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Twin slashes buff or nerf??
glavius
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Twin Slashes: Adjusted this ability and its morphs to follow our standardized Damage over Time ruleset.
Increased the total duration to 10 seconds from 9 seconds.
Increased the delay to 2 seconds from 1 second.
Increased the damage per tick by approximately 15% to make up for the loss of the first tick. This will result in roughly the same overall DPS, but with less burst damage.
The patch notes state that it lost a tick
They also state duration was extended from 9 to 10 second, which should indicate ticks at 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 (1, 3, 5, 7, 9 seconds before) which indicates no tick was removed.
If going from 5 to 4 ticks but only buffing each remaining tick 15%, the ability lost 8% damage overall.
If keeping 5 ticks it got buffed by 15% damage overall.
I'm confused and I think whoever wrote the patch notes is too!
Increased the total duration to 10 seconds from 9 seconds.
Increased the delay to 2 seconds from 1 second.
Increased the damage per tick by approximately 15% to make up for the loss of the first tick. This will result in roughly the same overall DPS, but with less burst damage.
The patch notes state that it lost a tick
They also state duration was extended from 9 to 10 second, which should indicate ticks at 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 (1, 3, 5, 7, 9 seconds before) which indicates no tick was removed.
If going from 5 to 4 ticks but only buffing each remaining tick 15%, the ability lost 8% damage overall.
If keeping 5 ticks it got buffed by 15% damage overall.
I'm confused and I think whoever wrote the patch notes is too!
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ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭I think they made this change so that you can no longer use a dot skill as a spammable. Previously you could use this repeatedly while weaving light attacks and get both the initial damage plus the first tick. Now you won't get any ticks if you use this several times in a row with just la weaves. So it's a nerf for classes like stamDK that use this or claw for spammable, even though the actual damage of the skill if used as a dot goes up.
Maybe. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.7 -
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✭I think they made this change so that you can no longer use a dot skill as a spammable. Previously you could use this repeatedly while weaving light attacks and get both the initial damage plus the first tick. Now you won't get any ticks if you use this several times in a row with just la weaves. So it's a nerf for classes like stamDK that use this or claw for spammable, even though the actual damage of the skill if used as a dot goes up.
Maybe. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.
That's exactly it! You could also weave venomous claw for decent DPS and you'll no longer be able to. I liked the option so that's a RIP for me!0 -
CleymenZero✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mind you they had already nerfed rending slash by reducing the strength of 1H enchants, that's just the nail in the coffin.2 -
Wolfahm✭✭✭just spam OP flurry and call it a day -_-
MAKE KHAJIITS CRIT AGAIN!!!
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ArenGesus✭✭✭✭✭CleymenZero wrote: »I think they made this change so that you can no longer use a dot skill as a spammable. Previously you could use this repeatedly while weaving light attacks and get both the initial damage plus the first tick. Now you won't get any ticks if you use this several times in a row with just la weaves. So it's a nerf for classes like stamDK that use this or claw for spammable, even though the actual damage of the skill if used as a dot goes up.
Maybe. That's what it looks like to me, anyway.
That's exactly it! You could also weave venomous claw for decent DPS and you'll no longer be able to. I liked the option so that's a RIP for me!
Yeah, I used claw spam too. I actually kind of foresaw this type of change when claw spam started to become meta and felt like stamDK was going to get screwed for pve dps. So I recently started converting mine to a pvp dot build with deadly strikes. This change might help that some, but I'm not sure. Definitely reduces burst due to the delay, but overall pressure might go up significantly. I'm on console so can't test - will just have to wait an see.1 -
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✭just spam OP flurry and call it a day -_-
but the last tick might not register if u dont stay on target? is that bug still a thing?
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Grimlok_S✭✭✭✭✭No longer spammable. Sorry, Stamsorcs. DK, NB, Templar and Warden will make good use of the change.Light Attack Hero
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Nail in what coffin? For PvE or something? Bleeds are still overpowered in PvP, and probably even moreso now with Carve's up front damage hitting so hard (as I mentioned in another thread, I've seen ~4.3k on the initial hit even with solid resists, which is more than any other instant cast spammable I've been hit with, and that's not counting the followup DOT portion). DW/2h is still going to be everywhere except a coffin.CleymenZero wrote: »Mind you they had already nerfed rending slash by reducing the strength of 1H enchants, that's just the nail in the coffin.0 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭I know they don't want it to be used as spammable, but that's not really the point of the post.0
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ZOS need to make the last hit of flurry scale like it seems it ought to, tooltip*4, but it doesn't work like that. Read about it more here-. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/441718/flurry-and-morphs-300-final-hit-not-scaling-correctly-from-percent-amps
As for the op, it is a lateral shift if you are using the skill as just a dot in pve or PvP, it is a straight nerf if you are using the skill as a spammable.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on April 19, 2019 9:55AM0 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
ZOS need to make the last hit of flurry scale like it seems it ought to, tooltip*4, but it doesn't work like that. Read about it more here-. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/441718/flurry-and-morphs-300-final-hit-not-scaling-correctly-from-percent-amps
As for the op, it is a lateral shift if you are using the skill as just a dot in pve or PvP, it is a straight nerf if you are using the skill as a spammable.
Guess they could mean it's the same damage per second, but more overall damage per cast.0
