always default to the first tab when changing zones, so I make that my most restrictive one with most channels turned off. Then my other tabs have other channels active, that way you're never pestered by annoying channels unless you actively want to take a peek at them.

    These tools can easily handle any chat related issues you might have, so feel free to use them.
    Edited by Ertosi on April 20, 2019 8:50PM
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  • Rake
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    ok
  • Kiralyn2000
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    1) Good luck with that, OP.

    2) Right click-ignore, works wonders. As does closing the chat window.
  • SirAndy
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    last I checked it was a free world with free countries and freedom of speech.

    I don't think you understand how "freedom of speech" works ...
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  • kmcaj
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    Make Zone Chat Great Again
  • Everstorm
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    last I checked it was a free world with free countries and freedom of speech.
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    Free world? You don't follow the news much do you? There's a couple of reasonable free countries left but the number is shrinking...
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    I don't read/watch the news, so I have no idea what's going on in the world anyway. Until a week ago I thought Brexits were a brand of biscuit you dunk in your tea
  • Casdha
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Casdha wrote: »
    I'm not gonna bring it here but [...]

    Except starting this discussion did bring it here.

    I'm not gonna bring the politics here but I did bring the discussion.
    Edited by Casdha on April 20, 2019 10:34PM
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  • VvardeFellow
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    What is usually meant by "politics: in a forum thread is "YOUR politics". Who would decide what level or if something is "politics"?
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    last I checked it was a free world with free countries and freedom of speech.

    What you say only applies to public areas. Not private ones like this. Anyone who has spent a little time in these forums knows what you can speak of is limited and Zos closes and even sometimes deletes threads because their topic is not permitted in these forums.
  • kargen27
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    Casdha wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Did you just call me fat?

    Turn off Zone.
    That is the answer. It solves so many things.

    If folks turn off Zone chat and they are not in a group then how will they know where the help is needed, which is kind of my point.

    I'm quick with the ignore option. If I could get my shields up as quick as I can ignore someone I might not die quite so much.
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  • FleetwoodSmack
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    Let me guess, you are EP and KoS everything that is not your color?

    People coexisted on the farm just fine when I stared at Shor, but then reds came and started "defending" it.. After a few pvpers appeared, pve red started feeling very brave and also began attacking everyone. More than that, they would allow you to approach the NPC, but then would light attack every 5 second to prevent you from talking to the questgiver.. before eventually killing you. Could not be you, but someone with a similar mindset. After I switched to EP myself since it was impossible to play at all, I saw reds whining in chat that AD now gank them.

    Well, that was well deserved due to their sh*tty attitude.

    @StormChaser3000 I think you might be in the wrong thread. :p
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  • StormChaser3000
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    Let me guess, you are EP and KoS everything that is not your color?

    People coexisted on the farm just fine when I stared at Shor, but then reds came and started "defending" it.. After a few pvpers appeared, pve red started feeling very brave and also began attacking everyone. More than that, they would allow you to approach the NPC, but then would light attack every 5 second to prevent you from talking to the questgiver.. before eventually killing you. Could not be you, but someone with a similar mindset. After I switched to EP myself since it was impossible to play at all, I saw reds whining in chat that AD now gank them.

    Well, that was well deserved due to their sh*tty attitude.

    @StormChaser3000 I think you might be in the wrong thread. :p

    Nope, that's a correct one. I didn't say it directly, but "saviour of questers" OP deserved to hear what they heard ;)
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