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New Chart - Adding Dps meter?

Cpt_Teemo
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So why after 2 years after disabling all Dps meters they bring it back again?
  • DyingIsEasy
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    So why after 2 years after disabling all Dps meters they bring it back again?

    It has NEVER been that way
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    So why after 2 years after disabling all Dps meters they bring it back again?

    It has NEVER been that way

    FTC, and other addons kept track of individual dps in dungeons and raids people got kicked out from groups from being toxic all the time for being worse than others.
  • Wolfkeks
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    Did ESO ever had a dps log system? I don't think so, but I took some time off the game at some point.
    I only know about the add-ons :sweat_smile:
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Wolfkeks wrote: »
    Did ESO ever had a dps log system? I don't think so, but I took some time off the game at some point.
    I only know about the add-ons :sweat_smile:

    They never did but they did disable all dps meters in game from addons cause of how exploited they were
  • ATomiX96
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    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:
    Edited by ATomiX96 on April 12, 2019 10:44PM
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:

    Yeah this won't go to well imo, it didn't 2 years ago i doubt it will now
  • templesus
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    Can’t wait for this. Gonna be amazing for the game
  • ATomiX96
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:

    Yeah this won't go to well imo, it didn't 2 years ago i doubt it will now

    Its a good thing, its private, you can opt out, overall its a cool addition.
    But personally I think its not required in ESO, as the combat system and boss fights dont have nearly as high complexity as in WoW.
    Edited by ATomiX96 on April 12, 2019 10:46PM
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:

    Yeah this won't go to well imo, it didn't 2 years ago i doubt it will now

    its a good thing, its private, you can opt out, overall its a cool addition.

    But if you opt out they won't take you at all wouldn't they?
  • VaranisArano
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    There's an actual discussion thread here, with comments from the class reps and someone who works on the ESO Logs program: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/467949/encounter-logging#latest

    If you've got concerns or even if you don't, that's where I'd encourage you to share those thoughts and opinions.
  • ATomiX96
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:

    Yeah this won't go to well imo, it didn't 2 years ago i doubt it will now

    its a good thing, its private, you can opt out, overall its a cool addition.

    But if you opt out they won't take you at all wouldn't they?

    well thats up for the guild to decide and as they explained onstream the logs are all private unless you "publicate" them.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    There's an actual discussion thread here, with comments from the class reps and someone who works on the ESO Logs program: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/467949/encounter-logging#latest

    If you've got concerns or even if you don't, that's where I'd encourage you to share those thoughts and opinions.

    Ah didn't see that sorry
  • Tyrobag
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:

    Yeah this won't go to well imo, it didn't 2 years ago i doubt it will now

    Its a good thing, its private, you can opt out, overall its a cool addition.
    But personally I think its not required in ESO, as the combat system and boss fights dont have nearly as high complexity as in WoW.

    You cant opt out though, you can flag yourself as "anonymous" which still shares all of your data but your name (which isn't that hard to figure out with all the other collected data).
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    Tyrobag wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:

    Yeah this won't go to well imo, it didn't 2 years ago i doubt it will now

    Its a good thing, its private, you can opt out, overall its a cool addition.
    But personally I think its not required in ESO, as the combat system and boss fights dont have nearly as high complexity as in WoW.

    You cant opt out though, you can flag yourself as "anonymous" which still shares all of your data but your name (which isn't that hard to figure out with all the other collected data).

    True even if you opt out they will find out who did
    Edited by Cpt_Teemo on April 12, 2019 10:53PM
  • Wolfkeks
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    I think they should add an 'disable' option for those who don't wanna share their data.
    No problem with sharing my dps with my raiding grp, but I don't feel like sharing my data (even anonymous) with every person I group up with. :/
    But good thing we get to see it on monday on the pts server and we can have a look into it. (And write how we feel about it on the thread)
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  • TheValar85
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    templesus wrote: »
    Can’t wait for this. Gonna be amazing for the game

    it will be devastating for alot of players :D specialy for new commers cos teh expectations are always high when it comes to group contents. Soo i would not suggest to add that to the game :D
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  • Sylvermynx
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    This is the sort of thing I just dislike intensely. Of course, I don't do group content anyway - because my ping is SO bad it's just not fair to ask others to deal with it. But I'm not happy about the "big brother" aspect....
  • Flares
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:

    It's the same developer as FFlogs, Warcraftlogs, wildstarlogs lol. It has speed leaderboards and stuff too now.
  • LeagueTroll
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    This is great news. As a tank I certainly kicked ok players in the past because I couldn’t figure out which dd is the potato. Now i will never kick capable player by mistake again.
  • ArchMikem
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    I'm missing context.
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  • MissBizz
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    This isnt available in real time in game. That's the big difference as stated on ESO live.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    @ArchMikem - see the poll thread, there's a link in there to the posted info.
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    This is great news. As a tank I certainly kicked ok players in the past because I couldn’t figure out which dd is the potato. Now i will never kick capable player by mistake again.

    this is the reason why it should never have been made, and why dps logging was removed from addons
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    ArchMikem - see the poll thread, there's a link in there to the posted info.

    What, is that a new Addon? PC gaming has always been toxically competitive and discriminating. I play on the wonderfully limited world of Consoles.
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  • Banana
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    I glad I only run solo
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Banana wrote: »
    I glad I only run solo

    Same, hopefully people won't abuse this new chart system for even pub dungeons that would be really bad tbh.
  • AlnilamE
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    This is great news. As a tank I certainly kicked ok players in the past because I couldn’t figure out which dd is the potato. Now i will never kick capable player by mistake again.

    You do realize it's not live, right?
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    Mmm. Just an addon away from becoming equal to WoW's community.
    Can't wait to see these forums when someone creates a similar addon to WoW's Gear Score/Item Levels to judge others based on their equipment after others figure out how easy it'll be to cheese the DPS meter.
  • zaria
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    So why after 2 years after disabling all Dps meters they bring it back again?

    It has NEVER been that way

    FTC, and other addons kept track of individual dps in dungeons and raids people got kicked out from groups from being toxic all the time for being worse than others.

    FTC had dps tracking, the data got suppressed so it only show your and group dps.
    Yes it still pretty obvious in dungeons :)

    Result of this will be that people will start kicking tanks for low dps.
    Yes its an obvious result, also more fake healers.
    Side note if dps is high healer should focus on buffing rater than damage, if its low doing damage is better.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Ydrisselle
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Ah yes i was waiting for this thread onstream. warcraftlogs, ah i mean esologs QQ.

    wow logs
    eso logs "new feature"

    the resemblance is uncanny. cant wait to farm 99% parses and smite the casuals with my dps in eso as well :triumph:
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    ArchMikem - see the poll thread, there's a link in there to the posted info.

    What, is that a new Addon? PC gaming has always been toxically competitive and discriminating. I play on the wonderfully limited world of Consoles.

    No, it will be a new built-in encounter logging feature - but only for PC.
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