Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Encase is an AOE immobilize, so you stack with silver leash and hold the mobs still with encase, for your DPS to safely burn them down.
What do your bars currently look like?
I don't use talons on my dk, and talons have an overwhelming advantage over encase. -15% damage to the enemies. you can still use it if you don't have other skills you want on your bars.
I don't use talons on my dk, and talons have an overwhelming advantage over encase. -15% damage to the enemies. you can still use it if you don't have other skills you want on your bars.
I only just started so nothing but 1h/s skills and pet for now.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
Talons also give a synergy. Encase does give a nice advantage to you though, +30% healing received, for up to 8 seconds. That is pretty good.
Not really specific. Only 2 skills from the S/b line that are worth running for a pve tank, most of the time are heroic slash and Pierce armor, though it has been recently found out that the 8% damage reduction from absorb magic is addative and not multiplicative with block, making it a lot more attractive.
yea sorry, my bad, should have been clearer. Meant I have just the 2 skills, meaning pierce and slash and yea will be slotting absorb magic as well! Also, Bound Armor no longer a thing? Again, all of this is coming from builds I could find, might not be what people are actually using, thus my post. Cheers!
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
Bound armor is also addative, with both block and absorb magic, though I am not sure you would have enough space on your bars with the pet having to be double barred.
If I was to make ansorc tank, I suppose I would have the bars look like this-
Front bar s/b
Absorb magic, clannfear, boundless storm, heroic slash, Pierce armor, ulti absorption field/spell wall
Back bar ice staff
Dark deal, clannfear, restraining prison, silver leash, wall of elements, ulti warhorn.
This has everything you need. Maybe swap boundless and dark deal. You could try bound armor instead of absorb magic, 36% increase in damage for 3 seconds for 4k mag or 3.5k Stam, depending on your morph choice. Depends on how confident you are at predicting damage, personally, I would rather have the constant, free effect.
Schattenfluegel wrote: »The Problem with the sorc Talons is (if i remember correctly), they can miss the target...in PvP AND PvE.
Dark Deal is very very strong on the SorcTank, but you have to find your Timewindow for it. You can use it on much bosses, if you activate it at the right time. Its basicly like the DK Ressourcereg, if you build on Magickareg - you can use Dark Deal very often. Even if you play with pets (which i dont).
My Sorctank is based on Magicka, Highelf - and it will be an Highelf after the patch.
Health! I believe a tank needs the health and my pet heal is based off that. I an get resources from other places.
Is your sorc tank magicka based or stamina based? I have been looking for more ways to utilise my StamSorc
Ok, trying out Sorc tank and its loads of fun. I went cruising the webs for build input and I noticed that none of the builds I found had them using Encase/ morph to Restraining Prison for a cc, very much like DK claws?
Is there a reason for this that I am not seeing....cost, etc.? Because they look like a good skill to use and would help fill those missing gaps of no CC (other than Time Stop and Caltrops) and then there is Silver Leash which works quite nice but a tad costly so use sparingly.
So yea, enlighten me to what I am missing or would a build using these be just fine?
Also, how tricky is Dark Deal to use? I read that its great but you have to be careful as you drop your block...so just a timing thing or not take it if to big a risk? Cheers!
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »not sure what you mean "it misses", it is directional yes, you have to be looking at the mobs you what to use encase on, but that really ought no be a problem with it being 18 x 6 meters large, which is 108 square meters, talons has a radius of 6 meters, which is an area of 113.097 square meters, so they are basically the same size.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »solid points. what makes you not use the clannfear?
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »]
tanks are hybrids, if you are not using both your resources, you are wasting your potential.
usmcjdking wrote: »https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=107929
OP, this is my current loadout.
With the exception of Clannfear/Wall, the entire backbar is flex spots. Plenty room for encase + leash+ another skill although I would NOT use leash on trash pulls without dark deal.
Schattenfluegel wrote: »Are you really sure about that?
Actually i play an old Ultiregbuild, and it works. Metatanking is only ONE way to tank, but there are more.