Movement, ice wardens, and curse eater

Jabassa

Coming from a PvP player...

Movement in PVP is absolutely terrible. With all due respect, it's pathetic how neglected this issue is. What good is even playing in PVP if you're constantly perma-rooted/immobilized? The heck with Sheogorath and his weapon, FIX THIS FIRST! AND NO, THE ANSWER SHOULD NOT COME FROM A SET BONUS (like curse eater) OR A SKILL. You guys and gals need to fix the mechanics of how this works. I mean come on, it's like this is turning into a turn based game, it's sad.

Frost wardens are absolutely ridiculous. They are so overpowered as is, and now with these patch notes that is going to get increased incredibly. There is no point in PVPing any other class based off these patch notes. It's quickly becoming a pay-to-win class. The heck with Sheogorath and his weapon, FIX THIS FIRST!

Curse eater, as someone who mains a Templar PVP healer, I absolutely love this. Unfortunately, the truth is it is way too strong. I want to see this stay, but to balance, Id increase the cool down considerably. 20 or something like that.

Everything else looks awesome, keep it up!

Side notes:

Two Hand NEEDS some love! Cleave and Uppercut in particular, are buggy as crap in PVP. Connecting with either ability is more of a crap shoot than anything.

One Hand enchant nerf from this patch unintentionally nerfs the snot out of One Hand and Sheild.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Put a resist frost glyph on your jewelry and you will never be rooted by ice wall.

ESO_Nightingale

Snares just need a little more counterplay. They arent overpowered. Frost wardens don't kill. Their kill to assist ratio is 1:5 but that isn't to say there are no options for snares. You can run elusive mist, forward momentum, shuffle. Maybe run immovable pots. Try mobility you have acess to.

Doesn't help that zos nerfed movement. But it does have some counterplay.

Jabassa

Snares are way too prevalent though, that's my point. Ever since murkmire, movement has been god-awful.

Sub assault just seems to always hit like a truck, and now thanks to these frost friendly sets, the warden is receiving more (unneeded) buffs

ESO_Nightingale

Jabassa wrote: »

Snares are way too prevalent though, that's my point. Ever since murkmire, movement has been god-awful.

Sub assault just seems to always hit like a truck, and now thanks to these frost friendly sets, the warden is receiving more (unneeded) buffs

I understand that you're upset. Hey i was *** angry when they destroyed expedition. But you can work around snares you just need to use the tools available. Believe it or not. Frost is actually garbage. It doesn't deal that much damage and it has very little support. It had 3 real sets before wrathstone when fire had around 18 sets including several monster helmets. Good weapon passives and good class skills and passives via dragonknight . But there are a few snares on some of the ice skills. They are annoying in pvp. True. But they shouldn't recieve a nerf. In pve and pvp the snares are the only things keeping most of it alive. Apart from Winter's Revenge in pve which is wardens class aoe. It's being kept alive because its a pretty essential tool for a DD. all classes use theirs. Ours just happens to deal frost damage. If it dealt flame or shock damage it would be so much better and i hate to say that but its true.

Jabassa

you must not be playing the same game as me. These guys are hitting like glass cannons with the survivability of a trials tank. I very rarely am seeing them go down (I play no cp) even with 4 people on them. I know skill plays a huge role, but this is 70-80% of the wardens I encounter and not everyone is a Feng Rush or SypherPK

Jabassa

I'm definitely not upset, it's just a game right? This IS a problem though. The constant snares is my biggest gripe with the game

ESO_Nightingale

Jabassa wrote: »

you must not be playing the same game as me. These guys are hitting like glass cannons with the survivability of a trials tank. I very rarely am seeing them go down (I play no cp) even with 4 people on them. I know skill plays a huge role, but this is 70-80% of the wardens I encounter and not everyone is a Feng Rush or SypherPK

I also play no cp. It's a sign that your build isn't survivable enough. Maybe you have sustain issues. Maybe you aren't playing with your group. Maybe you are a glass cannon healer. But i know that it's not them. Because their KD is consistant. Its how the build is. Its built for group support and survival.

Try slotting Elusive Mist. It will make a big difference in your survival and snare immunity.

Jabassa

I also know that there's counter play, but it's incredibly disproportionate

ESO_Nightingale

Jabassa wrote: »

I also know that there's counter play, but it's incredibly disproportionate

Yeah. We know. But you have to make do. I've sent a letter to ZOS 2 days ago talking about ice. And i explained in it, that instead of nerfing snares, like people suggest, there needs to be more counterplay. Its an issue that has been reported. Class reps know and have said to Zos.

Frost Snare Wardens are not overpowered. They are strong in the current meta though. The trick ive heard from a lot of people is to build around what you hate so you can counter it.

Jabassa

I whole heartedly agree with more answers instead of nerfs as well. I'll be honest, I was very surprised to see them giving wardens some love with the current meta. As for me, I'm the healer, I'm used to taking a beating, lol. It just blows my mind watching my group get locked, wiped, and sloughtered faster than the CCB or BoL animations.

ESO_Nightingale

Jabassa wrote: »

I whole heartedly agree with more answers instead of nerfs as well. I'll be honest, I was very surprised to see them giving wardens some love with the current meta. As for me, I'm the healer, I'm used to taking a beating, lol. It just blows my mind watching my group get locked, wiped, and sloughtered faster than the CCB or BoL animations.

Frost Snare warden acts as the enabler and support of a group and allows this to happen. But they dont deal very much as a participant.

Jabassa

And then this pops up in my suggested videos... and you said they're not that strong 😉

https://youtu.be/Fc_rW25nedM