Will we be able to buy skillpoints soon?

Mariusghost84

I heard some rumors about skillpoints being added to the crownshop. Is this true?

Casterial

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

I heard some rumors about skillpoints being added to the crownshop. Is this true?

No, if you have "Skyshard Hunter" unlocked for a zone, your alt can "buy" the skyshards from that zone.

I feel like its fair, I'm lazy.

edit -quoted from Twitch. They put emphasis on the "buy".

Tommy_The_Gun

IDK to be honest.

To me it seems to be posible... But also kind dumb idea. For many (I would assume vast majority of players) there will be literally NO reason to buy dungeon DLCs. On the other hand people who do end game dungeons may actually stop buying story DLCs - so it works both ways.

Pricing on those skill points could be the decideng factor.

My other concern is it will allow "rich" players to be able to progress much faster.

The other concern is that ZOS (if they will intriduce this feature to crown store) might be giving less skyshards & skill points in the future Chapters & DLCs. We know that for example inventory management is being balanced around craft bag & "premium" players rather than what normal players get.

MLGProPlayer

No, you can just buy skyshards you've unlocked on your other characters now. So if you make a new chaarcter and you don't want to spend 10 hours running around every zone for the 14th time, you can buy all the skyshards you've unlocked on your other characters.

MikaHR

Why not, ZOS should just sell maxxed out characters, 810 CP, full gold gearset of choice, fully leveled ALL skills in the game and all skilpoints.

Cause ESO is going full Korean F2P way, so really.....why not?

mocap

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

So if you make a new chaarcter and you don't want to spend 10 hours running around every zone for the 14th time

have 2 twinks, never did that. Skill points from leveling and dungeons is enough for build.

Turelus

As others have said you won't be able to buy SP as just SP.

You will be able to unlocked the Skyshard related SP for each zone on alternate characters as long as at least one character on the account has the achievement for that zone.

It's designed as a time saver for those who don't want to farm all the zones Skyshards again with new characters.

Mariusghost84

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

IDK to be honest.

To me it seems to be posible... But also kind dumb idea. For many (I would assume vast majority of players) there will be literally NO reason to buy dungeon DLCs. On the other hand people who do end game dungeons may actually stop buying story DLCs - so it works both ways.

Pricing on those skill points could be the decideng factor.

My other concern is it will allow "rich" players to be able to progress much faster.

The other concern is that ZOS (if they will intriduce this feature to crown store) might be giving less skyshards & skill points in the future Chapters & DLCs. We know that for example inventory management is being balanced around craft bag & "premium" players rather than what normal players get.

I have already unlocked all skyshards in game on my main, except 2 in Cyrodil. Are you saying i can BUY unlocks for all my other alts?

If so -> The is just AMAZING! The grind this will save is BEYOND BELIEF! My gamingtime is very limtied so this is HUGE if this is official?

Mariusghost84

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

IDK to be honest.

To me it seems to be posible... But also kind dumb idea. For many (I would assume vast majority of players) there will be literally NO reason to buy dungeon DLCs. On the other hand people who do end game dungeons may actually stop buying story DLCs - so it works both ways.

Pricing on those skill points could be the decideng factor.

My other concern is it will allow "rich" players to be able to progress much faster.

The other concern is that ZOS (if they will intriduce this feature to crown store) might be giving less skyshards & skill points in the future Chapters & DLCs. We know that for example inventory management is being balanced around craft bag & "premium" players rather than what normal players get.

I have already unlocked all skyshards in game on my main, except 2 in Cyrodil. Are you saying i can BUY unlocks for all my other alts?

If so -> The is just AMAZING! The grind this will save is BEYOND BELIEF! My gamingtime is very limtied so this is HUGE if this is official?

Edit: When will this be implemented?!

Jhalin

Don’t mince words, it’s 100% purchasing skillpoints

Any skyshard based skillpoints earned on one character can be bought on another

idk

Turelus wrote: »

As others have said you won't be able to buy SP as just SP.

You will be able to unlocked the Skyshard related SP for each zone on alternate characters as long as at least one character on the account has the achievement for that zone.

It's designed as a time saver for those who don't want to farm all the zones Skyshards again with new characters.

This. If you really want to load up on skill points you still need to do the skill points quests (and some PvP)

Mariusghost84

Jhalin wrote: »

Don’t mince words, it’s 100% purchasing skillpoints

Any skyshard based skillpoints earned on one character can be bought on another

And this is in effect as from NOW?!

Ashtaris

I doubt it. Buying skill points is too much of a “Pay-To-Win” scenario and I don’t believe ZOS would allow it.

Jhalin

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Don’t mince words, it’s 100% purchasing skillpoints

Any skyshard based skillpoints earned on one character can be bought on another

And this is in effect as from NOW?!

Not yet, it will be in effect sometime near the release of Elsweyr.


@Ashtaris
It’s already been confirmed on the Bethesda ESO stream from PAX that they will be selling skyshard skillpoints in the crownstore if you have the prerequisite skyshard achievement on any character. Further confirmed it is per alt, and unconfirmed but implied that it will also be per zone.

Alucardo

Ashtaris wrote: »

I doubt it. Buying skill points is too much of a “Pay-To-Win” scenario and I don’t believe ZOS would allow it.

It's not really. If it was unlocking weapon skill lines, upgrading morphs, etc, then yeah.. for sure. But just unlocking skyshards you've already collected a hundred times isn't so bad.

Jhalin

idk wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

As others have said you won't be able to buy SP as just SP.

You will be able to unlocked the Skyshard related SP for each zone on alternate characters as long as at least one character on the account has the achievement for that zone.

It's designed as a time saver for those who don't want to farm all the zones Skyshards again with new characters.

This. If you really want to load up on skill points you still need to do the skill points quests (and some PvP)

There’s 143 skyshard based skillpoints when including chapters and DLC, 113 just in base game, more than enough for a full loadout on an alt.

Mariusghost84

Thanks for anwsering guys. This is simply amazing and i cant wait for this to go live

BNOC

Thank god this is coming - Very disappointing if they are in the crown store and not just inherited / optionally inherited on character creation (Though they'd of needed to figure out a way to provide the same service to alt accounts that are already created)

Great change, disappointing method.

Jhalin

Alucardo wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I doubt it. Buying skill points is too much of a “Pay-To-Win” scenario and I don’t believe ZOS would allow it.

It's not really. If it was unlocking weapon skill lines, upgrading morphs, etc, then yeah.. for sure. But just unlocking skyshards you've already collected a hundred times isn't so bad.

It’s been stated on the day1 PAX stream that if the skillpoints for sale are profitable they will look to add guild lines next.

This is P2W coming to ESO make no mistake. Gameplay made optional if you have enough money.

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

Thanks for anwsering guys. This is simply amazing and i cant wait for this to go live

You will not be able to obtain the ability to instantly unlock skillspoints with gold. The skyshard skill point packs will be crown only and ungiftable, and going by past experience with outfit slots, they will be immensely expensive for things that must be bought per character

This is a terrible change to the game

therift

This is one of the many reasons why I have been dead set against skyshard unlocks, particularly since so many supporters of 'account-wide' skyshards offered to pay Crowns.

I predict 2,500 Crowns for a major zone (i.e. Auridon) and 1,250 Crowns for a minor zone (i.e. Gold Coast).

Players with deep pockets and many hours of game play will benefit over newer players and those who limit their ESO budgets.

Zacuel

I don't focus alts because I don't have the time really.


.... Or the money.

Ah well. I've got one awesome main.

Itzmichi

MikaHR wrote: »

Why not, ZOS should just sell maxxed out characters, 810 CP, full gold gearset of choice, fully leveled ALL skills in the game and all skilpoints.

Cause ESO is going full Korean F2P way, so really.....why not?

Again a quality hypocrisy respond from someone who never ever played a Korean game.

Kiralyn2000

Jhalin wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I doubt it. Buying skill points is too much of a “Pay-To-Win” scenario and I don’t believe ZOS would allow it.

It's not really. If it was unlocking weapon skill lines, upgrading morphs, etc, then yeah.. for sure. But just unlocking skyshards you've already collected a hundred times isn't so bad.

It’s been stated on the day1 PAX stream that if the skillpoints for sale are profitable they will look to add guild lines next.

This is P2W coming to ESO make no mistake. Gameplay made optional if you have enough money.

"pay 2 win"? So you have no ability to run around and grab the skyshards in the base game? You have to pay to get access to them? It's an advantage you'll have over people who don't pay?

Uh huh. Sure.


(personally, I think it's silly, and another example of "a fool and his money are soon parted", but I have little objection to other people wasting their money on something so wasteful. I'd certainly never do it. /shrug But in no way is it "p2w", except for the people who have overly-broad definitions of the term.)

Jhalin

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I doubt it. Buying skill points is too much of a “Pay-To-Win” scenario and I don’t believe ZOS would allow it.

It's not really. If it was unlocking weapon skill lines, upgrading morphs, etc, then yeah.. for sure. But just unlocking skyshards you've already collected a hundred times isn't so bad.

It’s been stated on the day1 PAX stream that if the skillpoints for sale are profitable they will look to add guild lines next.

This is P2W coming to ESO make no mistake. Gameplay made optional if you have enough money.

"pay 2 win"? So you have no ability to run around and grab the skyshards in the base game? You have to pay to get access to them? It's an advantage you'll have over people who don't pay?

Uh huh. Sure.


(personally, I think it's silly, and another example of "a fool and his money are soon parted", but I have little objection to other people wasting their money on something so wasteful. I'd certainly never do it. /shrug But in no way is it "p2w", except for the people who have overly-broad definitions of the term.)

Again, if it circumvents gameplay via throwing money at it to gain power, it’s pay to win.

If skyshard skillpoints aren’t pay to win, then neither is vMA gear in the store, or fully leveled characters in the store, because as you say, as long as you can get it in the game in some way, it’s not pay to win

AcadianPaladin

Who cares since no one is forcing anyone to change how they get skill points. Just an option for those who want to use it.

Unfair advantage? I think not. Somewhat similar to leveling up an alt via the Alik'r dolmen train: In the hands of a very experienced/skilled player who already knows the game/classes etc cold, it simply speeds things up; in the hands of a new or unskilled player it quickly produces rather worthless high level characters.

I make alts extremely rarely so I prefer the slow traditional way of 'growing them up' so I really get to learn my new character. What works for me may not be best for others however; that's why options are good.

srfrogg23

Yes, you will be able to waste money on something you can easily get just by wandering around with Netflix on.

FuriousStar

Yeeeaaaa.. I'm good on that. Already have most shards on 8 characters, and skyshard hunter on one. Exploring is just something I dig.

linoge63

Ashtaris wrote: »

I doubt it. Buying skill points is too much of a “Pay-To-Win” scenario and I don’t believe ZOS would allow it.

Pay to win exactly what though?

If I had every shard and the gear someone mentioned above totally maxed out, a dedicated pvp'er with run of the mill gear and half the shards would still respawn me to the nearest keep in literally under 3 secs and usually less.


Pay to win is just a meme that has entranced the minds of those that have yet to be shown by the legions of pvpers what winning really requires.

There is no pay to win possibility in this game. You either have developed skills or you don't.

I currently don't at the focused front line pvper has or even near, and id still buy that gold maxed gear etc etc just for the opportunity to get a decent whack in b4 the respawn p

Tsar_Gekkou

From what some have said, you won't be able to gift them either, so you either have to spend your own money, or trade gold to someone who'll send you a point card or other online/irl way of getting crowns if you don't want to blow your money on something that'll be overpriced. I know I won't be spending real money on it. I'll just farm gold and find a way.

FierceSam

Alucardo wrote: »

Ashtaris wrote: »

I doubt it. Buying skill points is too much of a “Pay-To-Win” scenario and I don’t believe ZOS would allow it.

It's not really. If it was unlocking weapon skill lines, upgrading morphs, etc, then yeah.. for sure. But just unlocking skyshards you've already collected a hundred times isn't so bad.

Unlocking skyshards you’ve only collected ONCE is utter filth.

It’s P2W at its worst. You are paying for unearned advancement pure and simple. Unlocking skilllines, upgrading morphs and enabling powers is exactly what paid for skyshards and their associated skill points will do.

Fixed it for you.

HappyLittleTree

I think the option to buy the skyshards is a good idea.

...yeah you have to spend money for it which many wouldn't think is "fair" but you could also do it for free which will just require your time.

I for one am always playing through the main faction of my new alt and get ever shard/book on the way so i have enough skillpoints to get a solid build for PVE.