Stamsorc needs an overhaul.

Crixus8000

Morgul667 wrote: »

I am fine with changing implosion but honestly it destroys the synergy with dots and bleed builds. This was the thing to keep stamsorc "okayish". By removing this I feel we need a buff or a class overhaul.

The fact that patch notes do not mention anything stamsorc related seriously worries me. I have no issue with this change for my magsorc but I see it as a big nerf for my stamsorc.

We need better passive and more daedric usefull skills. Today many stamsorc do not slot daedric abilities so a whole tree passive is useless.

Im not a big fan of overload or air atronach. Im more in favor or good passive synergies.

I agree but honestly it shouldnt be too much to ask for both. People make it seem like it's being greedy or something but asking to have 1 ultimate that you can actually use in your CLASS skills and be able to use your class passives and skills shouldn't be too much to ask for.

Rake

YES

Aedrion

Sad to see that what still works for stamsorc today, is getting nerfed tomorrow.

Implosion is gone, meaning no more pressure on low targets and no more high bursts of damage.

Bleeds are nerfed so the dots we use for pressure will do less damage.

I think I'll either go full proc-sets now like Fengrush or I'll grab 2h swords and stuff to boost % damage done and try to land big dizzying swings.

Either way, if stamsorc doesn't get treatment soon, we'll be on life-support.

Morgul667

Aedrion wrote: »

Sad to see that what still works for stamsorc today, is getting nerfed tomorrow.

Implosion is gone, meaning no more pressure on low targets and no more high bursts of damage.

Bleeds are nerfed so the dots we use for pressure will do less damage.

I think I'll either go full proc-sets now like Fengrush or I'll grab 2h swords and stuff to boost % damage done and try to land big dizzying swings.

Either way, if stamsorc doesn't get treatment soon, we'll be on life-support.

Life support incoming

DeadlyRecluse

I still see a fair amount of stamsorcs. Probably more than magsorcs this patch, tbh.

Stamden is just series of problems rolled into one spec. I don't really see stamsorc as underpowered compared to stamplar or stamdk--stamden and stamNB just play on a different level in certain contexts.

I think the oft-requested change to streak to allow the user to maintain "momentum" and move more fluidly after the streak would go a long way towards making stamsorc feel better to play without really being a buff. And yeah, the Daedric tree really needs some adjustment to justify using anything besides frontbarred atronach for the passives.

Crixus8000

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

I still see a fair amount of stamsorcs. Probably more than magsorcs this patch, tbh.

Stamden is just series of problems rolled into one spec. I don't really see stamsorc as underpowered compared to stamplar or stamdk--stamden and stamNB just play on a different level in certain contexts.

I think the oft-requested change to streak to allow the user to maintain "momentum" and move more fluidly after the streak would go a long way towards making stamsorc feel better to play without really being a buff. And yeah, the Daedric tree really needs some adjustment to justify using anything besides frontbarred atronach for the passives.

In the campaign I play in I hardly see any stamsorcs. I don't even find it a fun class to play now that it lost everything it had that made it unique and it's only getting more nerfs next patch.

And yes fixing bolt escape would help a lot but the class needs more fixing, like beign able to use class passives and having a class ult, that is something all other classes have, stamsorc does not. It's like they started designing it and quit half way through.

Vapirko

Tasear wrote: »

If we only had spell crafting or something that gave us individual diversity...

No. Stam sorc needs real work, not some cheesy skill line.

Speed_Kills

Stamsorc is still a very strong class, and to your statement “When's the last time you saw a notorious stamsorc and thought 'Oh, better not take this fight alone'?”, it wouldn’t be too long ago for most people in open world. That being said, the reliance on non-class abilities is pretty limiting on Stam sorc, even though any weapon combo can work on them. Just one class damage ability to provide synergy with other lines would be very beneficial to the class.

Wildberryjack

What all classes need are more magicka to stamina morphs. I'm really tired of bow and duel wield being the majority of the skills on my bar, I'd prefer it to be CLASS abilities. As it is now I feel like all my stam characters are the same toon, there is precious little variety in their gameplay due to not having hardly any stam morphs.

Flame_of_Hades

Wildberryjack wrote: »

What all classes need are more magicka to stamina morphs. I'm really tired of bow and duel wield being the majority of the skills on my bar, I'd prefer it to be CLASS abilities. As it is now I feel like all my stam characters are the same toon, there is precious little variety in their gameplay due to not having hardly any stam morphs.

then run DW/S+B... run a new class... i have 5 class abilities on my stam sorc, 5 weapon abilities, vigor, and DBoS. when you made a stamina toon, you chose to play a spec with mostly weapon abilities. that was your choice. if you want something, change your spec and GET IT, don't complain that you "can't" get it.