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Is it really a good idea to introduce Cyrodiil mechanics that will INCREASE zergs?

iiYuki
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I've just got around to watching the reveal video and heard they plan on having a new mechanic that will have super weapons spawn "randomly", (give it a couple of weeks and there will be an add-on for camping their spawns) that in theory will create MASSIVE zergs throughout Cyrodiil.
I don't play Cyrodiil PvP much outside of events but the idea of chasing after weapons at 5fps casting abilities 3 seconds after I press the button doesn't particularly sound too exciting, instead of implementing more mechanics and content can we look at optimisation? Net-code? Lag and FPS problems in general while in populated areas? I shouldnt be struggling to maintain double digit FPS taking a keep or take 10 minutes to load an area on a 1080ti + i7-7700k + Installed on an SSD.
FFS I've had the game lag like crazy in battleground domination when all 12 characters are together to fight over a point but imagine 30v30v30 or 50vs50vs50 levels of fighting over a point, anyone who doesn't crash or lag out of the game will have a migraine from the 1fps gameplay.
Also as a side point they mention its to counter Emperor. Who is complaining about Emperor? I have NEVER seen anyone seriously complain in the 4 years I have played about "Emperor OP plz nerf"? Emperor SHOULD be OP, instead they plan on adding MULTIPLE emperor level characters at a time into a campaign.
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  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    Yeah, I don't like the idea either. It's gonna be a mess.

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  • technohic
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    Well; if it is really random on location, then no worries. As far as people going to one spot, this is really nothing new. Hopefully its away from the Emp keeps most the time; although they mention it as being a counter to Emp and used to smash that last keep so; it thats the case there is going to be a faction stack anyway.
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    I'm more worried about tryhard no-skill blobspam groups getting a hold of this and just farming less organized players since the game still favors their cancerous playstyle.

    I think that like the chaosball, the Daedric Weapons should have an aoe debuff to friendly players so the one player with it has to stay a little bit away from his team. This will prevent spamball "stack on crown" "hurr durr we are skilled" groups from using the new weapons.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Cyrodiil is for large-scale PvP. It was literally designed for zerging, just like real warfare. If you want small-scale PvP, you have BGs for that.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on January 16, 2019 4:37PM
  • Jakx
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    Its damned if they do, damned if they dont. Most anything they add to Cyrodiil is going to cause people to clump up on a spot. The way the game is designed, its always going to reward ball zergs and there's no changing it. I hate this fact but I guess they're going with the idea: ....we might as well add things to Cyrodiil because they'll ball zerg no matter what we do, so more content is more money.

    I doubt it took many resources to add this but I agree. It would be nice if optimization was on the forefront of development but it never will be. As long as new content nets you more money, it always will.
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  • StarOfElyon
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    I'm hoping they have the sense to create a specific campaign for that kind of stuff. It really feels like ZOS is jumping the shark.
    Edited by StarOfElyon on January 16, 2019 4:37PM
  • technohic
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    I'm more worried about tryhard no-skill blobspam groups getting a hold of this and just farming less organized players since the game still favors their cancerous playstyle.

    I think that like the chaosball, the Daedric Weapons should have an aoe debuff to friendly players so the one player with it has to stay a little bit away from his team. This will prevent spamball "stack on crown" "hurr durr we are skilled" groups from using the new weapons.

    Yeah, hopefully there is something like the part of it killing you slowly if you are not killing stuff with it requires you to do most the work and is not able to be healed through by a dedicated healer.
  • Nogawd
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    It will force us to make decisions. Go out of the way to get the pickup (which I bet will be a hike) or leave keeps undefended.

    Going to get it can help in some situations, hurt in others.
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    This seems like an excellent idea to me.


    All you will need to do in order to have a lag-free high performant Cyrodil experience is keep an eye on the map to see where exactly the super weapon spawns and avoid that spot like the plague ;)
  • Kagukan
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    Would be interesting if "friendly fire" was turned on while the player has the buff active. Would make a large zerg surfing their Juggernaut a little more difficult.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Cyrodiil is for large-scale PvP. It was literally designed for zerging, just like real warfare. If you want small-scale PvP, you have BGs for that.

    But the lag. That's the problem.
  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    Can we get a smooth playing and decently running Cyrodiil first? Adding garnish to a *** sandwich does nothing to improve the substance.

    Frack just one more thing to frack up Cyrodiil. And there is already a super weapon When the masses assemble they create the ultimate daedric weapon "Lorkan's Lag" How about we rebalance LL to not proc as often?
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    RE:I know a lot of people are against people massing in one area but I actually think this will do the opposite. Keep in mind you have to make the decision to take or defend objectives plus scrolls while an artifact drops. This means there will be multiple places to mass rather than just one or two.

    If anything this gives smaller groups the opportunity to farm larger groups with their own personal emp.
  • NarutoUzumaki242
    Imagine the lag.
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  • LonePirate
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    This Sheogorath weapon change will almost mandate everyone carry at least one Keep Recall Stone on them in case they are in the middle of nowhere and the weapon drops nearby.
  • NarutoUzumaki242
    LonePirate wrote: »
    This Sheogorath weapon change will almost mandate everyone carry at least one Keep Recall Stone on them in case they are in the middle of nowhere and the weapon drops nearby.

    I concur.
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    ADBreton Templar – Healer – Annabelle Jurard "She's my only Healer"
    DCAltmer Sorcerer– DPS – Valritte Kjældsen "She's my SorcDPS"
    ADAltmer Templar – DPS – Ayrenn Arana Uzumaki "She's my Jabs DW DPS"
    EPDark Elf Warden – DPS – Alyanna von Nerethi "She's my Pet DPS"
    EPDark Elf Nightblade – DPS – Naryu Virian Uzumaki "She's obviously my DW Assassin"
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  • VaranisArano
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    Cyrodiil is for large-scale PvP. It was literally designed for zerging, just like real warfare. If you want small-scale PvP, you have BGs for that.

    Yep! Now, if only the servers could handle the large scale warfare and zerging so we could all enjoy playing as designed...
  • Girl_Number8
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    It will be like event lag 24/7
  • NarutoUzumaki242
    The first moment that artifact drops, all of Cyrodiil players online will run towards that place, creating real chaos, which is good an all, after all, this is Sheogorath's idea. Though, one would think the amount of lag it will create for all players.

    Maybe that's why they will remove IC from Cyrodiil?
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    ADBreton Templar – Healer – Annabelle Jurard "She's my only Healer"
    DCAltmer Sorcerer– DPS – Valritte Kjældsen "She's my SorcDPS"
    ADAltmer Templar – DPS – Ayrenn Arana Uzumaki "She's my Jabs DW DPS"
    EPDark Elf Warden – DPS – Alyanna von Nerethi "She's my Pet DPS"
    EPDark Elf Nightblade – DPS – Naryu Virian Uzumaki "She's obviously my DW Assassin"
    DCImperial Templar– Tank – Ariana Præxemilia Leonius/b] "She's my Secondary Tank"
    EPImperial Dragonknight – DPS – Aurelius Marcus Uzumaki "The Supreme Pontiff"
    EPBreton Necromancer– DPS – Alyssane Montierre "For TES VI Role-playing"


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  • WitchyWarrior
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    Has it been said yet if this is going to be on PTS next week or when it will be?
    I am really curious how this actually is going to work. Someone said a good point in one of the other threads;
    They said the person with the artifact has to kill people to feed it or else it kills them. So an easy way to get that guy killed would be to stay far away from him so he has no one to kill.
    I'm trying to hold judgement until I know more & see it in action, but it seems like bad timing for something like this. Fix the performance issues before adding more bells & whistles. But what do I know
  • brandonv516
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    I'm more worried about tryhard no-skill blobspam groups getting a hold of this and just farming less organized players since the game still favors their cancerous playstyle.

    I think that like the chaosball, the Daedric Weapons should have an aoe debuff to friendly players so the one player with it has to stay a little bit away from his team. This will prevent spamball "stack on crown" "hurr durr we are skilled" groups from using the new weapons.

    This is a brilliant request. I fully agree that this is how it should work.
  • Haashhtaag
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    We’re being setup for eso battle royale mode
  • idk
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    It is a good idea to make changes that could bring life to IC. It is dead as it is. I can imagine the only people that are not interested in attempts to breath life into IC are those who farm telvar without worry of running into another player.
  • SpiderKnight
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    This is what came to mind immediately when I heard this, don't worry, it'll be fun...Except all of those knockdowns will be everyone crashing from server overload.
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  • ezio45
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    ya idk about this idea @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    I get its a new fun thing but some immediate concerns

    unkillable tanks getting ahold of this (maybe make the feed mechanic do % based oblivion damage) but even then a tank that needs 10+ ppl to kill with a damage buff.. idk about that

    the thing about breaking through keep walls is definitively gunna need a cooldown

    also worried that this will take alot of the focus off of actually sieging and taking keeps, instead the whole server is just gunna be piled up trying to get this thing.... which kinda ruins the war/ point of cyro
  • Akrasjel
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    Cyrodiil is a open world PvP zone big groups fights is the purpose of it.
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  • themaddaedra
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    PvPers: Cyrodiil gets nothing.

    Cyrodiil gets something

    Also PvPers: Cyrodiil doesn't need dis!

    As if zergballs has anything to do with any aspect of the game. As if not bringing artifacts or anything in general would stop them from existing.

    The OP literally says "instead of having new mechanics" lmao dude you just humiliated a new mechanic before it even happened. Pretty much sums up what pvp is about. If PvPers didn't have anything to complain about, they would complain about not having anything to complain about.
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  • Artim_X
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    Uncle Sheo loves lag. Lag for everyone!
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    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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    Jakx wrote: »
    Its damned if they do, damned if they dont. Most anything they add to Cyrodiil is going to cause people to clump up on a spot. The way the game is designed, its always going to reward ball zergs and there's no changing it. I hate this fact but I guess they're going with the idea: ....we might as well add things to Cyrodiil because they'll ball zerg no matter what we do, so more content is more money.

    I doubt it took many resources to add this but I agree. It would be nice if optimization was on the forefront of development but it never will be. As long as new content nets you more money, it always will.

    Adding stuff like this would be fine if the game didn't go to single digit FPS when there are more than a dozen people in the vicinity of you never mind the possible 30-100 people spamming abilities this will cause.
    "Play how you want... unless its not how we intended you to play in which case we'll nerf it".
    - ZO$

    - The ZO$ Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmUJWP_ebsQ
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    Akrasjel wrote: »
    Cyrodiil is a open world PvP zone big groups fights is the purpose of it.

    I know and I like that about Cyrodiil its the fact the game goes to 3fps if more than 20 people inhabit the screen at the same time, before adding more content that clump people together they should be looking at how to actually do that without crashing peoples game as they approach a 100 man zerg...
    "Play how you want... unless its not how we intended you to play in which case we'll nerf it".
    - ZO$

    - The ZO$ Theme Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmUJWP_ebsQ
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