Advice for a healer.

VaxtinTheWolf

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JohnQueue

[quote/]Increased weapon damage will also tweak your healing numbers higher, which people seem to not take into consideration.[/quote]

I meant Spell Damage, not weapon Damage.

akdave0

Currently on my healer:
5 jorvulds - body pieces
5 mothers sorrow - staves and jewelry
2 sentinel - monster

I swap out mothers when in trials with either:
Twilight 5
Olo 5

mundus - swapping out on situation
Shadow for crit bonus
Atronach for recovery

If your comfortable, start grinding cloudrest for Olo gear. It beats SPC hands down.

IlCanis_LupuslI

Heartsworth wrote: »

Hey there!

So I have been wondering what gear I could swap out that would drastically help in VET Dungeons. I am currently using Earthgore, Sanctuary and Vanus. I have been thinking of switching Vanus out for SPC (Spell Power Cure).

Really would love some recommendations

A setup i love for all dungeons on all healers(nb, warden, templaŕ, necro) is Gossamer(Co's), Spell power, Symphony of Blades(or Earth gore for vDLC no death runns.

IlCanis_LupuslI

And BTW I main a NB healer yes nb can heal pretty good
:-) harder to play thou then most healer classes

Narvuntien

I am just going to use this thread for generic healer help.

on my nerco Healer

I have olorome, earthgore and twilight remedy/worms. I can't really decide between twilight remedy and worms.

Like I know remedy is apparently useless now because of trap and accelerate but if I am using it I can save my groups bar space. Nerco healer has 4x synergies
Worms isn't great in dungeons when you could just have all stam
I have sanctuary lying around and Jorvald's (but only blue rings)

Paramedicus

Worms is bit pointless in dungeons imo*.. i would go with Jorv. Twilight - depends on your team I guess. Maybe just some DMG set?





*But i used it with Sancturary and Mages guild costume dyed red near Xmas time for nice holiday effect, with great success.

Bpryr_125

Marking for late reading

akdave0

I am now going after Blades monster set, in case if its asked for, I have it.

stileanima

Check out this page for some healing information. https://alcasthq.com/eso-healing-beginner-guide-elder-scrolls-online/

Bobby_V_Rockit

What traits on the staves do we use? I’m still trying to do vet dungeons, but run a nirnhoned Asylum Staff. Is the 15% extra damage comparable to 9% healing output?

I run Olorime, Infallible and Monster set of choice.

Iskiab

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

What traits on the staves do we use? I’m still trying to do vet dungeons, but run a nirnhoned Asylum Staff. Is the 15% extra damage comparable to 9% healing output?

I run Olorime, Infallible and Monster set of choice.

For pure healing output the highest is the healing modifier one (powered), but nirnhoned is still great and a good choice.

If you run any damage abilities on your front bar it could even be better.

Healing modifiers in general are better for healers, but they’re a multiple based on your spell power and Magicka and will have diminishing returns at a really high amount of healing done modifiers.

This can’t happen in pve, but for example in pvp in cyrodiil with scroll bonuses, keep support passive bonus nirnhoned can pull ahead. That’s a bit of a tangent though, the main thing is healing done modifiers are always best for PvE so go ritual and powered if all you’re doing is healing on that bar, and it’s best to get sustain from somewhere else before changing those two.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Does Inner Light have any place? I use it for the max magicka otherwise I’m sitting on 36k WITH the mage mundus and witchmothers brew.

Currently my Argonian Warden uses:
Asylum resto: Combat Prayer, Inner Light, Radiating Regen, Blue Betty, Budding Seeds, Warhorn.
IA Destro: Wall of elements, Inner Light, crushing shock, mushrooms, ele drain, barrier.

Iskiab

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Does Inner Light have any place? I use it for the max magicka otherwise I’m sitting on 36k WITH the mage mundus and witchmothers brew.

Currently my Argonian Warden uses:
Asylum resto: Combat Prayer, Inner Light, Radiating Regen, Blue Betty, Budding Seeds, Warhorn.
IA Destro: Wall of elements, Inner Light, crushing shock, mushrooms, ele drain, barrier.

I’ve never found pve that difficult to heal with the except of HoF, and other vets where you’re ignoring mechanics. I don’t think you need to boost your healing too much with passives, I’d rather add utility.

Big thing is you’re missing orbs, you could try adding overflowing alter and stuff too if you feel like it, but orbs is a big one.

If you get a good tank they practically require no healing, just feed them synergies. Healing is moreso for the dps... think about all the dungeons you’ve done where it was almost a TPK but the tank stayed alive and rezed people. Tanks like to min-max small details, but the reality is in dungeons they’ve outgeared even the vets.

Raisin

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Does Inner Light have any place? I use it for the max magicka otherwise I’m sitting on 36k WITH the mage mundus and witchmothers brew.

Currently my Argonian Warden uses:
Asylum resto: Combat Prayer, Inner Light, Radiating Regen, Blue Betty, Budding Seeds, Warhorn.
IA Destro: Wall of elements, Inner Light, crushing shock, mushrooms, ele drain, barrier.

If you want to run Inner Light and feel like you're not missing anything, you can. Same goes for the Mage Mundus. They are not however typical popular choices. 36k max mag is honestly more than you need. Depending on sets I hit as low as 30k with ~1.8k recovery and it's fine. I can't recall ever going that high in Magicka tbh.
As long as you can do what you want to do, run whatever you want. However, two very standard skills of the warden healer toolkit are Expansive Frost Cloak (even if not necessarily needed in some content with a good group) for the 5k resistances on your whole group, and Fetcher Infection for the minor vulnerability. You are free to stick with Aether of course, but using the skill will free up a whole set for you if you have others. IMO just the act of replacing Aether with Jorvuld for example would make up for having to slot Fetcher infection because of the recovery you get from Jorvuld's set bonuses and the time you save by gaining longer uptimes on buffs. Any sustain set such as Worm and Hollowfang also make it worth it. Basically depends on what sets you have available and what you're most comfortable with.
As said above, Altar is also great but can be run by others, and orbs (though in an all mag trial group your synergy may easily go unused unless you send it to someone away from group, so there's that).

Bobby_V_Rockit

Raisin wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Does Inner Light have any place? I use it for the max magicka otherwise I’m sitting on 36k WITH the mage mundus and witchmothers brew.

Currently my Argonian Warden uses:
Asylum resto: Combat Prayer, Inner Light, Radiating Regen, Blue Betty, Budding Seeds, Warhorn.
IA Destro: Wall of elements, Inner Light, crushing shock, mushrooms, ele drain, barrier.

If you want to run Inner Light and feel like you're not missing anything, you can. Same goes for the Mage Mundus. They are not however typical popular choices. 36k max mag is honestly more than you need. Depending on sets I hit as low as 30k with ~1.8k recovery and it's fine. I can't recall ever going that high in Magicka tbh.
As long as you can do what you want to do, run whatever you want. However, two very standard skills of the warden healer toolkit are Expansive Frost Cloak (even if not necessarily needed in some content with a good group) for the 5k resistances on your whole group, and Fetcher Infection for the minor vulnerability. You are free to stick with Aether of course, but using the skill will free up a whole set for you if you have others. IMO just the act of replacing Aether with Jorvuld for example would make up for having to slot Fetcher infection because of the recovery you get from Jorvuld's set bonuses and the time you save by gaining longer uptimes on buffs. Any sustain set such as Worm and Hollowfang also make it worth it. Basically depends on what sets you have available and what you're most comfortable with.
As said above, Altar is also great but can be run by others, and orbs (though in an all mag trial group your synergy may easily go unused unless you send it to someone away from group, so there's that).

Awesome, thank you. Swapped ‘em out. I had full set of Worm’s Raiment anyway, I was mostly using IA to make myself more useful in the DOS phases of areas. Swapped to:
resto bar: combat prayer, budding seeds, radiating regen, frost cloak, blue betty, warhorn.
Destro: wall, orbs, bees, mushrooms, drain, northern storm/barrier).

Thanks again, you’ve all been a great help.

Raisin

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Does Inner Light have any place? I use it for the max magicka otherwise I’m sitting on 36k WITH the mage mundus and witchmothers brew.

Currently my Argonian Warden uses:
Asylum resto: Combat Prayer, Inner Light, Radiating Regen, Blue Betty, Budding Seeds, Warhorn.
IA Destro: Wall of elements, Inner Light, crushing shock, mushrooms, ele drain, barrier.

If you want to run Inner Light and feel like you're not missing anything, you can. Same goes for the Mage Mundus. They are not however typical popular choices. 36k max mag is honestly more than you need. Depending on sets I hit as low as 30k with ~1.8k recovery and it's fine. I can't recall ever going that high in Magicka tbh.
As long as you can do what you want to do, run whatever you want. However, two very standard skills of the warden healer toolkit are Expansive Frost Cloak (even if not necessarily needed in some content with a good group) for the 5k resistances on your whole group, and Fetcher Infection for the minor vulnerability. You are free to stick with Aether of course, but using the skill will free up a whole set for you if you have others. IMO just the act of replacing Aether with Jorvuld for example would make up for having to slot Fetcher infection because of the recovery you get from Jorvuld's set bonuses and the time you save by gaining longer uptimes on buffs. Any sustain set such as Worm and Hollowfang also make it worth it. Basically depends on what sets you have available and what you're most comfortable with.
As said above, Altar is also great but can be run by others, and orbs (though in an all mag trial group your synergy may easily go unused unless you send it to someone away from group, so there's that).

Awesome, thank you. Swapped ‘em out. I had full set of Worm’s Raiment anyway, I was mostly using IA to make myself more useful in the DOS phases of areas. Swapped to:
resto bar: combat prayer, budding seeds, radiating regen, frost cloak, blue betty, warhorn.
Destro: wall, orbs, bees, mushrooms, drain, northern storm/barrier).

Thanks again, you’ve all been a great help.

Nice! God I wish fetcher infection was bees... I like that. And don't forget your passives -- as it stands right now, you have an Animal Companion slotted on both of your bars. That means you get 12% mag and stam recovery on both bars right now, which is sweet. This passive doesn't stack, so if you switch skills around it'll be smart not to have both of these on the same bar. And 10% from barrier on that bar also (Northern Storm does not increase your max mag anymore just by being slotted, but can still be nice to slot if you feel like some AOE damage would help).

Sorry if I'm over-explaining now. Hope you have a good time playing!

akdave0

Recently made some changes for running more vet trials.
Olorime
Twilight
Symphony

So far working pretty good. I was running mothers sorrow and Olo with shadow mundus. My crit was 72%. So my question would be.

Is it better to have higher crit value or run mage mundus for more Magicka pool?

Iskiab

akdave0 wrote: »

Recently made some changes for running more vet trials.
Olorime
Twilight
Symphony

So far working pretty good. I was running mothers sorrow and Olo with shadow mundus. My crit was 72%. So my question would be.

Is it better to have higher crit value or run mage mundus for more Magicka pool?

Depends on how much dps you’re mixing in. If you’re straight healing then the ritual is easily the best, if you’re mixing a lot of damage I’d go for the crit mundus maybe. I think only max magicka would be good if you’re a petsorc healer.

For vet trials it’s like pvp where output isn’t as important as sustain imo. I’d look at the sustain mundus or ritual depending on your preference. In vet trials I never mixed in dps, in places like vHoF sustain > healing tooltips imo because the damage is consistent.

My personal preference was to always build for sustain and then change mundus depending on content: crit dungeons, ritual or sustain mundus depending on the trial.

Thinking about it I think it’s better to oversustain while learning. Once you’re experienced you’ll be able to predict damage better, but if you’re just starting you’ll use emergency heals more.