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Which armor sets are generally considered useless/trash?

fisheatsteel
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I'm trying to make more space in my inventory and bank but I really have no idea which sets are worth keeping vs. being sold to vendors. I've googled to see but so far all I see are links to older posts asking the same or similar questions. I'm guessing the expansions have changed all that quite a bit.

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  • Dracan_Fontom
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    Trainee, Night Mother, Vampire's Cloak and Vampire Lord, All the Undaunted Sets like Undaunted Weaver or Bastion, Destructive Mage, Quick Serpent, Twilights Remedy, Lunar Bastion, All sets in HoF save War Machine and Master architect, Immortal Warrior, Phoenix, Black Rose, Combat Physician, Heem-Ja, Mazzatun, every set in Vaults of Madness except Worm Cult, and Sithis...

    These are just off the top of my head.
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  • Starlock
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    Useless sets are the ones that might as well not exist in the game for me. I'm looking at you, dungeon/trial/arena bind-on-pickup sets. I don't care how neat you look - if you're in a trial, I won't ever use you. Nor will I ever use you if you drop in a DLC dungeon. As for base game dungeons, I will rarely have the patience to bother with you either. You are useless, dungeon/trial/arena bind-on-pickup sets! You can go away until you remember how to be flexible enough to be sold in guild stores or put in people's banks without being bound!
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  • russelmmendoza
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    Drop Training set.
  • fisheatsteel
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    Drop Training set.

    Well I know that. I mean sets as in Strength of the Automaton, Chokethorn, etc. All I ever keep is divine, infused, or sturdy.
  • itscompton
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    most of them
  • D0PAMINE
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    Essance thief
  • fisheatsteel
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    Trainee, Night Mother, Vampire's Cloak and Vampire Lord, All the Undaunted Sets like Undaunted Weaver or Bastion, Destructive Mage, Quick Serpent, Twilights Remedy, Lunar Bastion, All sets in HoF save War Machine and Master architect, Immortal Warrior, Phoenix, Black Rose, Combat Physician, Heem-Ja, Mazzatun, every set in Vaults of Madness except Worm Cult, and Sithis...

    These are just off the top of my head.

    Awesome. Thanks so much. This is exactly what I was looking for. Sounds like the easier question is which sets are worth keeping. :P
  • spartaxoxo
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    Undaunted Infiltrator isn't bad at all.
  • D0PAMINE
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    I used Rattlecage on a PvP Magplar for a while. I liked that set.
  • Dracan_Fontom
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    Trainee, Night Mother, Vampire's Cloak and Vampire Lord, All the Undaunted Sets like Undaunted Weaver or Bastion, Destructive Mage, Quick Serpent, Twilights Remedy, Lunar Bastion, All sets in HoF save War Machine and Master architect, Immortal Warrior, Phoenix, Black Rose, Combat Physician, Heem-Ja, Mazzatun, every set in Vaults of Madness except Worm Cult, and Sithis...

    These are just off the top of my head.

    Awesome. Thanks so much. This is exactly what I was looking for. Sounds like the easier question is which sets are worth keeping. :P

    Sets I'd keep would be Burning spellweave, spinner, spriggans, bone pirate, bloodspawn, chokethorn, vicious ophianian, mending, infallible aether, Jorvulds Legacy, Ebon, Galenwe, Lord Warden, Selene's, Valkyn Skoria, Zaan, Relequen, and Velidreth.

    Again just off the top of my head.
    Edited by Dracan_Fontom on March 15, 2019 2:57AM
  • Androconium
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    Well this theory of yours seems to have hit the nail on the head!
    And it's yours...
    I'm trying to make more space in my inventory and bank but I really have no idea which sets are worth keeping vs. being sold to vendors. I've googled to see but so far all I see are links to older posts asking the same or similar questions. I'm guessing the expansions have changed all that quite a bit.

    Here's a clue: trash the ones that you have no idea about. You'll never remember them anyway.

    Edited by Androconium on March 15, 2019 4:20AM
  • ccfeeling
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    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

  • Banana
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    To long to list here with my typing skills
  • Grandma
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    it's easier to just know what roles you want to do and then know what good sets there are for that role. for every role there's like 4-6 good sets. trash everything else.
    GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer
  • r34lian
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    Trainee + shacklebreaker :trollface:
    Edited by r34lian on March 15, 2019 5:20AM
    2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton
  • D0PAMINE
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

    I tried it, spent more time chasing after the things. Is it different now?
  • Runschei
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    You can find several threads with long lists of useless sets so I'll link the first I found to you

    X
    Edited by Runschei on March 15, 2019 7:07AM
  • White wabbit
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    Normally any that I'm wearing
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

    Well, I recently was trying to implement it for VMA, but from pre-golding testing from 20 minutes of light attacking the dummy I got that it proc rate is more like 6-8% then 15% :( is it still worth it?
  • D0PAMINE
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    I knew someone who golded out the Sithis set on his DK, and was using a Staff. We tried to help him but.....RIP :disappointed:
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Most five piece bonuses are too weak. Some are much, much, much too weak.

    The main ones for which the old analyses are obsolete are:
    • Ones that have been reworked and simply are different than before.
    • Ones that give damage shields -- those were actually strengthened by the Nerfmire patch.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Well, I'm stubborn person so I tried to use a lot of non-meta sets which looked to be situational good... 90% is trash in practice unfortunately which simply don't work like described or is simply weaker even then hundings/julianos/acuity etc
  • zaria
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

    Well, I recently was trying to implement it for VMA, but from pre-golding testing from 20 minutes of light attacking the dummy I got that it proc rate is more like 6-8% then 15% :( is it still worth it?
    Tried it but found it to clunky to use.
    for VMA VO should be better as you fight lots of trash.
    Essense thief should be better on long burns, but its 15% then crit so if your crit chance is 50% then its an 7.5% chance.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Everstorm
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    Trainee, Night Mother, Vampire's Cloak and Vampire Lord, All the Undaunted Sets like Undaunted Weaver or Bastion, Destructive Mage, Quick Serpent, Twilights Remedy, Lunar Bastion, All sets in HoF save War Machine and Master architect, Immortal Warrior, Phoenix, Black Rose, Combat Physician, Heem-Ja, Mazzatun, every set in Vaults of Madness except Worm Cult, and Sithis...

    These are just off the top of my head.

    I rather like Combat Physician for soloing stuff, especially since Murkmire added resists. Coupled with Iceheart and Fortified Brass.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    zaria wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

    Well, I recently was trying to implement it for VMA, but from pre-golding testing from 20 minutes of light attacking the dummy I got that it proc rate is more like 6-8% then 15% :( is it still worth it?
    Tried it but found it to clunky to use.
    for VMA VO should be better as you fight lots of trash.
    Essense thief should be better on long burns, but its 15% then crit so if your crit chance is 50% then its an 7.5% chance.

    Oh if it's from crit then such proc rate makes sense. Though in description it's just light attacks... if it was really proccing 15% of times that set maybe a miracle, at least for vma/soloing.. but as it is now I guess it will be too unreliable. On the other hand, those essences keep on the surface for 15 seconds.. so you may use it when needed not on proc.
    Of course I may gather data in cmx and create bug report.. but given that they can't fix bug with ebon weapons for years, chance that they will fix set which nobody uses is abysmally low.
  • ccfeeling
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    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

    I tried it, spent more time chasing after the things. Is it different now?

    No change at all .
  • ccfeeling
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

    Well, I recently was trying to implement it for VMA, but from pre-golding testing from 20 minutes of light attacking the dummy I got that it proc rate is more like 6-8% then 15% :( is it still worth it?

    The secret is ... I am WW LOL .

    This is my sustain set , there are different combination that WW could run , depends on the player play style , but I just like this one , so far never fail .

    I won't suggest ET in human form rofl !
  • mocap
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    Armor of the Trainee
    (2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
    (5 items) Increases your Max Health, Magicka and Stamina by 1250

    add Twice Born Star with Mage + Tower (or Lord + Mage/Tower whatever)
    add 1x Domihaus
    add 1x Stonekeeper

    all Triune, Prismatic Defense

    ... and bam - we have a superior tank of all resource pools. With suck sustain though ) outside of heavy attacks...
  • MartiniDaniels
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Essance thief

    This is my cored flawless run set ...LOL

    Well, I recently was trying to implement it for VMA, but from pre-golding testing from 20 minutes of light attacking the dummy I got that it proc rate is more like 6-8% then 15% :( is it still worth it?

    The secret is ... I am WW LOL .

    This is my sustain set , there are different combination that WW could run , depends on the player play style , but I just like this one , so far never fail .

    I won't suggest ET in human form rofl !

    Well, of course i was gonna using it for WW bosmer with senche, because WW does more light attacks and his roll-dodges are more like jumps then rolls and it's not a problem to get to that essence, since you need to proc senche and hunter's eye anyway :D
  • Chronocidal
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    no sets really truely worthless

    since it very much depends on an individuals playstyle, an individuals preferred build type and the individuals access to different sets

    after all we dont all have DLC/trial/monster sets piled up in our banks/house storage
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Trainee, Night Mother, Vampire's Cloak and Vampire Lord, All the Undaunted Sets like Undaunted Weaver or Bastion, Destructive Mage, Quick Serpent, Twilights Remedy, Lunar Bastion, All sets in HoF save War Machine and Master architect, Immortal Warrior, Phoenix, Black Rose, Combat Physician, Heem-Ja, Mazzatun, every set in Vaults of Madness except Worm Cult, and Sithis...

    These are just off the top of my head.
    I would add Draugr's Heritage, Salvation, Ashen Grip, Death's Wind, Kvatch Gladiator, Pelinal's Aptitude, Twice Born Star and Oblivion's Edge to the list.
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