Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
WW pets are not excluded by my proposal. Speed meta is long gone.Priyasekarssk wrote: »Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
Lets discuss about abusing targeting system by high movement speeds too. Especially stam sorcs and NBs are just exploiting the movement speed mechanics of the game. Single target abilities not even enabled right in front of cross hair just because running around in high speed and CC never Go off. Forget tab targeting. I dont see any issue in tab targeting so far.
Lets discuss Free damage mitigation without blocking by running around . So this exploitation is acceptable way of playing and
no way by others to counter it .
I have seen only pet sorcs create annoyance and most have only 1 pets and no one ever did a 1vX full pet builds in PVP . Why such hypocrisy ? Do noobs needs potatoes and exploits to win the game who doesnt know how to target or never learn it ? Why werewolf pets are excluded intentionally ?
Priyasekarssk wrote: »Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
I have seen only pet sorcs create annoyance and most have only 1 pets and no one ever did a 1vX full pet builds in PVP . Why such hypocrisy ? Do noobs needs potatoes and exploits to win the game who doesnt know how to target or never learn it ? Why werewolf pets are excluded intentionally ?
LMFAO. Still suffering from the same victim syndrome are we? Petsorc is blatantly broken. Apart from the targetting, I am getting hit by 5k + pulses from the pets, 5k + lightning heavy attacks, and more unavoidable crap. All of that on a 24k resist character. Its broken. Period.Priyasekarssk wrote: »Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
Lets discuss about abusing targeting system by high movement speeds too. Especially stam sorcs and NBs are just exploiting the movement speed mechanics of the game. Single target abilities not even enabled right in front of cross hair just because running around in high speed and CC never Go off. Forget tab targeting. I dont see any issue in tab targeting so far.
Lets discuss Free damage mitigation without blocking by running around . So this exploitation is acceptable way of playing and
no way by others to counter it .
I have seen only pet sorcs create annoyance and most have only 1 pets and no one ever did a 1vX full pet builds in PVP . Why such hypocrisy ? Do noobs needs potatoes and exploits to win the game who doesnt know how to target or never learn it ? Why werewolf pets are excluded intentionally ?
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
You don't WASTE them. You can and should kill the pet. You can't kill a tree.
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
You don't WASTE them. You can and should kill the pet. You can't kill a tree.
Riiiight. When I’m in a deathmatch BG — where points are only granted for killing players — I should go ahead and kill the up to sixteen pets cluttering my screen at any given time while the four players controlling said pets lazily spam CC, heavy attacks, and executes behind their meat shield.
Edit: Also, you can’t kill a tree, but you CAN move away from the tree and force the other player to engage you in the open. They can’t drag that tree along with them. If you’re getting owned by environmental LOSers or tower farmers, you only have yourself to blame.
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
You don't WASTE them. You can and should kill the pet. You can't kill a tree.
Riiiight. When I’m in a deathmatch BG — where points are only granted for killing players — I should go ahead and kill the up to sixteen pets cluttering my screen at any given time while the four players controlling said pets lazily spam CC, heavy attacks, and executes behind their meat shield.
Edit: Also, you can’t kill a tree, but you CAN move away from the tree and force the other player to engage you in the open. They can’t drag that tree along with them. If you’re getting owned by environmental LOSers or tower farmers, you only have yourself to blame.
I hear you. It's annoying. And it has annoyed me for years that whenever I look at a melee player, I have to run around trees, towers and rocks for hours. Negating my ranged advantage. And then take the frontloaded burst, while I can't setup my backloaded one. Sure, I can walk away from the tree. And ignore the following camp, reses or whatever that player will inevitably do to hinder my faction.
I'm actually with you that LOS is annoying. But I find it satisfying to see "us" apply that logic to "you" and watch how you deal with it. Grim satisfaction for every Frag that has refused to fire because reasons. *shrugs*
To be clear, make pets untargettable when you also allow ranged attacks to hit people when they're in sight. And range, of course. Fair is fair, aye?
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
You don't WASTE them. You can and should kill the pet. You can't kill a tree.
Riiiight. When I’m in a deathmatch BG — where points are only granted for killing players — I should go ahead and kill the up to sixteen pets cluttering my screen at any given time while the four players controlling said pets lazily spam CC, heavy attacks, and executes behind their meat shield.
Edit: Also, you can’t kill a tree, but you CAN move away from the tree and force the other player to engage you in the open. They can’t drag that tree along with them. If you’re getting owned by environmental LOSers or tower farmers, you only have yourself to blame.
I hear you. It's annoying. And it has annoyed me for years that whenever I look at a melee player, I have to run around trees, towers and rocks for hours. Negating my ranged advantage. And then take the frontloaded burst, while I can't setup my backloaded one. Sure, I can walk away from the tree. And ignore the following camp, reses or whatever that player will inevitably do to hinder my faction.
I'm actually with you that LOS is annoying. But I find it satisfying to see "us" apply that logic to "you" and watch how you deal with it. Grim satisfaction for every Frag that has refused to fire because reasons. *shrugs*
To be clear, make pets untargettable when you also allow ranged attacks to hit people when they're in sight. And range, of course. Fair is fair, aye?
You’re speaking to me as though I main a stam melee character. I main a mag sorc...
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
You don't WASTE them. You can and should kill the pet. You can't kill a tree.
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
You don't WASTE them. You can and should kill the pet. You can't kill a tree.
So, if I understand right, I should ignore the owner, and attempt to kill the pets that Zenimax has repeatedly buffed leading up to necro? Nonsense.
@Aurielle is completely right. Even if pets were able to be killed in a reasonable amount of time, @Aurielle is still completely right. As targeting currently stands, I can be focusing completely on the owner, and yet a pet walks across the screen at an inopportune moment, stealing not only my skills, but my valuable ultimate that I've saved specifically for the owner.
Currently the targeting system is really bad and this can be really exposed in the BGs.
ZoS please make all pets targetable only when they are exclusively tab targeted. Otherwise they should have the least priority.
Maybe only the Sorc and Necro ulties could be targetable and used for LoS as they are ulties and should be strong.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler, @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_RobGarrett , @ZOS_Gilliam
IDK,
But what about LoS obstacles that stamina players permanently use to get out of sight and waiting for their ulti to build up?
How that does fit in your adjustment?
@Didgerion
The difference between using environmental LOS and pet LOS is that I can’t unintentionally use a single target ultimate or skill on a tree. Pet builds force you to waste resources and ultimates.
You don't WASTE them. You can and should kill the pet. You can't kill a tree.
So, if I understand right, I should ignore the owner, and attempt to kill the pets that Zenimax has repeatedly buffed leading up to necro? Nonsense.
@Aurielle is completely right. Even if pets were able to be killed in a reasonable amount of time, @Aurielle is still completely right. As targeting currently stands, I can be focusing completely on the owner, and yet a pet walks across the screen at an inopportune moment, stealing not only my skills, but my valuable ultimate that I've saved specifically for the owner.
I was referring to the ultimate not just poofing into thin air, but actually killing the pet. Therefore not simply wasting it. Dropping a meteor on an Engine Guardian, THAT is a waste.
But of course, you should be able to hit the sorc behind pets. I should be able to hit that player in front of me with a Frag, too. Target system could use quite some work in this game.
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