ZOS Update on Physical Collectors Edition

Davor

UrQuan wrote: »

iiYuki wrote: »

What absolute bollocks...

We decided to move away from requiring our most loyal, invested players to purchase a full version of the game every year in order to get the physical Collector's Edition goodies, so we decided not to release a physical CE for Elsweyr.

...but you're still selling a DIGITAL collectors edition and the other "physical goodies" will come at a premium ON TOP OF what we already paid for a digital version?

The difference is that those of us who bought the Morrowind and Summerset physical CEs had to buy the base game again as part of the price of those CEs. If the cost of the digital CE upgrade plus the cost of the physical goodies ends up being the same or more than the cost of the Morrowind and/or Summerset physical CEs then that'll be a problem. If that total comes out to be lower because of not having to buy the base game again, then what ZOS is saying makes sense.

I don't get this. I bought the physical collector's edition for Morrowind and Summerset and didn't have to buy another copy of the game? Sorry I don't understand why you would have to buy another copy of ESO.

Recremen

Davor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

iiYuki wrote: »

What absolute bollocks...

We decided to move away from requiring our most loyal, invested players to purchase a full version of the game every year in order to get the physical Collector's Edition goodies, so we decided not to release a physical CE for Elsweyr.

...but you're still selling a DIGITAL collectors edition and the other "physical goodies" will come at a premium ON TOP OF what we already paid for a digital version?

The difference is that those of us who bought the Morrowind and Summerset physical CEs had to buy the base game again as part of the price of those CEs. If the cost of the digital CE upgrade plus the cost of the physical goodies ends up being the same or more than the cost of the Morrowind and/or Summerset physical CEs then that'll be a problem. If that total comes out to be lower because of not having to buy the base game again, then what ZOS is saying makes sense.

I don't get this. I bought the physical collector's edition for Morrowind and Summerset and didn't have to buy another copy of the game? Sorry I don't understand why you would have to buy another copy of ESO.

It comes with another copy of the game as part of the price. You have an extra copy of the game sitting around if you bought the collector's editions.

Nebthet78

Davor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

iiYuki wrote: »

What absolute bollocks...

We decided to move away from requiring our most loyal, invested players to purchase a full version of the game every year in order to get the physical Collector's Edition goodies, so we decided not to release a physical CE for Elsweyr.

...but you're still selling a DIGITAL collectors edition and the other "physical goodies" will come at a premium ON TOP OF what we already paid for a digital version?

The difference is that those of us who bought the Morrowind and Summerset physical CEs had to buy the base game again as part of the price of those CEs. If the cost of the digital CE upgrade plus the cost of the physical goodies ends up being the same or more than the cost of the Morrowind and/or Summerset physical CEs then that'll be a problem. If that total comes out to be lower because of not having to buy the base game again, then what ZOS is saying makes sense.

I don't get this. I bought the physical collector's edition for Morrowind and Summerset and didn't have to buy another copy of the game? Sorry I don't understand why you would have to buy another copy of ESO.

The pricing for the Physical CE's and the contents contained a full base game DVD. This is why they were priced at $99.99usd while the Digital Upgrade CE were priced at like $69.99usd.

While you didn't have to redownload the whole base game again, just had to put in the code to get the Upgrade, you were still paying for the base game again anyways. This is why they are saying they are changing things. And this is why there are a number of us watching very carefully to ensure they don't try to screw us on the Physical item prices and shipping now that they are no longer doing the Physical CE's.

Davor

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

iiYuki wrote: »

What absolute bollocks...

We decided to move away from requiring our most loyal, invested players to purchase a full version of the game every year in order to get the physical Collector's Edition goodies, so we decided not to release a physical CE for Elsweyr.

...but you're still selling a DIGITAL collectors edition and the other "physical goodies" will come at a premium ON TOP OF what we already paid for a digital version?

The difference is that those of us who bought the Morrowind and Summerset physical CEs had to buy the base game again as part of the price of those CEs. If the cost of the digital CE upgrade plus the cost of the physical goodies ends up being the same or more than the cost of the Morrowind and/or Summerset physical CEs then that'll be a problem. If that total comes out to be lower because of not having to buy the base game again, then what ZOS is saying makes sense.

I don't get this. I bought the physical collector's edition for Morrowind and Summerset and didn't have to buy another copy of the game? Sorry I don't understand why you would have to buy another copy of ESO.

The pricing for the Physical CE's and the contents contained a full base game DVD. This is why they were priced at $99.99usd while the Digital Upgrade CE were priced at like $69.99usd.

While you didn't have to redownload the whole base game again, just had to put in the code to get the Upgrade, you were still paying for the base game again anyways. This is why they are saying they are changing things. And this is why there are a number of us watching very carefully to ensure they don't try to screw us on the Physical item prices and shipping now that they are no longer doing the Physical CE's.

I did not know that. Does this mean my daughters account who used my Morrowind collector's edition on Xbox has her own account and not using my "account" to play ESO then but just using my Xbox Live?

MissBizz

Davor wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

iiYuki wrote: »

What absolute bollocks...

We decided to move away from requiring our most loyal, invested players to purchase a full version of the game every year in order to get the physical Collector's Edition goodies, so we decided not to release a physical CE for Elsweyr.

...but you're still selling a DIGITAL collectors edition and the other "physical goodies" will come at a premium ON TOP OF what we already paid for a digital version?

The difference is that those of us who bought the Morrowind and Summerset physical CEs had to buy the base game again as part of the price of those CEs. If the cost of the digital CE upgrade plus the cost of the physical goodies ends up being the same or more than the cost of the Morrowind and/or Summerset physical CEs then that'll be a problem. If that total comes out to be lower because of not having to buy the base game again, then what ZOS is saying makes sense.

I don't get this. I bought the physical collector's edition for Morrowind and Summerset and didn't have to buy another copy of the game? Sorry I don't understand why you would have to buy another copy of ESO.

The pricing for the Physical CE's and the contents contained a full base game DVD. This is why they were priced at $99.99usd while the Digital Upgrade CE were priced at like $69.99usd.

While you didn't have to redownload the whole base game again, just had to put in the code to get the Upgrade, you were still paying for the base game again anyways. This is why they are saying they are changing things. And this is why there are a number of us watching very carefully to ensure they don't try to screw us on the Physical item prices and shipping now that they are no longer doing the Physical CE's.

I did not know that. Does this mean my daughters account who used my Morrowind collector's edition on Xbox has her own account and not using my "account" to play ESO then but just using my Xbox Live?

Yes. Your daughter her has own base game copy of ESO too now. You couldn't use the base game separate from the chapter upgrade - but yeah you lucked out hah.

Enemoriana

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

@ZOS_SarahHecker or anyone else on the community team :

Does this mean we should feel free to purchase the Elsweyr Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade, knowing that there's nothing else coming tied to the game purchase and that all remaining Elsweyr-related collectibles will be sold separately?

If you were waiting to buy Elsweyr because you were hoping we'd announce a physical CE, then yes. You can go ahead and upgrade whenever you want. Any items we do put out won't be tied to the game and can be purchased separately

It will have no digital bonuses (like mudcrab pet with plush), I understand right?

And Digital CE price was quite near physical CE. So to have what could be Elsweyr full CE, we would pay twice?

And what is even more important, can you say in what store it will be? If there will be more than one item, will it be in one time? It's very important. I had no problems with three previous CE on Amazon, but I can't order anything from US Bethesda store to Russia, and EU store is terrible. It has just nothing good, and delivery still cost a lot! So any items that doesnt't cost enough to justify delivery itself (and we remember about digital CE price, right?), can count as unavailable. 2-3 items in one order can be ok, but if in different time...
Can't it be done as simply CE-without-game (steel case, statue, artbook, map and digital bonuses, but no base Elsweyr code)? So you can preorder digital standart upgrade and play as soon as it release - and then get physical items and CE bonuses when it will arrive.

Davor

Another thing I don't like, selling them separately, is Zenimax getting into the toy business now? It's one thing to put them in a collector's edition, but not to do that and have them separate, what makes them so collectible now?

ANGEL_BtVS

What I've seen some gaming companies do that I think is simply awesome is to sell physical collector's edition without the game included. That way if you want to buy the game digitally you can still get the physical items. Of course, this assumes that the price reflects the fact that the game isn't included.

IzzyStardust

Seraphayel wrote: »

Why a statue. And who the hell wants another dragon.

I want that damn broken tablet, looks so good on its little pedestal.

You’ve spoken my mind perfectly!

Carbonised

@ZOS_SarahHecker

Something like this please:





If it's just another statue then I'm definitely gonna pass.

Tandor

Riverlynn wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/1086291189417078784

Nice positioning from the marketing dept, but I can't help thinking that a physical CE costs money to make and distribute - digital is free.

Which is doubtless why the physical CE cost a hell of a lot more than the digital version - the contents of which still cost money to design, code and test.

Tandor

Sanctuary_Reaper wrote: »

Bit uncomfortable with the wording in that tweet if im honest,

We decided to move away from requiring our most loyal, invested players to purchase a full version of the game every year in order to get the physical Collector's Edition goodies

So your most loyal if you buy only the most expensive copy of the game, what about the players who are still loyal by subbing every month aswell as buy digital upgrades, are they less loyal??

You should choose your words more carefully.

The term "our most loyal, invested players" is an inclusive term that covers all types of players. They aren't saying only those who bought the physical Collector's Edition are the most loyal, invested players, they're saying that the most loyal, invested players previously had to buy the physical Collector's Edition in order to buy all the Collector's Edition goodies, now they can get those goodies by buying the digital upgrade.

Ydrisselle

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

@ZOS_SarahHecker or anyone else on the community team :

Does this mean we should feel free to purchase the Elsweyr Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade, knowing that there's nothing else coming tied to the game purchase and that all remaining Elsweyr-related collectibles will be sold separately?

If you were waiting to buy Elsweyr because you were hoping we'd announce a physical CE, then yes. You can go ahead and upgrade whenever you want. Any items we do put out won't be tied to the game and can be purchased separately

@ZOS_SarahHecker Some feedback to pass along.

A bunch of separate items really sucks for a lot of international countries. The #OurElderScrolls tshirt for Canadians was $45 CAD - for a TSHIRT. The main reason? Shipping is more than the price of the tshirt. Normally Collectors Editions were offered via our own countries suppliers so we didn't need to pay these outrageous shipping costs, and now I imagine any items will be tied to the bethesda store - which has an outrageous shipping cost for us.

It really sucks when you are forced to pay more money for shipping an item than the item costs. Now I surely hope these items are not strung out over the course of a year, because that would probably add up to crazy costs. At least if the items all roll out at once - normally order more at a time allows shipping to at least cost less than the order.

Yeah, I agree. I simply skipped the shirt, because it wasn't worth it to order one to Hungary...

GLP323b14_ESO

High quality books, like the ones already released, is what I'd mainly be interested in.

ManwithBeard9

So what ZOS is saying, is that they want us to pay for the digital upgrade, then for one of the items they release, then pay again for ANOTHER item, then pay again for ANOTHER item. So how many times will be have to pay for something we could have gotten to begin with?

Another question is where it will be available, if its only available through ZOS or Bethesda, will there be free shipping? Or are we gonna have to pay out the rear end for shipping? Especially for people not in the US?

iiYuki

Gadamlub14_ESO wrote: »

iiYuki wrote: »

What absolute bollocks...

We decided to move away from requiring our most loyal, invested players to purchase a full version of the game every year in order to get the physical Collector's Edition goodies, so we decided not to release a physical CE for Elsweyr.

...but you're still selling a DIGITAL collectors edition and the other "physical goodies" will come at a premium ON TOP OF what we already paid for a digital version?

the angry man does have a point. Physical Elsweyr goodies and digital upgrade combined should NOT cost more than a Physical collectors edition would. To do so would unfortunately kill any intended goodwill from this decision.

Anyone outside the US will also have to pay insane prices importing and shipping. I'm betting if there is a statue, artbook etc sold desperately I'll end up spending double approaching triple the price I would have paid for a physical edition on Amazon, GAME or another retailer. If this was a good will idea they defiantly didn't think it through too much unless after the Bethesda fiasco they're just scared of selling physical editions but the last 3 have been fine and its Bethesda getting flak not ZO$, the reduction of the size of the art book was a bit *** but otherwise they were good statues for the price.

mateosalvaje

I'd love another Daedric statue and book! Maybe just statue? Hopefully they'll be available separately and also bundled for a little discount. I'm so glad I won't have to buy another copy of the base game to get whatever they decide to release 👏

itreboiz

So, let's pray for a great statue ^^

Sylvermynx

The only thing I want from a CE these days is the digital goodies. I'll save my RL money for CS stuff I REALLY want.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Davor wrote: »

Another thing I don't like, selling them separately, is Zenimax getting into the toy business now? It's one thing to put them in a collector's edition, but not to do that and have them separate, what makes them so collectible now?

To answer this, The Bethesda Store has had some really good swag since way before ESO. I have lots items I have bought over the years, But.....
I agree. I am concerned especially after the Summerset CE fiasco, ( late codes, cheaply made book, map SO cheap compared to the previous ones, statue a rubber silicon substance, etc), and lets not even go into the "Fallout 76" fallout.
I was hoping for a tablet and a "NICE" map, maybe a "Nice" book.
But let's wait and see. 2019 is the deciding year for me with Zo$ and Bethesda and how they do things. If Marketing and Crown Store stuff remains the focus, then well..... Will wait and see...
Huzzah!

Bhaal5

Wonder if they are going to advertise a canvas bag this time??

Maybe advertise a statue an then swap it out for a photo, because statue were a prototype and was to expansive?

Or adverstive a game an then swap it out for 3 jpegs, because developing a game is to expensive and load screen photos are easier to hand out?

JesQu

Enemoriana wrote: »

Good to hear, but, please, make it not too expensive (not more then CE) and available worldwide, not just few countries!

Seraphayel wrote: »

Why a statue. And who the hell wants another dragon.

I want that damn broken tablet, looks so good on its little pedestal.

I want dragon! I wasn't able to get Skyrim CE, so I have no dragons.
Though I also like tablet.

Same!

nemisan

Please give me my book, statue, and map ...thank you

Goyah

Yeah so tell me if im wrong :

I got all the previous CE for 100 euros each : game + figure + book

Now its upgrade + ???? = same price that the CE, or will this be higher?

Seraphayel

Goyah wrote: »

Yeah so tell me if im wrong :

I got all the previous CE for 100 euros each : game + figure + book

Now its upgrade + ???? = same price that the CE, or will this be higher?

If they offer another book + statue in the store be sure it will be a lot higher than the 100 Euros paid before. You have to pay delivery fees twice which tend to be quite high from the US to Europe. On top of that the specific pieces might cost more on their own than together, this is quite normal, too.

Wildberryjack

I like this method because I don't want to HAVE to buy the ENTIRE game AGAIN just to get the goodies. In fact, it would be awesome if each item were sold separately so we can buy only what we want instead of having to buy everything. Personally I HATE "bundle only" sales.

Rain_Greyraven

Recremen wrote: »

ZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

@ZOS_SarahHecker or anyone else on the community team :

Does this mean we should feel free to purchase the Elsweyr Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade, knowing that there's nothing else coming tied to the game purchase and that all remaining Elsweyr-related collectibles will be sold separately?

If you were waiting to buy Elsweyr because you were hoping we'd announce a physical CE, then yes. You can go ahead and upgrade whenever you want. Any items we do put out won't be tied to the game and can be purchased separately

This was amazing both in response time and response content. Thanks!!

Only because it involved giving them Money...ask about one of the ongoing issues and you'll get silence.

Iluvrien

Carbonised wrote: »

Books, maps or lithographs. Dont care about statues or other expensive stuff like that. Books with lore and especially all the cool concept art is at the very top of my wish list.

And make it available on amazon and other international sellers, as was stated elsewhere, shipping costs to EU via the Beth store doubles the costs of the items which is extremely derrimental to peoples desire to purchase.

Please this, @ZOS_SarahHecker .

I was unable to pick up the Morrowind CE due to the fact that to ship it to Japan would have doubled (or more) its price.

The fact that I was unable to get Naryu's Journal because of this continues to bug me.

I own all 5 lorebooks that have been published so far* (3 Skyrim, 2 ESO) and would love the chance to add some of the other maps, lithographs and lore books to that collection. I would do so immediately if I could get them separately, and from an outlet with reasonable shipping costs (like just adding them in to the Amazon site alongside the 2 ESO Tales of Tamriel books).

Pretty please with moon sugar on top?

Bubbastic

Moog wrote: »

Can I get an 3 meter dragon for my backyard? I will stick a bear trap beside it (re-arming trap)

Sure ^^ We'll offer a free barrel of water in case the dragon sneezes on your house

Starfishmw55

Sadly this is just another cash grab. Now you will have to spend $60 on the Digital CE (which cost them nothing to distribute) then ~$50 for whatever statue comes later, then ~$40 for the art book, then ~$15 for the map, and we will never have the nice box to hold it all, or to show behind the statues.... I have every CE so far and even if they did a limited run I would buy it. I want the massive box as well as all the physical loot.