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How much resistance is too much resistance ?
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There are no diminishing returns. You get 1% damage reduction for every 660 points of resistance, and 33000 resistance gives you the maximum damage mitigation (50%), however keep in mind that enemies who have penetration reduce your resistance by that number. So there is no clear answer to your question, because it depends on who is attacking you.7 -
ZeroXFF✭✭✭✭✭
✭There are no diminishing returns. You get 1% damage reduction for every 660 points of resistance, and 33000 resistance gives you the maximum damage mitigation (50%), however keep in mind that enemies who have penetration reduce your resistance by that number. So there is no clear answer to your question, because it depends on who is attacking you.
*33100 and 662/1%Edited by ZeroXFF on February 14, 2019 6:47AM2 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There are no diminishing returns. You get 1% damage reduction for every 660 points of resistance, and 33000 resistance gives you the maximum damage mitigation (50%), however keep in mind that enemies who have penetration reduce your resistance by that number. So there is no clear answer to your question, because it depends on who is attacking you.
*33100 and 662/1%
33,000 and 660.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-updated-for-murkmire/p1. For Champion point 160+ characters the hard cap for resistance is 33,000, or 660 resistance per 1% mitigated, which then tops it of at 50%.2 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭Stacking the same type of resistance is technically the opposite of diminishing returns, since the last percentage point of resistance you stack reduces damage taken more than the first percentage point of resistance.
Choosing 1% physical resistance instead of 0% means the damage taken goes from 100% to 99%, a change of 1%. When you're at 49% mitigation and add another 1%, the damage taken goes from 51% to 50%, a 2% change in damage taken (51-50)÷51
But you could call it diminishing when choosing more resistance over stats/crit/Regen reduces the overall effectiveness of other functions of your build.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Any amount that zaps too much damage/sustain from your build so you hit like a wet noodle swung by a 700 pound man.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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ZeroXFF✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »There are no diminishing returns. You get 1% damage reduction for every 660 points of resistance, and 33000 resistance gives you the maximum damage mitigation (50%), however keep in mind that enemies who have penetration reduce your resistance by that number. So there is no clear answer to your question, because it depends on who is attacking you.
*33100 and 662/1%
33,000 and 660.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-updated-for-murkmire/p1. For Champion point 160+ characters the hard cap for resistance is 33,000, or 660 resistance per 1% mitigated, which then tops it of at 50%.
Just looked it up... I was off in regards to the calculation, but the PvE cap is still 33100, not 33k.
Courtesy of @paulsimonpsThis was done against Veteran Saint Olms, the attack is his Swipe attack.
Base Damage 172753
751 Resistance - 171028 - 0.99853548129%
760 Resistance - 171025 - 1.00027206474%
761 Resistance - 171023 - 1.00142978704%
762 Resistance - 171020 - 1.00316637048%
1420 Resistance - 169298 - 1.99996526833%
1421 Resistance - 169295 - 2.00170185178%
1424 Resistance - 169287 - 2.00633274097%
33099 Resistance - 86379 - 49.9985528471%
33100 Resistance - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
0 Resistance (blocking) - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
34883 Resistance - 86377 - 49.9997105694%0 -
Soris✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gear-wise, usually, 5 pieces heavy armor + 1x pirate + 1x lord warden (2x armor/resist bonus) is just bellow the "too much resistance" psycological cap. This should put you around 30k armor and resist with major armor buffs. Above that point, any extra armor will start diminishing from your damage or sustain as you build for MOAR tankiness rather than damage/sustain.Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »There are no diminishing returns. You get 1% damage reduction for every 660 points of resistance, and 33000 resistance gives you the maximum damage mitigation (50%), however keep in mind that enemies who have penetration reduce your resistance by that number. So there is no clear answer to your question, because it depends on who is attacking you.
*33100 and 662/1%
33,000 and 660.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-updated-for-murkmire/p1. For Champion point 160+ characters the hard cap for resistance is 33,000, or 660 resistance per 1% mitigated, which then tops it of at 50%.
Just looked it up... I was off in regards to the calculation, but the PvE cap is still 33100, not 33k.
Courtesy of @paulsimonpsThis was done against Veteran Saint Olms, the attack is his Swipe attack.
Base Damage 172753
751 Resistance - 171028 - 0.99853548129%
760 Resistance - 171025 - 1.00027206474%
761 Resistance - 171023 - 1.00142978704%
762 Resistance - 171020 - 1.00316637048%
1420 Resistance - 169298 - 1.99996526833%
1421 Resistance - 169295 - 2.00170185178%
1424 Resistance - 169287 - 2.00633274097%
33099 Resistance - 86379 - 49.9985528471%
33100 Resistance - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
0 Resistance (blocking) - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
34883 Resistance - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
Was that before or after they took away the base 100 pen from everything.2 -
ZeroXFF✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »There are no diminishing returns. You get 1% damage reduction for every 660 points of resistance, and 33000 resistance gives you the maximum damage mitigation (50%), however keep in mind that enemies who have penetration reduce your resistance by that number. So there is no clear answer to your question, because it depends on who is attacking you.
*33100 and 662/1%
33,000 and 660.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-updated-for-murkmire/p1. For Champion point 160+ characters the hard cap for resistance is 33,000, or 660 resistance per 1% mitigated, which then tops it of at 50%.
Just looked it up... I was off in regards to the calculation, but the PvE cap is still 33100, not 33k.
Courtesy of @paulsimonpsThis was done against Veteran Saint Olms, the attack is his Swipe attack.
Base Damage 172753
751 Resistance - 171028 - 0.99853548129%
760 Resistance - 171025 - 1.00027206474%
761 Resistance - 171023 - 1.00142978704%
762 Resistance - 171020 - 1.00316637048%
1420 Resistance - 169298 - 1.99996526833%
1421 Resistance - 169295 - 2.00170185178%
1424 Resistance - 169287 - 2.00633274097%
33099 Resistance - 86379 - 49.9985528471%
33100 Resistance - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
0 Resistance (blocking) - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
34883 Resistance - 86377 - 49.9997105694%
Was that before or after they took away the base 100 pen from everything.
They took away 100 pen from players, not NPCs.
paulsimonps 21/01/2019 on the tank discord:You would have to do the math yourself. Its simple enough, just look at all your resistance sources and add it together. Cap is 33000, but in reality in PvE its 33100 cause Mobs have 100 pen0 -
paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Want to confirm the quotes and say Cap is 33,000 and mobs still have a base 100pen so cap in PvE is 33,100. Though most accurate way to calculate it is, (resist-100)/660 and not the 662. Both are close and if you don't care too much quick math with 662 will still get you what you want.2
