Dw Halved enchants

JinMori

Do you agree or not?

I personally found that this was one of the core advantages of dual wielding, and would have rather seeing two handed being improved.

jrgray93

Other

Won't know until I see actual hard numbers on how it performs.

Latios

No

As you said, I'd rather have them buff 2-handers. With this, magicka and range in PvE will be even more favoured.

Stratloc

I find it somewhat hard to figure out what I'm answering yes or no to.

MartiniDaniels

Other

Though change looks logical, but they must give something in return. As for now it is just direct nerf of DW and nothing more.

Casul

Yes

I’m fine with it, they would have just buffed the 2H values if not. Better to lower the power creep imo.

JinMori

No

BuildMan wrote: »

I’m fine with it, they would have just buffed the 2H values if not. Better to lower the power creep imo.

Yes, but there are other ways of reducing power creep, much better ways, that require actual effort, this is why i am so against nerfing of any kind in almost all cases.

Turelus

Yes

It makes sense in my mind as it does follow more akin to how everything else works for 1H vs 2H.

ZonasArch

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Though change looks logical, but they must give something in return. As for now it is just direct nerf of DW and nothing more.

Could have been the intent, after they changed how enchants apply on DW. They were relatively op and now they were brought down to, seemingly, regular levels. Poor SnB though will miss even more of their lacking damage. Delves will become a challenge. 😂

Ethyarion

No

I can appreciate the reason behind it but they really need to reduce the number of tempers required now to gold out DW weapons as they erode any other reasons to use them. Should not be costing 16 tempers for DW vs 8 for 2 handers / staves.

ZonasArch

Ethyarion wrote: »

I can appreciate the reason behind it but they really need to reduce the number of tempers required now to gold out DW weapons as they erode any other reasons to use them. Should not be costing 16 tempers for DW vs 8 for 2 handers / staves.

So much truth.

Royaji

No

Turelus wrote: »

It makes sense in my mind as it does follow more akin to how everything else works for 1H vs 2H.

Yep, at this point we just need to reduce the price of upgrading one-handers to 4 tempers and make all one handers drop in pairs or with a shield.

Oh? Two hander-lowers only wanted to be made more relevant and are not ok with giving back to make stuff actually equal and fair? Too bad.

MartiniDaniels

Other

ZonasArch wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Though change looks logical, but they must give something in return. As for now it is just direct nerf of DW and nothing more.

Could have been the intent, after they changed how enchants apply on DW. They were relatively op and now they were brought down to, seemingly, regular levels. Poor SnB though will miss even more of their lacking damage. Delves will become a challenge. 😂

I'm amazed how in eso something may become OP and then nerfed to the ground, within just 3 months

Sriivah

No

A direct nerf to DW and 1h/shield builds with nothing in exchange... and if someone wants to have, say, a full strength poison glyph and absorb stam glyph on their dw/whatever build, well then they're just SOL cause glyphs of the same type don't stack. Meanwhile, 2h passives are still kind of bad.

Facefister

Yes

It combats the power creep while making 2h a viable choice for PvE.

Emma_Overload

Yes

LOL as if this issue could be solved by buffing 2H...

Of course the loud DW lobby will jump in here claiming that this nerf will "ruin their unique identity"....

The only thing wrong with this nerf is that it didn't come 3 months ago! (That goes for Werewolves, too!)

Royaji

No

Sriivah wrote: »

and if someone wants to have, say, a full strength poison glyph and absorb stam glyph on their dw/whatever build, well then they're just SOL cause glyphs of the same type don't stack. Meanwhile, 2h passives are still kind of bad.

That is a very good point. Dual wiled enchants should stack and act as one full-power enchant if two of the same are used. Also let us put weapon enchants on shields. Armor enchants are nowhere close in strength to warrarnt such a nerf to one handed and shield.

SteveCampsOut

Facefister wrote: »

It combats the power creep while making 2h a viable choice for PvE.

I'd rather they reduce the swing time on 2h than cut the dw damage in half!

xaraan

Other

I think they should just make the off hand enchant to fire-able so that tanking doesn't get yet another nerf.

ZonasArch

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Facefister wrote: »

It combats the power creep while making 2h a viable choice for PvE.

I'd rather they reduce the swing time on 2h than cut the dw damage in half!

That would only give us 2 op weapons instead of solving the problems

Girl_Number8

Other

I just see Zos's usual lazy approach to every game issue. Amazing how they don't take game performance as the most crucial issue with the game. The performance has been the worst ever and yet they continue to help deteriorate it.

Please just fix the performance first, stop the events, and take one new content break so you can make the game run more smoothly, Zos

Rake

No

This is huge impact on PvE DW builds

Solariken

Other

Would have made more sense to half the Infused trait.

MaxJrFTW

Yes

Positive change overall. This will close the gap in PvE between stamina and magicka dps. Will close the gap between dual wield and 2h, making 2h a more viable choice for high end PvE. It's also a much needed fix for PvP where dual wield Torug's builds were doing too much dmg.

I was surprised by the amount of fixes, and balance changes coming with the patch. Even the sheer amount of content is quite surprising.

Mattock_Romulus

No

Quit nerfing PVE because of PVP please.

Vapirko

No

No this is the dumbest *** and I can’t believe they gave in to the whiners asking for this. The main reason is that enchantments do not stack, so now there is no option to try and get the full effect of one enchant if you do choose. The second reason is that enchants are not the reason 2H suck rn. For PvE it’s more about how the skills work and for PvP it’s broken targeting/function of dizzy swing and a useless other morph of wrecking blow.

Thorstienn

Other

I think it was a needed a change. But I would of preferred they just kept it simple and made "off-hand" weapons enchants are disabled.

ccmedaddy

Mattock_Romulus wrote: »

Quit nerfing PVE because of PVP please.

What makes you think this is a PvP change? If anything the enchantment nerfs are because of PvErs complaining about the imbalance between DW and 2H in terms of DPS.

Tetrafy

No

Rip dw pve

TequilaFire

No

Why should 2H get a full enchant proc at a time and DW only get a half enchant proc at a time?
Make the enchants stack then.

NyassaV

Yes

DW is already too strong and still has the best heavy attacks in the game