Stam DK build

BoaNoite

For stam dk which race works the best in your opinion? also which sets do you recommend and is medium armor viable? thanks

BoaNoite

was thinking of going 5 medium 2 heavy shackle/spriggans 2h/s&b

Rexy18

I've had a lot of success with Bone Pirate, Fortified Brass and Mighty Chudan DW/2h in medium (my build: https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=103938). I play Khajiit but Orc has one of the best passives for stamina now (stam + health + weapon damage) and synergizes even better with high weapon damage builds

iCaliban

My current stam dk: bloodspawn, 5pc medium fortified brass, masters dw front bar, masters bow back bar, agility jewls.

Alucardo

I'm enjoying Imperial on my stam dk, especially considering I run medium (Fortified Brass). Also using Blood Spawn, which is essential for keeping those ults up for resource return. As for the second 5pc, well I haven't settled on anything yet. So far it's between Spriggans and Ravager. Uptime is pretty high on ravager as it can proc on basically anything I do, even noxious.

psychotic13

My build works very well for me,

Race: Orc
x5 Poisonous Serpent
x1 Asylum 2H
x2 Bloodspawn
x5 Cyrodils Ward (on SnB bar)

x5 medium x2 heavy.

BoaNoite

Alucardo wrote: »

I'm enjoying Imperial on my stam dk, especially considering I run medium (Fortified Brass). Also using Blood Spawn, which is essential for keeping those ults up for resource return. As for the second 5pc, well I haven't settled on anything yet. So far it's between Spriggans and Ravager. Uptime is pretty high on ravager as it can proc on basically anything I do, even noxious.

how is your sustain with either of those builds? also which is better orc or nord? and do you run dw/2h?

mursie

chudan
shacklebreaker
ravaging (jewels / 2h maul)
master dw

spike weapon dmg via ravaging to buff minor brutality from your earthen heart passives.
use chudan to free up volatile armor slot and put FOO there for 10% crit and some additional dmg
noxious, venomous, rend, and reverse slice are your dmg abilities (with leap)
fossilize, wings, vigor, rally, quick cloak are your utility for speed, heals, cc, cc removal, and dmg reduction

Grimlok_S

I don't think there is a wrong choice when it comes to racials... they each bring something interesting to the table.

I'm playing an ORC at the moment for the great +stam/health and +Wpn Dmg as well as the sprint synergy in medium.

My second choice would be Nord.. the resists feel really good in medium and could let the guys above drop brass for something more offense oriented. The mag sustain on imperial looks really interesting, and depending on playstyle redguard can be an excellent choice too.

I disagree with running Chudan in medium as you miss out on 12% incoming heals - those % modifiers are one of our best defenses - unless you have insane uptime on wings, which are even harder to sustain without blood spawn's ult gen.

In most situations I find that sDK's kill potential revolves around having ult up to dump into a bruised target and followup execute pressure.. more ults = more wing sustain = tankier + more take own pressure

BoaNoite

I am still torn about to go orc or nord, right now will be wearing bone pirate and shackle to start off with. 5 medium 2 heavy, 2 protective on jewelry

Grimlok_S

Go Nord, then.

Save some stones on one of those prot jewels.

ruikkarikun

What is the best heavy setup now around good survivability?
Also with last patch what traits are good now for 1hand and shield?

Sleep724

ruikkarikun wrote: »

What is the best heavy setup now around good survivability?
Also with last patch what traits are good now for 1hand and shield?

Meta is bloodspawn/7th legion/fury.

Nirnhoned on the 1h with poisons equipped and 2h infused with glyph of choice.

MannKurt

Don't play stamdk, it's the most useless and gimpy spec both heavy and medium

Janoy

I’m not the best at pvp, but it is the primary reason I still play. I’ve recently been enjoying a 5/2 setup with heavy troll king, 3 7th legion body pieces, 2 bone pirate body with 3 jewelry. I run master dual wield with 7th sword and shield. Dubious drink with poisons on my sword and shield bar. It’s a pretty noobie build, and better players still dump on me, but it’s been fun.

Sidebar - shoutout to the random skeleton-poly’d EP mag sorc who was giving me some good 1v1’s in sotha last night near bleakers. Forgot his name, but he wouldn’t interrupt 1v1’s and would even stop attacking me if a random EP joined our fights. Although I would often die anyway, he waited for me to run back, without even messaging lol. There was even a duel where an AD sniper hit me from the back and he streaked through me to go kill him. GG

Wing

note you can run protective jewelry and drop brass for a more offensive set, or run both for even more tankiness.

MannKurt wrote: »

Don't play stamdk, it's the most useless and gimpy spec both heavy and medium

this may seem trolly but other then DK having wings its kind of true, pretty much every other stam class is better.

ruikkarikun

Sleep724 wrote: »

ruikkarikun wrote: »

What is the best heavy setup now around good survivability?
Also with last patch what traits are good now for 1hand and shield?

Meta is bloodspawn/7th legion/fury.

Nirnhoned on the 1h with poisons equipped and 2h infused with glyph of choice.

What about shield trait?

Ragnarock41

Wing wrote: »

note you can run protective jewelry and drop brass for a more offensive set, or run both for even more tankiness.

MannKurt wrote: »

Don't play stamdk, it's the most useless and gimpy spec both heavy and medium

this may seem trolly but other then DK having wings its kind of true, pretty much every other stam class is better.

Much thanks to Wrobel, from god tier to bottom tier :')

DTStormfox

You can try the VENOMWALKER build: https://lmclan.weebly.com/home/venomwalker-stamina-dragonknight-pvp-build

Orc is the best race for StamDK, IMO, because StamDK is the only class getting minor brutality the easy way (Casting an Earthen Heart Ability). This minor buff, buffs the weapon damage and Orc gets a passive weapon damage bonus.
You could also go Nord because Nord has extra ultimate regeneration. Ultimates are the bread and butter for sustain on StamDKs.

Aurielle

I play 1HS/2H on my stamDK. Orc. I build for ultimate generation; Asylum 2H, WW Hide backbar, Bloodspawn, and 7th Legion. All sets synergize well (taking damage affects 7th, WW, and BS). Heroic slash adds even more ultimate generation. You can use Take Flight pretty much whenever you want to with the build. I generally tend to use it to get people into execute mode. It’s pretty hilarious to leap onto someone, spam reverse slice, kill them, and then be just about ready to do it again.

Ragnaroek93

Would recommend going Fury + 7th Legion/Impreg armor in heavy with swoard and board + 2h.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

note you can run protective jewelry and drop brass for a more offensive set, or run both for even more tankiness.

MannKurt wrote: »

Don't play stamdk, it's the most useless and gimpy spec both heavy and medium

this may seem trolly but other then DK having wings its kind of true, pretty much every other stam class is better.

Much thanks to Wrobel, from god tier to bottom tier :')

I hope this is a joke. They're on top together with magsorc (with pet) and stamblade right now lol, far away from being bottom tier.

Ragnarock41

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Would recommend going Fury + 7th Legion/Impreg armor in heavy with swoard and board + 2h.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

note you can run protective jewelry and drop brass for a more offensive set, or run both for even more tankiness.

MannKurt wrote: »

Don't play stamdk, it's the most useless and gimpy spec both heavy and medium

this may seem trolly but other then DK having wings its kind of true, pretty much every other stam class is better.

Much thanks to Wrobel, from god tier to bottom tier :')

I hope this is a joke. They're on top together with magsorc (with pet) and stamblade right now lol, far away from being bottom tier.

Care to explain? StamDK didn't get any kind of buff recently. Petsorcs on the other hand is a quite different case.

Rhaegar75

what do you think about the choice between Stamplar and StamDK. I have both and it's so hard to chose my main now that I've left my Magplar on the shelves for a while

Adenoma

StamDK is pretty fun seeming these days and a lot of directions to go with it. Stamplar looks a bit more fun - imo, it’s a blast to get to legitimately play in medium armor and feels pretty high risk/high reward. If I had time on my hands I would totally give grinding one a go, but I’m too lazy to do undaunted and skill point farm.

DirkRavenclaw

My Stam DK is a PVP Toon, he is Redguard and runs 5 Viper sting, 5 Shacklebreaker and 2 Stormfist, he uses S&B and 2h Axe, when using caltrops, it procs Stormfists hand, its awesome

Sleep724

Fury/7th carry StamDKs. In fact, long time Stam Dk players carry Stam Dk with these sets because they know their class ins & outs. I literally can’t remeber the last time I’ve seen a newer player on this class and rarely see them in BGs and cyrodill. They are bottom tier Stam wise in pvp and only carried by arguably over performing heavy sets and veteran players.

Slap the same sets on a Stam warden and the warden outperforms it in every way.

Ragnarock41

Sleep724 wrote: »

Fury/7th carry StamDKs. In fact, long time Stam Dk players carry Stam Dk with these sets because they know their class ins & outs. I literally can’t remeber the last time I’ve seen a newer player on this class and rarely see them in BGs and cyrodill. They are bottom tier Stam wise in pvp and only carried by arguably over performing heavy sets and veteran players.

Slap the same sets on a Stam warden and the warden outperforms it in every way.

I do agree as of right now fury and seventh are overperforming sets and do carry the class because the synergy is way too good.

Neloth

Sleep724 wrote: »

Fury/7th carry StamDKs. In fact, long time Stam Dk players carry Stam Dk with these sets because they know their class ins & outs. I literally can’t remeber the last time I’ve seen a newer player on this class and rarely see them in BGs and cyrodill. They are bottom tier Stam wise in pvp and only carried by arguably over performing heavy sets and veteran players.

Slap the same sets on a Stam warden and the warden outperforms it in every way.

Not in every way tbh

In 1vs1 stamDK eats stamden alive (or it will go into statement at best for stamden)

When you 1vs1 something competent, stamDK will be better again

Honestly stamden also has some problems (the whole play style rotating around 1 dmg skill and ult, and 9 buffs), which shines in smashing noobs openworld and organized small scale, but lacks in other pvp areas

Ragnarock41

Neloth wrote: »

Sleep724 wrote: »

Fury/7th carry StamDKs. In fact, long time Stam Dk players carry Stam Dk with these sets because they know their class ins & outs. I literally can’t remeber the last time I’ve seen a newer player on this class and rarely see them in BGs and cyrodill. They are bottom tier Stam wise in pvp and only carried by arguably over performing heavy sets and veteran players.

Slap the same sets on a Stam warden and the warden outperforms it in every way.

Not in every way tbh

In 1vs1 stamDK eats stamden alive (or it will go into statement at best for stamden)

When you 1vs1 something competent, stamDK will be better again

Honestly stamden also has some problems (the whole play style rotating around 1 dmg skill and ult, and 9 buffs), which shines in smashing noobs openworld and organized small scale, but lacks in other pvp areas

That depends on setup to be honest. If you play your stamden the same way you play your stamDk(reverb-heroic, bleeds, poisons etc) then it can beat a stamDK very easily, unless you get cheesed by corrosive armor, thats the thing keeping stamDK godly in duels.

StamDK is good in duels by nature but not the one and only dueling god. Many dueling tournaments in last years didn't had a stamDk in their top 5(you can go research on legends tournaments and their winners, there are stamDks here and there but not many, and beaten by specs many would assume bad at dueling. Because meta spec in open world and duel specs are very different things, many classes seem bad at dueling because they have the liberty and reason to build for other purposes, like a DW spin to win build or a snipe build. Does that mean stamdens and stamblade are bad duelists? Hell no.), and well, the latest legends one was won by a werewolf stamsorc I believe and the dizzying tourmanent made by sniker won by a stamblade.

Neloth

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Neloth wrote: »

Sleep724 wrote: »

Fury/7th carry StamDKs. In fact, long time Stam Dk players carry Stam Dk with these sets because they know their class ins & outs. I literally can’t remeber the last time I’ve seen a newer player on this class and rarely see them in BGs and cyrodill. They are bottom tier Stam wise in pvp and only carried by arguably over performing heavy sets and veteran players.

Slap the same sets on a Stam warden and the warden outperforms it in every way.

Not in every way tbh

In 1vs1 stamDK eats stamden alive (or it will go into statement at best for stamden)

When you 1vs1 something competent, stamDK will be better again

Honestly stamden also has some problems (the whole play style rotating around 1 dmg skill and ult, and 9 buffs), which shines in smashing noobs openworld and organized small scale, but lacks in other pvp areas

That depends on setup to be honest. If you play your stamden the same way you play your stamDk(reverb-heroic, bleeds, poisons etc) then it can beat a stamDK very easily, unless you get cheesed by corrosive armor, thats the thing keeping stamDK godly in duels.

StamDK is good in duels by nature but not the one and only dueling god. Many dueling tournaments in last years didn't had a stamDk in their top 5(you can go research on legends tournaments and their winners, there are stamDks here and there but not many, and beaten by specs many would assume bad at dueling. Because meta spec in open world and duel specs are very different things, many classes seem bad at dueling because they have the liberty and reason to build for other purposes, like a DW spin to win build or a snipe build. Does that mean stamdens and stamblade are bad duelists? Hell no.), and well, the latest legends one was won by a werewolf stamsorc I believe and the dizzying tourmanent made by sniker won by a stamblade.

To the second part of your post - I never said that stamDK is toptier dueling class, and I don’t even want to start arguing which one is the best, will leave it to forum warriors. But generally stamDK is good for dueling, glad we both agree on this.

I clarifed my prev post if it was the part which confused you.

> When you 1vs1 something competent, stamDK will be better again (compared to stamden, not to anything else clearly)

All I wanted to say is that stamden brings nothing special for a dueling spec compared to stamDK. Yes, it can use bleeds, poisons, defile (and other tools coming from weapons and stam spec), but so does stamDK. In the meantime, stamDK brings 2 additional strong dots, better sustain, corrosive, leap, and generally better healing.

Seriously, enlighten me which class-specific tools stamden offers over stamDK for dueling matchup between them, and I will acknowledge that I was wrong.

Ragnarock41

Neloth wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Neloth wrote: »

Sleep724 wrote: »

Fury/7th carry StamDKs. In fact, long time Stam Dk players carry Stam Dk with these sets because they know their class ins & outs. I literally can’t remeber the last time I’ve seen a newer player on this class and rarely see them in BGs and cyrodill. They are bottom tier Stam wise in pvp and only carried by arguably over performing heavy sets and veteran players.

Slap the same sets on a Stam warden and the warden outperforms it in every way.

Not in every way tbh

In 1vs1 stamDK eats stamden alive (or it will go into statement at best for stamden)

When you 1vs1 something competent, stamDK will be better again

Honestly stamden also has some problems (the whole play style rotating around 1 dmg skill and ult, and 9 buffs), which shines in smashing noobs openworld and organized small scale, but lacks in other pvp areas

That depends on setup to be honest. If you play your stamden the same way you play your stamDk(reverb-heroic, bleeds, poisons etc) then it can beat a stamDK very easily, unless you get cheesed by corrosive armor, thats the thing keeping stamDK godly in duels.

StamDK is good in duels by nature but not the one and only dueling god. Many dueling tournaments in last years didn't had a stamDk in their top 5(you can go research on legends tournaments and their winners, there are stamDks here and there but not many, and beaten by specs many would assume bad at dueling. Because meta spec in open world and duel specs are very different things, many classes seem bad at dueling because they have the liberty and reason to build for other purposes, like a DW spin to win build or a snipe build. Does that mean stamdens and stamblade are bad duelists? Hell no.), and well, the latest legends one was won by a werewolf stamsorc I believe and the dizzying tourmanent made by sniker won by a stamblade.

To the second part of your post - I never said that stamDK is toptier dueling class, and I don’t even want to start arguing which one is the best, will leave it to forum warriors. But generally stamDK is good for dueling, glad we both agree on this.

I clarifed my prev post if it was the part which confused you.

> When you 1vs1 something competent, stamDK will be better again (compared to stamden, not to anything else clearly)

All I wanted to say is that stamden brings nothing special for a dueling spec compared to stamDK. Yes, it can use bleeds, poisons, defile (and other tools coming from weapons and stam spec), but so does stamDK. In the meantime, stamDK brings 2 additional strong dots, better sustain, corrosive, leap, and generally better healing.

Seriously, enlighten me which class-specific tools stamden offers over stamDK for dueling matchup between them, and I will acknowledge that I was wrong.

Stamden brings burst that ignores blocking, actual burst heals, better sustain, much higher damage, not as high but very close self healing... You know what its easier to list what stamden doesn't have.

The only thing it lacks is corrosive armor's cheesy armor penetration(which is very deadly in duels as I said 200 times already) and %12 healing received. On every other front stamden proves equal or better, and while it doesn't have controllable major mending, it gets it for free which stamDk has to pay for, which again more than makes up for the difference..

I believe shalks is also gonna make up the gap from lack of class dots. Even though a bit tricky to land, if noxious breath can be worked around, I see no excuse for sub assault. For major breach once again both classes have it. No disadvantage for stamden whatsoever.

PS: I'm not confused about anything on your post. I just don't agree that stamDK eats stamden alive. They are pretty much equal provided you can actually land sub assault. I've fought enough stamdens as stamDK, and enough stamDKs as stamden. At first I was at the same conclusion but as I started to get better and better at stam warden my opinion quickly changed.