PvP Elsweyr update information 31/03-2019

Yakidafi

Sources:
Pax East day 1 Q&A:
PvP talk timestamps: 05:41:45-05:48:00
Pax East day 2 Q&A:
PvP talk timestamps: 02:04:10-02:06:50, 02:07:50-02:09:40, 02:11:45-02:13:40, 20:18:10-02:18:50, 02:23:30-02:24:10, 02:26:05-02:27:00, 02:33:30-02:35:10, 02:35:10-02:37:00.
ESO R.Lambert interview Q&A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbU97cWmug0
PvP talk timestamps: 02:20-04:40, 17:40-20:00

Elsweyr server updates/changes:
30day cp: 1 (alliance locked, can only home 1 alliance per campaign duration, no guesting)
30day nocp: 1 (alliance locked, can only home 1 alliance per campaign duration, no guesting)
7day cp: 1
under 50: 1
IC cp: 1 (no leaderboards)
IC nocp: 1 (no leaderboards)
Battleground nocp


Single guest campaign choice removed, choose 1 campaign to home and you are able to guest all other campaigns except the alliance locked campaigns.(pax day 1, 2 and Lambert interview)
"NO-CP have improved latency/frame performance compared to CP"(R.Lambert interview).
Only able to become emperor on 1 alliance per campaign(Pax day 1)
Emperor can not pick up volendrung.(Pax day 1 and 2)
Volendrung will spawn more on the losing side rather than the winning one(Pax day 1 and 2)
Increase siege damage in cp towards players.(Pax day 2)

Vapirko

Too many campaigns. We will end up with the same problem as now. Vivec packed and the rest will be dead except on weekends and occasional week nights.

angeleda

Add 7 day nonCP already

Edika

Vapirko wrote: »

Too many campaigns. We will end up with the same problem as now. Vivec packed and the rest will be dead except on weekends and occasional week nights.

no cp is poplocked every day on pc eu at primetime

Zer0oo

• necro rez aoe ulti works in pvp
• removing destroyable towers and roofs of keeps to improve performance (mmmmkay but they added destroyable bridges a few patches ago:| )
• the artifact can destroy walls in 30 sec
• if you have chars in 3 alliances you will not be able to play all in a populated 30day campaign
• they are aware that procs sets are a problem in pvp
• no additional changes to IC - no leader-board or something else just like it is now just as it's own campaign
• combat bug - no ETA and they did not say they want to change anything of what you can do in combat
  /list]

Beardimus

Nice one @Yakidafi apologies i cant listen to clips right now, but going from your text - Vivec and Sotha ARE fully faction locked correct?

I heard some say it was just lack of rewards but this reads like a full lock?

Yakidafi

@Beardimus yes, from what they said in these days.

ScruffyWhiskers

Faction lock is only going to work if you have some better incentives to bring non-hard core pvpers into Cyrodiil. They really need to do something like a mini midyear mayhem that runs every few weeks. Those tier rewards just don't cut it for most people, even with the transmute crystals. Once you get casuals and PvE players into Cyrodiil alot of them realize that it's not too bad and actually pretty fun and play there a lot more.

RMerlin

Yakidafi wrote: »

"NO-CP have improved latency/frame performance compared to CP"(R.Lambert interview).

Probably because no zergs plays on the No-CP campaigns, not because there is no CP.

During the last Mayhem event some well-known zergs left VIvec. And oh behold, a lot of the lag was suddenly gone, and we still had CP.

The fix is to either discourage zerging, or improve server/network performance. Anything else is just a band-aid on minor cuts, while the arteries are still bleeding.

Juhasow

So there wont be under 50 IC ?

Moonsorrow

I like these planned changes.

CatchMeTrolling

Imp city change is very lazy so far if that’s all they’re going to do. Just make it a pve zone.

Also there’s too many campaigns.

ATomiX96

I really hope the IC campaigns will turn out to have decent population, taxing those 20 man farm-zergs will be both lucrative and fun.

frozywozy

tyvm for sharing @Yakidafi

Beardimus

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Imp city change is very lazy so far if that’s all they’re going to do. Just make it a pve zone.

Also there’s too many campaigns.

What? There's too much PvE by that measure, IC is a hybrid zone always has been. It's easy enough to PvE through if one wishes.

CatchMeTrolling

Beardimus wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Imp city change is very lazy so far if that’s all they’re going to do. Just make it a pve zone.

Also there’s too many campaigns.

What? There's too much PvE by that measure, IC is a hybrid zone always has been. It's easy enough to PvE through if one wishes.

You’re missing the point, imp city is filled with people that want nothing to do with pvp. As soon as they realize it’s people that can kill them they just leave. The amount of actual pvp players down there is minuscule in comparison to the pve players. The next update does nothing to fix that problem so far, so based on that information it should just be a pve zone.

InvictusApollo

Faction lock is a very bad idea if there is going to be only one noCP campaign. It will literally delete two thirds of pvp characters of every player who likes to play only in noCP.

InvictusApollo

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

Faction lock is only going to work if you have some better incentives to bring non-hard core pvpers into Cyrodiil. They really need to do something like a mini midyear mayhem that runs every few weeks. Those tier rewards just don't cut it for most people, even with the transmute crystals. Once you get casuals and PvE players into Cyrodiil alot of them realize that it's not too bad and actually pretty fun and play there a lot more.

What ZOS really has to do to let more players play pvp is to let them actually hjave a fighting chance and some kind of influence on the flow of battle.

Right now an average eso player is incapable of holding his ground against an average pvp player who has decent build and actually spent time and resources on making that build.
Not everyone wants to watch multiple YT videos about pvp builds and gameplay, farm for hours and spend a lot of gold to get a proper build that may or may not let them have any chance. And all of that time and gold investment for what? To play in a laggy, low fps enviroment where ball groups and zerg groups make the game feel unbalance and unrewarding?

Minno

Faction lock is only going to punish those that faction stack one camp. Long ques, huge lag, etc. Reason for these changes, is to force IC/shor pops to go up.

Also it's funny they consider nCP less laggy. It's really not just because of CP clogging the calcs but because you die faster. This was proved during OP siege in vivec, and why sotha players didn't really noticed a change in performance.

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos

Zer0oo wrote: »

• they are aware that procs sets are a problem in pvp
• combat bug - no ETA and they did not say they want to change anything of what you can do in combat
  /list]

Completely incompetent team behind this ***. If i performed anywhere close to the people in charge of these things i would get fired immediately.

These two problems have been around for.... AGES. They wont do anything about these things, they're just trying to fool people into investing more time.

LoreToo

Zer0oo wrote: »

• necro rez aoe ulti works in pvp
• removing destroyable towers and roofs of keeps to improve performance (mmmmkay but they added destroyable bridges a few patches ago:| )
• the artifact can destroy walls in 30 sec
• if you have chars in 3 alliances you will not be able to play all in a populated 30day campaign
• they are aware that procs sets are a problem in pvp
• no additional changes to IC - no leader-board or something else just like it is now just as it's own campaign
• combat bug - no ETA and they did not say they want to change anything of what you can do in combat
  /list]

1. As it should
2. Less objects=less lag? Rly?
3. Any normal group kills wall in 2 mins, omg, 20/20
4. Great! Now we will se who is in real pop-lock+no flips around 4-5 am
5. Proc sets are good, flat stats are better. Proc sets is not a problem nowdays(ok, ex sload on noncp)
6. Whatever
7. They told about chance to flip skills/ "Q" slots in combat? How is it going?

IxSTALKERxI

what are you wearing?

Reverb

I’m incredibly annoyed that they aren’t considering easing the restrictions on what can be done while stuck in combat. If they can’t fix the problem (and clearly won’t prioritize figuring it out) why not let us swap quickslots, skills and gear? Why not let us use the transitus?

You know what works when you’re stuck in combat 5 min after the battle ended? Quitting the game. Maybe that’s what they want

LoreToo

Reverb wrote: »

I’m incredibly annoyed that they aren’t considering easing the restrictions on what can be done while stuck in combat. If they can’t fix the problem (and clearly won’t prioritize figuring it out) why not let us swap quickslots, skills and gear? Why not let us use the transitus?

You know what works when you’re stuck in combat 5 min after the battle ended? Quitting the game. Maybe that’s what they want

Cause that will make huge smash on pve. Seaping skills in raid=op.

ellahellabella

LoreToo wrote: »

Reverb wrote: »

I’m incredibly annoyed that they aren’t considering easing the restrictions on what can be done while stuck in combat. If they can’t fix the problem (and clearly won’t prioritize figuring it out) why not let us swap quickslots, skills and gear? Why not let us use the transitus?

You know what works when you’re stuck in combat 5 min after the battle ended? Quitting the game. Maybe that’s what they want

Cause that will make huge smash on pve. Seaping skills in raid=op.

try that again in English please (edit* srsly i don't get it. explain i guess?)

the combat change ruined pve and pvp. I loathe it in both so no one benefited.

ellahellabella

Minno wrote: »

Faction lock is only going to punish those that faction stack one camp. Long ques, huge lag, etc. Reason for these changes, is to force IC/shor pops to go up.

Also it's funny they consider nCP less laggy. It's really not just because of CP clogging the calcs but because you die faster. This was proved during OP siege in vivec, and why sotha players didn't really noticed a change in performance.

Maybe for NA. we in OC/JP only use one campaign.
Are you so content forcing me to stay in an alliance if even they have a happy time taking everything and i have nothing to do just so NA spreads out? You realise not only Americans play eso right?
*edit spelling*

frostz417

LoreToo wrote: »

Zer0oo wrote: »

• necro rez aoe ulti works in pvp
• removing destroyable towers and roofs of keeps to improve performance (mmmmkay but they added destroyable bridges a few patches ago:| )
• the artifact can destroy walls in 30 sec
• if you have chars in 3 alliances you will not be able to play all in a populated 30day campaign
• they are aware that procs sets are a problem in pvp
• no additional changes to IC - no leader-board or something else just like it is now just as it's own campaign
• combat bug - no ETA and they did not say they want to change anything of what you can do in combat
  /list]

1. As it should
2. Less objects=less lag? Rly?
3. Any normal group kills wall in 2 mins, omg, 20/20
4. Great! Now we will se who is in real pop-lock+no flips around 4-5 am
5. Proc sets are good, flat stats are better. Proc sets is not a problem nowdays(ok, ex sload on noncp)
6. Whatever
7. They told about chance to flip skills/ "Q" slots in combat? How is it going?

5. Proc sets are NOT good. They need to be removed. They encourage skilless gameplay and it is the cause of most PvP imbalance.
Earthgore, viper, zaan, caluurons, skoria, troll king, etc... these sets need to be removed or heavily nerfed. They’re skilless and encourage a bunch of thumbless fish to run them and think they’re good. Nothing more infuriating when you’re about to finish off a kill on an opponent only for an earthgore to proc from a healer 2 keeps away.

Alucardo

Beardimus wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Imp city change is very lazy so far if that’s all they’re going to do. Just make it a pve zone.

Also there’s too many campaigns.

What? There's too much PvE by that measure, IC is a hybrid zone always has been. It's easy enough to PvE through if one wishes.

Because it's so dead it's already a PvE zone

Minno

ellahellabella wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Faction lock is only going to punish those that faction stack one camp. Long ques, huge lag, etc. Reason for these changes, is to force IC/shor pops to go up.

Also it's funny they consider nCP less laggy. It's really not just because of CP clogging the calcs but because you die faster. This was proved during OP siege in vivec, and why sotha players didn't really noticed a change in performance.

Maybe for NA. we in OC/JP only use one campaign.
Are you so content forcing me to stay in an alliance if even they have a happy time taking everything and i have nothing to do just so NA spreads out? You realise not only Americans play eso right?
*edit spelling*

If there were enough in your time zone, ZOS would have made a new server for the asia/oceanic crowd. But since there arent, according to zos, im still fine with the change.

This is because it forces primetime eastern NA which interlocks with the begining of primetime west NA, and the bleed over to oceanic pre-primetime to start thinking about which campaigns to run on. This time slots, I argue, has the most players for the server (11am eastern timeslot means 8pm california time and 2pm sydney). But by the time sydney has this main primetime, the cali NA time is reaching 11pm but NA eastern has 1am which still has some players that dont sleep lol.

Mayrael

frostz417 wrote: »

5. Proc sets are NOT good. They need to be removed. They encourage skilless gameplay and it is the cause of most PvP imbalance.
Earthgore, viper, zaan, caluurons, skoria, troll king, etc... these sets need to be removed or heavily nerfed. They’re skilless and encourage a bunch of thumbless fish to run them and think they’re good. Nothing more infuriating when you’re about to finish off a kill on an opponent only for an earthgore to proc from a healer 2 keeps away.

Actually if you can't handle proc sets after all those years it's not ZOS problem. Yes proc sets are bad but since they are not going anywhere you better start to learn how to deal with them.

LoreToo wrote: »

Zer0oo wrote: »

• necro rez aoe ulti works in pvp
• removing destroyable towers and roofs of keeps to improve performance (mmmmkay but they added destroyable bridges a few patches ago:| )
• the artifact can destroy walls in 30 sec
• if you have chars in 3 alliances you will not be able to play all in a populated 30day campaign
• they are aware that procs sets are a problem in pvp
• no additional changes to IC - no leader-board or something else just like it is now just as it's own campaign
• combat bug - no ETA and they did not say they want to change anything of what you can do in combat
  /list]

1. As it should
2. Less objects=less lag? Rly?
3. Any normal group kills wall in 2 mins, omg, 20/20
4. Great! Now we will se who is in real pop-lock+no flips around 4-5 am
5. Proc sets are good, flat stats are better. Proc sets is not a problem nowdays(ok, ex sload on noncp)
6. Whatever
7. They told about chance to flip skills/ "Q" slots in combat? How is it going?

Point 7 is what I heard to, it would be really awesome since we can't count on fixing in combat bug