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Khajiit no longer gets an increase to crit but gets more crit damage??

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Azyle1
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Is... is that a buff or a nerf? xD
  • BoFitz
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    quick someone run the NUMBERS!
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Situational and can work good if spend more building Crit chance.

    NB and Templar will off-course perform better on Khajit
  • Azyle1
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    BoFitz wrote: »
    quick someone run the NUMBERS!

    I know right. I am at work. NEED TO KNOW.
  • Dracane
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    That is the question. This change is a case for an added developer comment. So we know what the goal of this is.
    I see cases where this definately is a buff.
    Edited by Dracane on February 11, 2019 6:49PM
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  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    Actually hard to tell lol. Seems like there could be a nice stacking with a crit damage class and Khajeet. Removed the imbalance from the shadow buff though for sure.
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  • techprince
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    There goes my Briarheart set out of the window.
  • Darkonflare15
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    Well there goes my crit.
  • Azyle1
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    On the top of my head, this has to be a buff right? All stamina classes that I have played ( NB and Warden ) already sit around 50% plus crit chance. So... increasing that damage would be a buff as it isn't as random as crit chance.
  • zaria
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    validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
    Actually hard to tell lol. Seems like there could be a nice stacking with a crit damage class and Khajeet. Removed the imbalance from the shadow buff though for sure.
    Shadow and templar, also stacking crit damage.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Feanor
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    I mean, Khajiit just gets Minor Force as passive now. Wow.
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    WereWolf crit build just got good buff for PVE
  • Eso101rus
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    Free basic shadow Mundas but removing crit chance is very naughty, it was what made khajitt. Big oops here.
  • Azyle1
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    Feanor wrote: »
    I mean, Khajiit just gets Minor Force as passive now. Wow.

    It will still stack with Minor Force, right??
  • codestripper
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    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    I mean, Khajiit just gets Minor Force as passive now. Wow.

    It will still stack with Minor Force, right??

    They didn't specify minor force so my best guess is yes.
    Since everyone seems to be doing this,
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  • ToRelax
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    Idk about PvE, but it's definitely a buff for most PvP builds.
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  • BigBadVolk
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    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    I mean, Khajiit just gets Minor Force as passive now. Wow.

    It will still stack with Minor Force, right??

    ye it will stack with both minor and major force
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  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    This is a buff if your crit chance is above 100% :trollface:
    Edited by luen79rwb17_ESO on February 11, 2019 6:56PM
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  • zaria
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    codestripper wrote: »
    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    I mean, Khajiit just gets Minor Force as passive now. Wow.

    It will still stack with Minor Force, right??

    They didn't specify minor force so my best guess is yes.
    Buffs who are not named as effects stack with anything.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • karthrag_inak
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    wow, that's a pretty sweeping change for this late in pts cycle. "let's just completely remove a fundamental characteristic of khajiit cuz...well, i don't know, because we can? ".

    oh, i know. "Deez guyz on da forumz have da numberz. look at all da numberz! wow, dat's a lotta numberz. Let's change all these things!"

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  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    Eso101rus wrote: »
    Free basic shadow Mundas but removing crit chance is very naughty, it was what made khajitt. Big oops here.

    Not when you can stack it with Shadow mundus and Minor Force. 32% bonus crit chance for 182% now WITHOUT CP OR Divines. with CP you're at almost 200% crit damage which is mental. With CP, Divines, Templar or Nightblade, you're looking at well over 200%.

    But nah, you right, "big oops", Khajiit have totally lost all their racial identity from this small change.
    Edited by validifyedneb18_ESO on February 11, 2019 6:58PM
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  • Feanor
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    BigBadVolk wrote: »
    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    I mean, Khajiit just gets Minor Force as passive now. Wow.

    It will still stack with Minor Force, right??

    ye it will stack with both minor and major force

    Yes, and that’s +35% damage done on crits then. Yikes.

    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • OneKhajiitCrimeWave
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    Ok, so looking at base glance, your standard meta setup of AY and Relequen on a Stamina Warden (full stacks of Yokeda) usually put players in the 65-75% mark for weapon crit in 7 medium.

    Sooooooooooooooooooo that would appear to be a buff to most stam classes at first glance. it affects their magicka class side though.
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Idk about PvE, but it's definitely a buff for most PvP builds.

    NB yes as Cloak gives 100% guarantee critical hit but templars / other classes not really!
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    I can be sure this is a buff for khajiit ganking setups, anything else is bound to testing
  • SaintSubwayy
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    techprince wrote: »
    There goes my Briarheart set out of the window.

    ahhh to the other sets like NMG and SF, we can now add BH...nice the pile grows and grows, and diversity shrinks and shrinks
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  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    Double post

    Edited by validifyedneb18_ESO on February 11, 2019 6:59PM
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  • Facefister
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    Mechanical Acuity might have a comeback.
  • Edziu
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    for me this woudl be nerf as for now Im happy with running axe+dagger on dual...but with this change now I will be forced to use and farm 2 dagger like every other race
    I dont like it even if it would be buff in numbers in dps, I just wanted to not be forced to use dual daggers like everyone for great numbers
  • Turelus
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    Don't worry, we'll all freak and then it'll change again next week. :tongue:

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