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The story of a confused Bosmer

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The first thing I remember is waking up in a cell and a very tall woman barking orders at me, saying to stand back as she was about to open the door to my cell. I had no idea what was going on, so I followed her orders, picked up a weapon from a dead body and began hacking away at anything that would attack us.

She eventually told me I was dead and was in Oblivion, but honestly nothing she did or say make sense. Meeting Sir Cadwell was the bright spot of that day, and when he told me he thought she and the "prophet" were a little soft in the head, it made perfect sense and gave me some clarity to keep on going. (I could go on a tangent here, but that's a story for another day)

Eventually I was back(? Not sure, since like I said, I don't remember anything prior to the prison) in Tamriel, and told to roam the land finding people to help. I didn't know what to do, how to fight, who to believe in...For a while I didn't even know I was a Bosmer. Even that, I had to be told.

I had no money, no home and no one. I fought because I was told to - and because I needed the money. I used things I found or took from people I killed. Every single weapon I had in my hands felt...wrong somehow. I used them, sure, but didn't feel right until I found my first staff.

The very first time I used a staff I knew that was who I was - a sorcerer! I learnt everything I could about magicka, even joined the Mages' Guild (granted, I also joined the Fighters' Guild, but in my defense, I needed the money). I have no loyalties other than to my friends and my pocket. I didn't go into missions out of a sense of loyalty. I knew from the get go that I was a tool, and if I failed my missions, whomever hired me would find someone else - a stronger, better fit fighter.

So I went through the Aldmeri Dominion, doing odd jobs here and there, hoping to come across someone or something that would unlock the memories I knew would be somewhere inside my head. Nothing in Auridon seemed familiar, and I was excited to learn I was going to Grahtwood next. Surely the land of the wood elves would bring me some much needed answers, or at least, clues to my past.

My heart sank when I first step foot in Grahtwood. It didn't feel like home, it was oppressive. Even though the land didn't bring back memories, nor did I find anyone who knew me, the people and situations I've met in Grahtwood did confirm that not only I looked like a Bosmer, I was one of them.

I knew it in my heart, and in every fiber of my being that I was a wood elf, and I was proud of it. I also discovered that even though I was a sorcerer, I wasn't a very good one. Sure, I could complete my missions, but I was just decent and I knew, even back then, that I would never shine as a sorcerer. I stuck to it, though, because I couldn't do any other job.

Somewhere along the way I stole something for the first time. What can I say? Maybe I needed whatever it was and didn't have the money for it. Maybe it was an accident. Maybe I was trying to see if I could steal and get away with it. It doesn't matter. What matter is that at that moment I found out something I was really, really good at. I might be a mediocre sorcerer, but I am a very good thief.

...Or was. This last Morndas I woke up feeling funny. I have some unfinished business in Vvardenfell, so I decided to drop by, and I felt odd. The world felt odd. I decided to take it slow that day and didn't do much. I went to bed wondering if I'd just woken up on the wrong side of the bed or something. Then yesterday I went to the Clockwork City, and I found out I'm not that good at stealing anymore.

There is this one bag by a group of students who are playing dice - if you've been there, you know what I'm talking about. The bag is just tossed against a wall, and everybody is too preoccupied with the game to pay attention to it. I've ran past it a hundred times. Heck! I stole from it dozens of times. I took pride in doing it too, because it isn't easy - what with all those people around and the guards walking by.

Every single time, until yesterday, I was able to steal from that bag. Not anymore. I spent a good ten minutes trying to figure out a good angle of approach. I've tried every trick I know, I even put on some magical gear that is said to make me less detectable. The loot inside that bag was too good to pass, so I got a bounty for it.

What happened to me? Which deity is so angry with me that they thought to punish me is such a cruel way? They took away the only thing I was good at. Why?
  • twing1_
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    Cuz ZOS's rebalance wasn't done as well as it could have been.

    Heres this:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459197/racial-rebalance-v4-3-x#latest

    I wish I could help you out... But I'm only dreaming
  • Acrolas
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    I'm a Bosmer.
    I can no longer /teatime in a guard's face while burdened with 200 stolen items and a 250,000 gold bounty.

    But otherwise very little has changed. I might have to be slightly more careful in areas with less environmental obstacles.
    But my IC teammates like me because I can point out any bomb scrubs in Barathrum Centrata so it all balances out.
    signing off
  • DocFrost72
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    I don't agree with the message but I gave you an awesome cause that was a fun read.
  • OsManiaC
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    There is a really basic fix for it. Make it old version in pve/against npc only. They took away the best thing.
    Edited by OsManiaC on February 27, 2019 8:27PM
    GM of The Argonian Kebab, The Argonian Steak & The Argonian BBQ - PC - EU (The Tamriel Kitchen) @OsManiaC

    Don't worry, the tail grows back!
    if it breathes we eats. #justbosmerthings - we can detect stealth boy NPCs and hunt them thanks to our skill!

    https://steamcommunity.com/id/osmaniac
  • Cundu_Ertur
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    Night terror is an overland set with +2m stealth at the 3 item point. Night Silence is craftable and only negates the movement penalty at 5 items. Night Mother's Embrace is overland with +2 stealth at the 5 item point. There is no way to run all 3 that I can think of. Unless you can grow an extra head. Note that night terror and night mother's embrace also decrease the stamina cost for sneaking. Shadowdancer is a light armor set that also negates the movement penalty at 5 items, but most gives magicka bonuses. I can't think of any other good sets for stealth. I think the night terror is better used if you have Maelstrom-like weapons equipped.

    I just finished grinding for NME jewelry, I ended up buying the bows. Still need to transmute to get the traits I want for the rings. I'm trying NME (2 bows + jewelry) + NS (armor, less head and shoulder) to see how that works for overland. I can really feel the loss of the bonus, too.
    Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.
  • DocFrost72
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    Night terror is an overland set with +2m stealth at the 3 item point. Night Silence is craftable and only negates the movement penalty at 5 items. Night Mother's Embrace is overland with +2 stealth at the 5 item point. There is no way to run all 3 that I can think of. Unless you can grow an extra head. Note that night terror and night mother's embrace also decrease the stamina cost for sneaking. Shadowdancer is a light armor set that also negates the movement penalty at 5 items, but most gives magicka bonuses. I can't think of any other good sets for stealth. I think the night terror is better used if you have Maelstrom-like weapons equipped.

    I just finished grinding for NME jewelry, I ended up buying the bows. Still need to transmute to get the traits I want for the rings. I'm trying NME (2 bows + jewelry) + NS (armor, less head and shoulder) to see how that works for overland. I can really feel the loss of the bonus, too.

    Nights silence and Shadowdancer are redundant if you already have stage four vampirism, so you can run both detection radius sets.
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    anadandy wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Night terror is an overland set with +2m stealth at the 3 item point. Night Silence is craftable and only negates the movement penalty at 5 items. Night Mother's Embrace is overland with +2 stealth at the 5 item point. There is no way to run all 3 that I can think of. Unless you can grow an extra head. Note that night terror and night mother's embrace also decrease the stamina cost for sneaking. Shadowdancer is a light armor set that also negates the movement penalty at 5 items, but most gives magicka bonuses. I can't think of any other good sets for stealth. I think the night terror is better used if you have Maelstrom-like weapons equipped.

    I just finished grinding for NME jewelry, I ended up buying the bows. Still need to transmute to get the traits I want for the rings. I'm trying NME (2 bows + jewelry) + NS (armor, less head and shoulder) to see how that works for overland. I can really feel the loss of the bonus, too.

    Nights silence and Shadowdancer are redundant if you already have stage four vampirism, so you can run both detection radius sets.

    If you want to be a vampire.

    Are we building meta or no?
  • alanmatillab16_ESO
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    KMarble wrote: »
    The thing I do well in this game is steal. I'm patient and know how to wait and find the perfect angle. This patch took away my play style. I'll (hopefully, learn and adapt - if possible), but for now I am at loss.

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    No, it didn't.

    For it to have removed your playstyle (the same one as my Nord Thief) after the patch it must have been impossible for any race other than Bosmer to have been a thief BEFORE the patch since by your definition only the Bosmer passive was what made it possible.

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    Night terror is an overland set with +2m stealth at the 3 item point. Night Silence is craftable and only negates the movement penalty at 5 items. Night Mother's Embrace is overland with +2 stealth at the 5 item point. There is no way to run all 3 that I can think of. Unless you can grow an extra head. Note that night terror and night mother's embrace also decrease the stamina cost for sneaking. Shadowdancer is a light armor set that also negates the movement penalty at 5 items, but most gives magicka bonuses. I can't think of any other good sets for stealth. I think the night terror is better used if you have Maelstrom-like weapons equipped.

    I just finished grinding for NME jewelry, I ended up buying the bows. Still need to transmute to get the traits I want for the rings. I'm trying NME (2 bows + jewelry) + NS (armor, less head and shoulder) to see how that works for overland. I can really feel the loss of the bonus, too.
    Yep, all my thieves run 3x Night Terror, 5x Night's Silence, and 2x monster set. But as of Monday, my Bosmer main can't steal from a blind man, however.... my Khajiit thieves have actually gotten stealthier. They can now sneak past aggro mobs that they never could before, and can steal undetected things they would usually get caught for in the past. Not sure what ZOS did for the cats, but they made them better thieves.
    RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.
  • anadandy
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    Wish I could say that surprised me.
  • Aela_Dragonrider
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    If I could I'd give a +insightful, +agree, and +awesome.

    What he said ^

    Awesome read, @KMarble!
  • Arato
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    Night terror is an overland set with +2m stealth at the 3 item point. Night Silence is craftable and only negates the movement penalty at 5 items. Night Mother's Embrace is overland with +2 stealth at the 5 item point. There is no way to run all 3 that I can think of. Unless you can grow an extra head. Note that night terror and night mother's embrace also decrease the stamina cost for sneaking. Shadowdancer is a light armor set that also negates the movement penalty at 5 items, but most gives magicka bonuses. I can't think of any other good sets for stealth. I think the night terror is better used if you have Maelstrom-like weapons equipped.

    I just finished grinding for NME jewelry, I ended up buying the bows. Still need to transmute to get the traits I want for the rings. I'm trying NME (2 bows + jewelry) + NS (armor, less head and shoulder) to see how that works for overland. I can really feel the loss of the bonus, too.

    See here's the thing. Most people already used those items AND had the racial stealth, so no you suggesting this is #1, not helping anyone out with something new they didn't know about and #2, not replacing what was lost.
  • Kalle_Demos
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    Arato wrote: »
    If you're disatisfied with the change and especially of the way ZOS has been treating their community since the changes with a wall of silence, moderation and trying to hush everyone from complaining, be sure to cancel your subs, don't buy crowns, cancel Elsweyr preorders. Because that's the only way they'll listen to us that isn't you know, literally torches and pitchforks and physical violence.

    Done.

    "If I am to be Queen, I must look fear in the face and conquer it. How can I ask my people to have faith in me if I don't have faith in myself?" - Queen Ayrenn
  • Minyassa
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Hey mods!!!!

    This is a criticism of ZoS's removal of Stealth.

    This is is in the wrong forum, it should be put back into general.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • JayAstrophel
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    Super cool post!
    I agree, though, definitely needs to be moved back.
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  • Swergdach
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    Brilliant!
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