Jewelry Master Writs

ZeusChaos25

Are Jewelry Master Writs worth doing? It takes a lot of resources and money to make some of the stuff Legendary, which to me, doesn't seem worth it at all. I've got about 20 Master Jewelry Wrists in my bank. Should I just sell them at 500 gold a piece?

theyancey

You think that anyone would buy them?

ZeusChaos25

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

Ryath_Waylander

If you have the writ worthy addon, it takes the cost of the mats needed to craft it and tells you the gold cost per voucher. If it costs more than 1000g/voucher, almost no one will buy it. Generally speaking, an epic must be at least 105 to 110 vouchers and legendary 415 to 442 before I'll consider buying them. Even then, if they sell for more than 1500g or have an expensive trait or style like swift/buoyant armiger, the craft cost can spike up over 2000g/v. Then I walk away, even those I pick up I'll sell for 100g or just destroy.

ZeusChaos25

Ryath_Waylander wrote: »

If you have the writ worthy addon, it takes the cost of the mats needed to craft it and tells you the gold cost per voucher. If it costs more than 1000g/voucher, no one will buy it. Generally speaking, an epic must be at least 105 to 110 vouchers and legendary 415 to 442 before I'll consider buying them. Even then, if they sell for more than 1500g or have an expensive trait or style like swift/buoyant armiger, the craft cost can spike up over 2000g. Then I walk away, even those I pick up I'll sell for 100g or just destroy.

I do have about 3 writs in my bank that require legendary jewelry and the rewards are about 300 vouchers, the epic ones are close to 100 vouchers. I might just selling them because I don't want to waste good materials for jewelry on these stupid writs.

tmbrinks

They are currently not worth doing. The "cheapest" one I've seen on PC/NA is for 894 gold per voucher, and that's an Epic, 9-trait, 115 voucher infused ring. Items from the writ vendor only sell for between 650-750g per voucher, so you'd be losing money.

I am keeping my 100+ epic, and 400+ legendary jewelry master writs, just in case the crafting costs come down drastically in the future, but for the time being, they are not worth doing. I don't even bother selling the others that don't fit that criteria. I just destroy and move on.

SaintSubwayy

generally they are NOT worth it by any means, maybe some very rare exeptions.

(Numbers from MM PC EU)

just look at the matprices....25k for purple mats....85k for golden mat

3x25k + 4x85k+ about 25k to get to blue = 75k+25k+340k = 440K...for a freaking Writ

lets say you have a very rare 450 voucher writ
440k gold spent to get 450 vouchers

now taking some normally good selling items to determine voucher price:
200k for attunable jewelry station -> 250 vouchers = 800g / voucher

doin the math 450 voucher x 800g = 360k gold

negative balance of 80k gold....NOT worth it!

Ajax_22

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

ZeusChaos25

tmbrinks wrote: »

They are currently not worth doing. The "cheapest" one I've seen on PC/NA is for 894 gold per voucher, and that's an Epic, 9-trait, 115 voucher infused ring. Items from the writ vendor only sell for between 650-750g per voucher, so you'd be losing money.

I am keeping my 100+ epic, and 400+ legendary jewelry master writs, just in case the crafting costs come down drastically in the future, but for the time being, they are not worth doing. I don't even bother selling the others that don't fit that criteria. I just destroy and move on.

Looks like I'll be destroying them lmao

ZeusChaos25

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

generally they are NOT worth it by any means, maybe some very rare exeptions.

(Numbers from MM PC EU)

just look at the matprices....25k for purple mats....85k for golden mat

3x25k + 4x85k+ about 25k to get to blue = 75k+25k+340k = 440K...for a freaking Writ

lets say you have a very rare 450 voucher writ
440k gold spent to get 450 vouchers

now taking some normally good selling items to determine voucher price:
200k for attunable jewelry station -> 250 vouchers = 800g / voucher

doin the math 450 voucher x 800g = 360k gold

negative balance of 80k gold....NOT worth it!

Yea, that cost is just ridiculous. No wonder people just sell or destroy them. Over on the Xbox EU server, the gold plating is going for 100K at least from what I've seen. I've got 2 gold plating I might just sell.

ZeusChaos25

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

tmbrinks

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

ZeusChaos25

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Doing daily writs, I seen to get more jewelry ones than blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones.

SaintSubwayy

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

generally they are NOT worth it by any means, maybe some very rare exeptions.

(Numbers from MM PC EU)

just look at the matprices....25k for purple mats....85k for golden mat

3x25k + 4x85k+ about 25k to get to blue = 75k+25k+340k = 440K...for a freaking Writ

lets say you have a very rare 450 voucher writ
440k gold spent to get 450 vouchers

now taking some normally good selling items to determine voucher price:
200k for attunable jewelry station -> 250 vouchers = 800g / voucher

doin the math 450 voucher x 800g = 360k gold

negative balance of 80k gold....NOT worth it!

Yea, that cost is just ridiculous. No wonder people just sell or destroy them. Over on the Xbox EU server, the gold plating is going for 100K at least from what I've seen. I've got 2 gold plating I might just sell.

so were cheap on PC EU with 85k

sitting on over 2mil gold just in gold plating now...mayn vet HM cleas in Trials and doin jewelrycrafting n all chars works wonders

Mix

I destroy all mine. They cost significantly more per voucher than the others and I don't have nearly the amount of jewelry crafting mats that I do of the other crafting skills.

tmbrinks

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Doing daily writs, I seen to get more jewelry ones than blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones.

It's "easier" to get to the max chance of getting JC writs (because they are based on trait knowledge) than it is to get blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones (as they are based on motif knowledge) I'd bet that there are plenty more 7/8/9 trait JC crafters than there are people who have characters with all 60 or so motifs that go into getting better chances on the other 3.

ZeusChaos25

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

generally they are NOT worth it by any means, maybe some very rare exeptions.

(Numbers from MM PC EU)

just look at the matprices....25k for purple mats....85k for golden mat

3x25k + 4x85k+ about 25k to get to blue = 75k+25k+340k = 440K...for a freaking Writ

lets say you have a very rare 450 voucher writ
440k gold spent to get 450 vouchers

now taking some normally good selling items to determine voucher price:
200k for attunable jewelry station -> 250 vouchers = 800g / voucher

doin the math 450 voucher x 800g = 360k gold

negative balance of 80k gold....NOT worth it!

Yea, that cost is just ridiculous. No wonder people just sell or destroy them. Over on the Xbox EU server, the gold plating is going for 100K at least from what I've seen. I've got 2 gold plating I might just sell.

so were cheap on PC EU with 85k

sitting on over 2mil gold just in gold plating now...mayn vet HM cleas in Trials and doin jewelrycrafting n all chars works wonders

Jeez! I'm gonna stick to the other master writs, seem to be a lot easier because I've got tons of mats for those. Just doing the master writs until I hit 100 then I'm never doing them again lmao 23 down 77 to go.

SaintSubwayy

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Doing daily writs, I seen to get more jewelry ones than blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones.

It's "easier" to get to the max chance of getting JC writs (because they are based on trait knowledge) than it is to get blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones (as they are based on motif knowledge) I'd bet that there are plenty more 7/8/9 trait JC crafters than there are people who have characters with all 60 or so motifs that go into getting better chances on the other 3.

trait knowledge is also effecting blacksmithing etc. ofc motives etc aswell.
but traits still have more influence on those professions than the motifs have.

and crownstore only motifes are excluded in the dropchance calculation.

tmbrinks

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

generally they are NOT worth it by any means, maybe some very rare exeptions.

(Numbers from MM PC EU)

just look at the matprices....25k for purple mats....85k for golden mat

3x25k + 4x85k+ about 25k to get to blue = 75k+25k+340k = 440K...for a freaking Writ

lets say you have a very rare 450 voucher writ
440k gold spent to get 450 vouchers

now taking some normally good selling items to determine voucher price:
200k for attunable jewelry station -> 250 vouchers = 800g / voucher

doin the math 450 voucher x 800g = 360k gold

negative balance of 80k gold....NOT worth it!

Yea, that cost is just ridiculous. No wonder people just sell or destroy them. Over on the Xbox EU server, the gold plating is going for 100K at least from what I've seen. I've got 2 gold plating I might just sell.

so were cheap on PC EU with 85k

sitting on over 2mil gold just in gold plating now...mayn vet HM cleas in Trials and doin jewelrycrafting n all chars works wonders

Agreed. Actually doing your daily writs on JC, and I've earned dozens of chromium platings so far. Add in refining and deconning, and it's about 100 total

Just checked my spreadsheets. 38 from doing daily writs since Summerset, and another 15 from refining since the start of 2019. Extrapolating back the drop rates and knowing that my refining amount has been pretty consistent, that'd be another 45 since launch of Summerset (give or take), so about 98 total.

tmbrinks

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Doing daily writs, I seen to get more jewelry ones than blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones.

It's "easier" to get to the max chance of getting JC writs (because they are based on trait knowledge) than it is to get blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones (as they are based on motif knowledge) I'd bet that there are plenty more 7/8/9 trait JC crafters than there are people who have characters with all 60 or so motifs that go into getting better chances on the other 3.

trait knowledge is also effecting blacksmithing etc. ofc motives etc aswell.
but traits still have more influence on those professions than the motifs have.

and crownstore only motifes are excluded in the dropchance calculation.

There are some theories that trait knowledge affects BS/WW/Cloth master writ drop rates. But the official word from ZoS is that it is motif knowledge.

The frequency of Master Writ invites from standard Writ boxes is based on the overall associated tradeskill mastery possessed by the character.
This includes research, Motif knowledge, and achievement completion.

I rescind my statement. This is from the official patch notes when they introduced master writs.

driosketch

I gave up selling them when they wouldn't sell at 100g per voucher. It's cheaper and easier to just destroy anything less than 400 vouchers. I don't even keep the 100+ epic ones anymore because purple, not gold, is my bottleneck.

ZeusChaos25

tmbrinks wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Doing daily writs, I seen to get more jewelry ones than blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones.

It's "easier" to get to the max chance of getting JC writs (because they are based on trait knowledge) than it is to get blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones (as they are based on motif knowledge) I'd bet that there are plenty more 7/8/9 trait JC crafters than there are people who have characters with all 60 or so motifs that go into getting better chances on the other 3.

trait knowledge is also effecting blacksmithing etc. ofc motives etc aswell.
but traits still have more influence on those professions than the motifs have.

and crownstore only motifes are excluded in the dropchance calculation.

There are some theories that trait knowledge affects BS/WW/Cloth master writ drop rates. But the official word from ZoS is that it is motif knowledge.

I know 8 traits for BS, WW, Clothing almost 9 since I'm researching the 9th traits as we speak. Jewelry is the same as I'm an 8 trait on those working on 9. I know about 34 full motif sets.

redspecter23

They are not worth doing. The person responsible for assigning reward values for these items is either bad at math or being told from higher up that they need to be horrible for some reason. Nobody with any logical sense would do these writs for the rewards as you are actually losing, even in the best of circumstances.

They may end up being worthwhile at some point if some other variable changes so keep the better ones stashed away if you want, but something needs to change for that to happen. The prices on materials have long since stabilized so anyone saying that over time the mats will just magically accumulate and drop in price doesn't quite understand that won't just happen without some outside change to drop rates or extraction rates, etc.

Ajax_22

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Jewelry crafting becomes part of ESO plus with Elsweyr. I expect them to make changes to it within a few patches after that.

ZeusChaos25

Ajax_22 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Jewelry crafting becomes part of ESO plus with Elsweyr. I expect them to make changes to it within a few patches after that.

I hope they do because its really a drag right now.

tmbrinks

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Doing daily writs, I seen to get more jewelry ones than blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones.

It's "easier" to get to the max chance of getting JC writs (because they are based on trait knowledge) than it is to get blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones (as they are based on motif knowledge) I'd bet that there are plenty more 7/8/9 trait JC crafters than there are people who have characters with all 60 or so motifs that go into getting better chances on the other 3.

trait knowledge is also effecting blacksmithing etc. ofc motives etc aswell.
but traits still have more influence on those professions than the motifs have.

and crownstore only motifes are excluded in the dropchance calculation.

There are some theories that trait knowledge affects BS/WW/Cloth master writ drop rates. But the official word from ZoS is that it is motif knowledge.

I know 8 traits for BS, WW, Clothing almost 9 since I'm researching the 9th traits as we speak. Jewelry is the same as I'm an 8 trait on those working on 9. I know about 34 full motif sets.

That would explain why you get more JC. you are about 8/9ths of the way done with the thing that increases you drop chance (no motifs for JC, don't have to use style stones). But for BS/WW/Cloth you only have about 1/2 of the motifs (there's approximately 70 that factor in) Base game blues do not, nor do crown store exclusives

ZeusChaos25

redspecter23 wrote: »

They are not worth doing. The person responsible for assigning reward values for these items is either bad at math or being told from higher up that they need to be horrible for some reason. Nobody with any logical sense would do these writs for the rewards as you are actually losing, even in the best of circumstances.

They may end up being worthwhile at some point if some other variable changes so keep the better ones stashed away if you want, but something needs to change for that to happen. The prices on materials have long since stabilized so anyone saying that over time the mats will just magically accumulate and drop in price doesn't quite understand that won't just happen without some outside change to drop rates or extraction rates, etc.

I'll keep the ones that offer high rewards and destroy the others.

tmbrinks

Ajax_22 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Jewelry crafting becomes part of ESO plus with Elsweyr. I expect them to make changes to it within a few patches after that.

Do we know that for sure yet? That has been past practice with Morrowind, but I don't think I've seen anything official.

JKorr

If you price them cheap enough, people will buy them. Have no idea why; I sure won't ever do a master writ for jewelry, but I've sold several.

ZeusChaos25

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

SaintSubwayy wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Doing daily writs, I seen to get more jewelry ones than blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones.

It's "easier" to get to the max chance of getting JC writs (because they are based on trait knowledge) than it is to get blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing ones (as they are based on motif knowledge) I'd bet that there are plenty more 7/8/9 trait JC crafters than there are people who have characters with all 60 or so motifs that go into getting better chances on the other 3.

trait knowledge is also effecting blacksmithing etc. ofc motives etc aswell.
but traits still have more influence on those professions than the motifs have.

and crownstore only motifes are excluded in the dropchance calculation.

There are some theories that trait knowledge affects BS/WW/Cloth master writ drop rates. But the official word from ZoS is that it is motif knowledge.

I know 8 traits for BS, WW, Clothing almost 9 since I'm researching the 9th traits as we speak. Jewelry is the same as I'm an 8 trait on those working on 9. I know about 34 full motif sets.

That would explain why you get more JC. you are about 8/9ths of the way done with the thing that increases you drop chance (no motifs for JC, don't have to use style stones). But for BS/WW/Cloth you only have about 1/2 of the motifs (there's approximately 70 that factor in) Base game blues do not, nor do crown store exclusives

Thanks for the info. Jewelry ones suck, they really need to change this.

Ajax_22

tmbrinks wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

Ajax_22 wrote: »

ZeusChaos25 wrote: »

theyancey wrote: »

You think that anyone would buy them?

That's what I don't know, only the rich people of ESO will buy them tbh.

The only people that buy them are speculators. They buy them now, for cheap, with the expectation that ZOS will one day make changes that bring jewelry crafting more in line with the other professions. The only issue with this is space, which can be mitigated with a second account.

I highly doubt they are gonna change the jewelry crafting anytime soon.

Agreed. They already made the major changes with Wolfhunter patch. With the reduction of platings to upgrade by about half, and the multiplying of the master writs by a factor of about 4. Any changes are going to be minor tweaks. The prices may eventually come down as the supply gets larger, but that may only be a 10-15% reduction, IMO.

Jewelry crafting becomes part of ESO plus with Elsweyr. I expect them to make changes to it within a few patches after that.

Do we know that for sure yet? That has been past practice with Morrowind, but I don't think I've seen anything official.

Yes, they've said multiple times in ESO lives that Summerset will become a DLC.