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WHY make one of the event tickets tied to the Dark Brotherhood prequest of murdering someone?
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✭✭And regarding the tickets... are the Impressarios offering anything other than berries and feathers, yet? (Or is that change coming with Elsweyr?)
I'm at the 12 ticket limit (too murdery, I guess), but I'm not going after any of the Indrik stuff.2 -
Gnortranermara✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you want to remain the "good guy", just roleplay it:
You're not a real hero until you've walked the path of self-conquest, penance, and redemption. So, get bit by a vampire or werewolf so you can black out and go into a bloodlust for a few weeks until the event is over. Then your "real" consciousness can start waking up, fighting back, and conquering the disease. See: it wasn't you. It was the monster, and you slayed it.
When it's all said and done, you can even walk away with a smaller detection radius on horseback, which is extremely helpful.10 -
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✭If you want to maximize tickets you have to play every event even if it involves content that you're not interested in (PvP, dungeons, etc.), but you don't need to do every event if you want the minimum of one evolved indrik. Also the anniversary event will last 5 weeks and give you two tickets for just eating cake once a day, so unless you're allergic to cake or watching your waistline you can afford to skip an event you don't like.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Burn/Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Heal- Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Rage of the Ursauk jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Max Mag Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that only utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (Infused/shock enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on head and everything else Magicka Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Max Health Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant/Stealth-Draining Poison IX), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1:Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver (Shatter Soul).
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Lover for penetration when playing a sorc or temp.
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Thaumaturge, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvE Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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thedovahmon✭✭✭✭LightMaster7 wrote: »
You understand there are kids who play this game?
Implying children actually play this game and are not playing Fortnite, Minecraft, GTA or whatever the next biggest trend is."Voted most likely to reply with a reaction image. According to the Mournhold High School Yearbook."4 -
Billdor✭✭✭✭LightMaster7 wrote: »LIKE WTF kind of message are you trying to put out there with this kind of prerequisite?
WHY must I kill an innocent NPC just to unlock the event quests for Dark Brotherhood?
Who the hell thought this was a good idea?
You understand there are kids who play this game?
I bet your one of those religous people who knock people's doors trying to convert them and have never ever seen murder in their religon. Give me a break.3 -
jpo✭✭✭OP can only rage like this if all of his characters are no-kill pacifist crafters.
Otherwise...go away.4 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lots of pieces of this overall 'Indrik' event. Enough opportunities were intentionally programmed in so you would not have t participate in every single aspect. I'm not touching the DB for example. I know other folks that avoided the PvP portion of the event. And still others who avoided the group dungeon parts. You can get up to two or three times the tickets you need so simply avoid any aspects that you don't like. It's a game.
PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
AarDoTaazokaan✭✭✭Well, all I got to say is all of y'all white knights out there are missing out on the funnest, most viscerally satisfying animations and sound effects ever added to this game. The Blade of Woe never gets old. Peace my brothers and sisters. And Hail Sithis.7 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LightMaster7 wrote: »I think I am asking a legitimate question here.
It doesn't matter if this is a game or what. WHY is there a prerequisite to murdering an innocent NPC just to unlock an event quest?
100% agree...a little harsh language should totally do the trick...maybe even a mean sideways glance...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place5 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Regarding the event I agree, role play vise its bad. For the guild quest itself its good.LightMaster7 wrote: »
Remember hating getting DB invites in Oblivion for sniping bandits who was neutral at this quest stage or killing daedra in the war in shimmering isles.
I liked the TG start quest in Skyrim, not how it was jumped on you but the starting quest, yes we know you are sneaky and can get in pretty much everywhere but can you handle the criminal life, beat up this people for me.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
JayAstrophel✭✭✭✭I don't see how, if you don't like the prereq quest, you would even want to do the event quest sacraments, as they also involve murder. It's sort of what the Dark Brotherhood is all about, after all.TAMRIEL MERCENARIES AND ADVENTURERS SOCIETY
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level cap characters -
Aren'dra - khajiit ww stamblade - DPS - sneak-thief wanderer
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Danara-jo - khajiit vamp magblade - healer - ancient scholar
Lost-In-His-Wanderings - argonian magplar - healer - melancholy dreamer
Riin-daro the Returned- khajiit necro - tank - pieced back together
Paints-the-Skies - argonian magden - DPS - storyteller
Furrin-ko - khajiit magden - healer - wild at heart
Completely-Innocent - argonian magdk - DPS - gets into trouble2 -
Hurbster✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just pretend they are all Anders from Dragon Age 2 and I find I can kill them quite happily.
Several times.So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.3 -
BringerOfOmens✭✭✭I notice the OP didn't take umbrage at the Thieves Guild requiring theft to get the other event ticket so I guess their morality and ethics have lines they are willing to cross
Nice troll.6 -
LightMaster7✭✭✭✭Just reading some of the comments on this thread makes me really depressed at humanity.
Doesn't matter if its a "game". The very idea of killing an innocent person should be avoided entirely in theory and in actual practice.
Tells you the psychological state of the people in this world.1 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LightMaster7 wrote: »Just reading some of the comments on this thread makes me really depressed at humanity.
Doesn't matter if its a "game". The very idea of killing an innocent person should be avoided entirely in theory and in actual practice.
Tells you the psychological state of the people in this world.
Not attacking or anything, but I am genuinely interested to understand your perspective. Say someone wants to roleplay an evil character but no innocent killing is allowed in the game, how will that work? My main is a Chaotic Neutral NB who does whatever seems the most fun, morality no bar. I feel just thinking up some head canon about the character if this bothers you.Edited by susmitds on March 9, 2019 8:19PM5 -
JaZ2091✭✭✭✭✭Surprised you didnt start a petition to remove the DB from the game since its year of the outrage and all.3 -
Ashryn✭✭✭✭✭People like to play different styles. Not everyone will like ALL of the events that will go on to get tickets and that is why there are so many of them; it gives you the freedom to pass those events which bother you.
I can relate to how you feel about violence, as there is too much of it in real life, the books we read, or the movies & TV we watch. However... its also been a part of interesting stories since literally the 'dawn of mankind'. Stories that catch the imagination have all in them: love, hate, kindness, cruelty, cowardice, bravery, greed, generosity, good, bad, etc. Conflict, plain & simple...otherwise the story is one dimensional.
That said, this game does a fairly good job of hitting plenty of all those conflicts, but is far less gory then the movies or TV series (think 'Game of Thrones') that are popular.
I usually play a character who is a neutral/good person. Because I have played almost everything in this world, I went outside my usual fantasy-self and tried the Dark Brotherhood. Yes, at times it makes me squirm...but it is also Fantasy! Its outside my play-style, but I do have to appreciate (and yes...laugh) at some of the diabolical dialog!2 -
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You can make this argument about the Morag Tong who operate inside the rule of engagements.Facefister wrote: »
Thief guild itself is probably legal, no stealing or fencing is an crime but having the TG as your go to pub is not an crime.
Not so much for the DB also show in how killing everybody in an base is an standard procedure.
Morag Tong and TG does not share this.
Also why can not DB lift bounties on you?
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
CassandraGemini✭✭✭✭✭
✭LightMaster7 wrote: »LIKE WTF kind of message are you trying to put out there with this kind of prerequisite?
WHY must I kill an innocent NPC just to unlock the event quests for Dark Brotherhood?
Who the hell thought this was a good idea?
You understand there are kids who play this game?
No offense, but is this your first video game? Except for pure puzzle games or tetris-like stuff, almost every video game involves killing to a certain extent. What do you think happens to all those Gumbas or Koopas Mario jumps on regularly? Or to the poor creatures Yoshi swallows whole and then farts back out again as eggs?
This poor little Bosmer stealth passive had passionate friends and a big loving family!4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LightMaster7 wrote: »Just reading some of the comments on this thread makes me really depressed at humanity.
Doesn't matter if its a "game". The very idea of killing an innocent person should be avoided entirely in theory and in actual practice.
Tells you the psychological state of the people in this world.
You seem to have an issue separating fantasy from reality.
Do you also have this problem with the novels, TV shows, and movies out there, which involve murder/crime/assassination/etc?
Or any of the other games where you effectively play a "badguy". Like GTA, playing the 'enemy' side in various military shooters, etc...13 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its threads like this that break my sarcasm detector.
Not every NPC you have to murder can be Grelod the Kind, who you can sort of halfways justify if you approve of vigilante justice.Edited by VaranisArano on March 9, 2019 8:39PM0 -
Facefister✭✭✭✭✭
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You can make this argument about the Morag Tong who operate inside the rule of engagements.Facefister wrote: »
Thief guild itself is probably legal, no stealing or fencing is an crime but having the TG as your go to pub is not an crime.
Not so much for the DB also show in how killing everybody in an base is an standard procedure.
Morag Tong and TG does not share this.
Also why can not DB lift bounties on you?
Witnesses are more harm than the target itself.0 -
MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Hey, genius it's the dark brotherjhood, assassins, you know. They kill people not bring them balloons and it's fake. If you are outraged please go to your safe space.3 -
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✭LightMaster7 wrote: »Just reading some of the comments on this thread makes me really depressed at humanity.
Doesn't matter if its a "game". The very idea of killing an innocent person should be avoided entirely in theory and in actual practice.
Tells you the psychological state of the people in this world.
Why should it only be the idea of killing an inoccent person to be avoided entirely? Why not all people?are you saying it’s fine to go about killing non-inoccent people, eye for an eye?
Point being my real life views are kept for real life. I enjoy playing video games as a break from life and a hobby. Just because I do something in a game it doesn’t infringe on my real life beliefs or mean that I advocate them. This game is for adults, 18+ it is also just pixels. I get people want to role play but there’s limits.6 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭LightMaster7 wrote: »LIKE WTF kind of message are you trying to put out there with this kind of prerequisite?
WHY must I kill an innocent NPC just to unlock the event quests for Dark Brotherhood?
Who the hell thought this was a good idea?
You understand there are kids who play this game?
Here we go again a 17+ game and a person who just realized it and now tries to complain about it...6
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