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Altmer and Dunmer diversity
martijnlv40
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There is little difference in choosing one over the other at the moment. I’d like to see the trade off that is in live. So here are some suggestions to change it.
The Altmer changes are for the spellcharge passive.
1000 penetration (baseline)
1000 penetration and 50 magicka regeneration after using a class ability for 6 seconds. 6 second cooldown.
5% extra enchantment potency.
Gain 325 magicka and stamina after using a class ability. 6 second cooldown.
I think all of these changes would be cool and make for a more interesting pick, not only between Altmer and Dunmer, but in general. The penetration would give more freedom with some Cp, the penetration with regen the same, but with giving you ~240 magicka back for each class ability. The enchantment potency might be too good, but it still fits with the lore (and helpful for stamina toons too! As they seem to want that for Altmer..) and lastly the magicka and stamina is both a utility and recovery passive, just for it to not be useless to a group of players.
For dunmer I’d change the magicka and stamina resource to 1750 (a bit more difference so that the choice matters) and give 150 spell damage to flame damage abilities.
This gives dunmer the cool flame damage bonus back which makes it unique, but a bit lower magicka, and missing that bit of sustain or raw power so that the trade-off is there. Honestly I cannot comprehend why no one in the balance team thought about adding the spell damage to the dunmer instead of a % as it is on live. Why did they just remove it?!
The Altmer changes are for the spellcharge passive.
1000 penetration (baseline)
1000 penetration and 50 magicka regeneration after using a class ability for 6 seconds. 6 second cooldown.
5% extra enchantment potency.
Gain 325 magicka and stamina after using a class ability. 6 second cooldown.
I think all of these changes would be cool and make for a more interesting pick, not only between Altmer and Dunmer, but in general. The penetration would give more freedom with some Cp, the penetration with regen the same, but with giving you ~240 magicka back for each class ability. The enchantment potency might be too good, but it still fits with the lore (and helpful for stamina toons too! As they seem to want that for Altmer..) and lastly the magicka and stamina is both a utility and recovery passive, just for it to not be useless to a group of players.
For dunmer I’d change the magicka and stamina resource to 1750 (a bit more difference so that the choice matters) and give 150 spell damage to flame damage abilities.
This gives dunmer the cool flame damage bonus back which makes it unique, but a bit lower magicka, and missing that bit of sustain or raw power so that the trade-off is there. Honestly I cannot comprehend why no one in the balance team thought about adding the spell damage to the dunmer instead of a % as it is on live. Why did they just remove it?!
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validifyedneb18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Look. ZOS have Clearly stated their reasons for removing the regen from Altmer. And they still sim top for magDD.
So if you're going to suggest changes, how about to take what ZOS has actually said into account. You want them to listen? Start by listening to them and suggest something else.EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
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martijnlv40✭✭✭To disagree with them should not be bad. And I do disagree, a bit of sustain should not be a problem, if you give the dunmer something else as well.
Also, there are other suggestions I propse.0 -
twing1_✭✭✭✭There is already a thread describing this in great detail: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/457979/lack-of-racial-identity-between-altmer-and-dunmer#latest
A lot of ideas have already been fiercely debated on that thread, but I'm with you. Comment your ideas there and keep the thread alive.0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you want to give Altmer back Magicka regen, decrease their Spell damage or max. Magicka. There must be something you trade in on the "Magicka" DPS front to get sustain additionally.Edited by Seraphayel on February 12, 2019 2:44PMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -2 -
twing1_✭✭✭✭I feel forgetting the magicka regen is the best bet. Give them something with very niche marginal magicka utility instead, like increased chance to apply status effects.3
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validifyedneb18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I feel forgetting the magicka regen is the best bet. Give them something with very niche marginal magicka utility instead, like increased chance to apply status effects.
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Listen to this guy. ZOS have stated their reasons, y'all just ignoring that and asking for a reversal.EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
NA: Magplar, Magden, PotatoBlade0