I'll be honest, I think TES VI will be a let down after 6+ years of ESO

KINGNGNL

Alex_Lex wrote: »

I read now the forum postings at the very start of ESO.
ESO had great progress theese years and still goes on.

I am 100% sure ESO would be multiple times better than any ES6 game
Except for overhaul mods - that's the only way ESO would definetly lose.

We have lots of chain quests, stories, references, common detailed and voiced NPCs
Even concequences (they can be more often)

So no, ES6 has no way to be more popular and better than ESO

Agree, I played every single TES and TES related games or at least most of them and I didn't really enjoy Skyrim or Oblivion more than ESO.
ESO may not be a perfect game but Story is very good for me and its even better in the dlcs and expansions, graphics IMO are good and I really love the architecture in different regions.

The game is constantly expanding and with every new dlc I feel that this game became somewhat new TES and I think that its trying to became mmoRPG rather than MMOrpg of course its my opinion and I know people who completely disagree with me but still my experience is that ESO is RPG and I dont really NEED TES VI cause I have ESO which will be even bigger in few years so yeah WHEN TES VI will come out I will check it but I know that for me it will never be "this" TES that I fell in love with when I was a child.

KINGNGNL

KINGNGNL wrote: »

Alex_Lex wrote: »

I read now the forum postings at the very start of ESO.
ESO had great progress theese years and still goes on.

I am 100% sure ESO would be multiple times better than any ES6 game
Except for overhaul mods - that's the only way ESO would definetly lose.

We have lots of chain quests, stories, references, common detailed and voiced NPCs
Even concequences (they can be more often)

So no, ES6 has no way to be more popular and better than ESO

Agree, I played every single TES and TES related games or at least most of them and I didn't really enjoy Skyrim or Oblivion more than ESO.
ESO may not be a perfect game but Story is very good for me and its even better in the dlcs and expansions, graphics IMO are good and I really love the architecture in different regions.

The game is constantly expanding and with every new dlc I feel that this game became somewhat new TES and I think that its trying to became mmoRPG rather than MMOrpg of course its my opinion and I know people who completely disagree with me but still my experience is that ESO is RPG and I dont really NEED TES VI cause I have ESO which will be even bigger in few years so yeah WHEN TES VI will come out I will check it but I know that for me it will never be "this" TES that I fell in love with when I was a child.

Forgot to mention that ESO is not flawless game for me and its not the same as older TES games but for me its better than these new TES games but you know Im just a Lore buff so I dont care that much about MMO aspects but still they dont bother me and even showed me that co op might be fun

Kiralyn2000

Eh, totally different games to me. I can't see how anything about ESO will effect my opinion of TES 6.


edit: heck, I've been poking around thinking of a new mod setup to try a character in Skyrim SE. But I've got other games in my backlog I want to get through first.

Ohtimbar

I can understand that perspective but for me it's the opposite. I'm a tes fan first and an eso fan second. I look forward to a more concise and detailed experience, which es6 will hopefully provide.

generalmyrick

I always thougth MMOS were super nerdy things...

but after playing this game for too many years! ha! that MMOs really feel like the future. but fallout 76 was, and is, crappy.

i really like the idea of having an immersive storyline that you can play solo or with a group and it doesn't HAVE to be in a group.

if this thing had a more realistic economy or less restrictions on the individual in the economy = OMG! <

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ZaroktheImmortal

Ohtimbar wrote: »

I can understand that perspective but for me it's the opposite. I'm a tes fan first and an eso fan second. I look forward to a more concise and detailed experience, which es6 will hopefully provide.

I'm pretty much the same. As much I enjoy ESO I mainly got into it because I had played the Elder Scrolls series previously it's one of the few MMOs I actually enjoyed but I usually play single player games that I can just enjoy by myself and can fully complete by myself.

BabylonRocker

Bladerunner1 wrote: »

As long as it gets a massive graphics / NPC AI / sound upgrade compared to FO76 or ESO, it should be worth it to me. ESO will still be around for the fun group play, but ES6 should be the eye candy that everyone wants.

They are gonna use the same engine, so dont count on it -.-

Banana

I will buy. I want my 0 ping and connection issues.

russelmmendoza

I just hope they dont make a tamriel version of fallout76.
No npc's, all the players are the npc's.
You get quest thru books and scrolls.

JumpmanLane

I’m thinking I’m going to like ES:6 more for what it is. The quests probably would be better than the ones in ESO. I’m just not invested in ESO’s quests. I don’t care about the NPC’s here and don’t want to help them.

What I’d probably miss is the combat if the system isn’t like or better than ESO’s. I’d really welcome the ability to truly mod the game and of course will wait a bit once ES:6 comes out for modders to fix all the problems the game will inevitably launch with lol.

Hymzir

So.. What you're saying is, that you used to eat a lot of pizza. That there was this pizzeria that made really good pizza you liked. Then you noticed that the the pizzeria chain also had a sister coffee house chain, so you paid them a visit. You ate some chocolate cake there, and deduced that because the chocolate cake was good, the next pizza from your usual pizzeria is gonna be bad?

Right... Maybe you just found out that you like chocolate cake more than pizza? As for me, I prefer pizza.

Apples and oranges, as others have pointed out. They may share the same creative material, but ultimately they are totally different games. And it's up to the individual to decide which form they prefer. And oddly enough, it's possible to like both.

As for TES6 and what to make of that... Well, I see no reason to start talking about doom and gloom. Failout 76 was an obvious rushed cash grab live service attempt, using ideas that were outdated couple of years ago, utilizing as much recycled assets as possible. It does not, as such, say anything meaningful about TES6. The real clincher here is Starfield. How it will turn out, will form a basis for what is going to be reasonable to expect from TES6.

In fact, a case might be made, that FO76 has increased the chances of Starfield and TES6 to be good games. There are other contenders challenging Bethesda. While KCD had it's flaws, it was a solid first attempt from Warhorse Studios. And CDPR has proven with Whitcher 3, what can be done with the genre in a properly polished game. And their upcoming Cyberpunk game is 'prolly gonna set the bar for any future single player open world RPGs. The way Bethesda used to do.

Bethesda wasted all the good will their fans had with FO76. The next "real" game they make, will face a much less forgiving crowd than Fallout 4 and Skyrim did. Bethesda has to up their game, stop going for "good enough", and deliver a truly solid game with their next title. And the people there are aware of these things. They are not idiots. Whether or not, the bloated behemoth the company has become, can get get itself up to shape again, is the real question.

If they wont, then modding is the only thing going for them, and to be honest - it is enough. As long as their games are fully and freely moddable, then they will always have a customer base. A fairly large customer base. The various content creators will keep their games relevant for years to come. And will do so for free. Think about it - Oblivion is still on sale today, and the asking price is 20 bucks. For a 13 year old game... 20 bucks.

They can cling to that crappy engine as long as the modding community is around to make them look decent. Heck, my modded Oblivion looks better than Skyrim SE and Fallout4 out of the box. In fact, my Oblivion looks better than most modded builds of those games. That is what 13 years of labor of love from the modding community has achieved. Jsut think of the things that are possible to do with a fully modded Skyrim SE... When TES6 finally will roll out, chances are that modded builds of Skyrims SE will still look better. So yeah, modding gives them a lot of leeway.

Of course, they do seem to try and ef that one up too... What with all this nonsense with the Creation Club, and trying to get people depend on the Bethlauncher thing, and mucking things with their attempts to make a buck from modders efforts, in addition to all the free marketing they get. Bethesda really should just shut up and count their blessing, being able to still sell 13 year old games today for 20 bucks.

However, as things stand right now, they would have to intentionally aim to make a crappy game for TES6 to fail. Of course it is still many years in the future, and if in the mean time, some other company stepped up to the plate and offered a better alternative to modders... Well if that happened, then Bethesda would be in serious trouble indeed.

But for the time being, I will wait for Starfield, before I'm gonna start making meaningful predictions about TES6.

Ri_Khan

I highly doubt I'll play anymore of these games. They're just cashing in on the franchise at this point anyway.

Jameliel

TESIII Morrowind is the GOAT. After that, all the gear/dungeons leveling up with you started making TES weak and generic. Hopefully they will take new TES games back to their roots.

ESO isnt even really like a TES game besides sharing the same name. Lots of noobs in here proclaiming ESO is this and that. Obvious they either never played all TES games, or they are practically babies when it comes to gaming experience. Not saying that to insult, that's just how it appears to me.

MartiniDaniels

I disagree. Anytime I launch Skyrim, i think whoa, why ESO can't have similar level of immersion and atmosphere.

Lylith

russelmmendoza wrote: »

I just hope they dont make a tamriel version of fallout76.
No npc's, all the players are the npc's.
You get quest thru books and scrolls.

SirAxen

BabylonRocker wrote: »

Bladerunner1 wrote: »

As long as it gets a massive graphics / NPC AI / sound upgrade compared to FO76 or ESO, it should be worth it to me. ESO will still be around for the fun group play, but ES6 should be the eye candy that everyone wants.

They are gonna use the same engine, so dont count on it -.-

They can update their animations and stuff to be a modern looking game while using the Creation engine. Go learn what an engine is.

russelmmendoza

I'll wait for the awesome mods before I play tes6.

By then the awesome modders would have fix most if not all the bugs it ship out with.

We all know how awesome bethgames when they first release them.

Their just awesome you know, the modders not bethgames, lol.

Nemesis7884

TES VI will only be a letdown if ZOS pulls another Fallout 76

FlyingSwan

TES VI will only be a letdown if it's another cash grab, or they use the same tired old graphics.

ESO has done well but is already showing its age, it's a no-brainer a game 10 years younger has the opportunity to set a new benchmark.

SoLooney

After waiting what? 14 years for kh3, and being such a huge disappointment

I could see tes 6 being the same way, esp if its ran how eso is

alanmatillab16_ESO

y'all should look up Skyrim Together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwT4826XB44