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[PvP] Dragonknight class
Bashev
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According to me DKs are underperforming in every role in PvP.
Can anyone share a build that is really strong for DKs and if you use the same build on another class it will be weaker? As DKs are my love, I tried to find a build that is decent but everything that came to my mind works well better on other classes.
Why DKs underperform according to me:
One option could be an Acid Spray build but I am still not convinced.
Can anyone share a build that is really strong for DKs and if you use the same build on another class it will be weaker? As DKs are my love, I tried to find a build that is decent but everything that came to my mind works well better on other classes.
Why DKs underperform according to me:
- Expensive class skills
- PvE passives
- Overnerfed skills with the years
One option could be an Acid Spray build but I am still not convinced.
Because I can!
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Vanzen✭✭✭✭✭After 5 years, I ve stoped with DK in PVP.
I ve tried everything.
Am not a really good player but its hopeless compared to how easier other class like NB/Sorc/Warden/ whatever are ...
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gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well. Im moving from magsorc to magdk and its very amusing. Had some work to get used to melee.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
If you see edits on my replies: typos. English isn't my main language0 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭mDK, Shacklebreaker, Skoria, Burning Spellweave/Silk of the Sun. 5 Light - 1 - 1
Destro - Restro
it is awesomeXbox EU & NA - PVP Only1 -
ZeroC✭✭✭Skoria, wyrd, surge...
s&b + infernoJe größer der Dachschaden, desto schöner der Blick in den Himmel!
PC/EU Cireil - PVE/PVP Mag-DK
Gildenratsmitglied Cadwells Löwen0 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well. Im moving from magsorc to magdk and its very amusing. Had some work to get used to melee.
I did the other way around and I found Sorc really well designed class for burst with these executes.Fury 7th BS
So you want to tell me that this is setup is better on sDk than on stamina warden?Because I can!0 -
gepe87✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pariah+Skoria+BSW is working for me - mdkGepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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biggda76✭✭✭@Bashev yes, more constant access to major mending with same weapon damage is better. For stamden you'll be better of with VD. Honestly though what is your problem? StamDen has shalks which is aoe burst skill and DK doesn't. So? Doesn't mean class is bad, I feel better on sDK rather than on sDen solo but other way around in group. But yes I believe Fury 7th BS is better on DK even in group whilst on warden I'd go more of VD esque setup
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭For magdks axiom and burningm spellweave, but also silk of the sun are very strong sets, which also do not fit other magclasses that well. Also a set like bloofthorn's touch is very efficient.
Current stamdk meta sets are as said 7th, fury and BS. Saying, that this sets work better on stamdens is not true, just because stamdens are currently a stronger group and pug slayer class than stamdks. Also a stamdk actually sees more benefits using those sets than a stamden, since they have access to minor brutality further amplifying the gained weapon damage and also restore resources by suing an ultimate (which happens more frequently by using BS). So in that regard, 7th, BS and fury work better on stamdks, but stamdens are generally the stronger class for open world pvp (in a 1v1 situation those sets works too and there stamdks perform better than stamdens).3 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well. Im moving from magsorc to magdk and its very amusing. Had some work to get used to melee.
Thats where I am - somehow melee just isn’t my cup of tea. Playing Sorc since release just makes it hard to get used to other stuff.
Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
method__01✭✭✭✭✭i also deleted mine after 3 years,my high elf magblade does it all better (destro-resto)
tip: psijic skills help a lot in pvp.whatever you choose,spend some time to max it outEdited by method__01 on January 15, 2019 11:34AMPC EU/NA /// PS4 EU/NA0 -
SkysOutThizeOut✭✭✭✭@Bashev @amir412 This is the build video, but in its description you’ll see links to it in action. This is v3.
https://youtu.be/OiXyA0evWZg Edited by SkysOutThizeOut on January 15, 2019 12:57PM0 -
Vermethys✭✭✭✭I didn't like MagDK in PvP, but I regularly play a 7th Legion/Viper/Bloodspawn 2h + S&B StamDK in BGs and I find it effective and strong.PC EU CP1400+
In-game Username: Vermilion98
Characters & BuildsEdith Geonette [DC Imperial Sorcerer] (AR28)
Gorgo Aendovius [AD Imperial Dragonknight] (AR28)
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amir412✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd say magDK lack some serious stuff currently and tbf im not going to bother with that class.
On the other hand my stamDK in duels is really strong this patch, but i feel like it lacks some stuff for open world.PC | EU | AD |Stam Dk named "-Saidden"| 1700 CP|"..A world without fire. Ashen one, is this truly thy wish?.."1 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭Anybody ever try swamp raider with a sdk? Maybe axiom and swamp raider?
No...just no. Stamdks rely on weapon abilities too much to justify such sets. They do not buff healing not spammables.I'd say magDK lack some serious stuff currently and tbf im not going to bother with that class.
On the other hand my stamDK in duels is really strong this patch, but i feel like it lacks some stuff for open world.
Like what? More aoe damage to pressure multiple targets simultaniously (like warden shalks) rather than applying single targets skills to each enemy?0 -
MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I use rending, ST, and critical rush. Only weapons skills I use. The rest are dk skills, which are the poison morphs. That's why I wondered how it would work if it would at all.
Thanks for the feedback and I'll look for more.0 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Like what? More aoe damage to pressure multiple targets simultaniously (like warden shalks) rather than applying single targets skills to each enemy?
Magicka DK already have that skill - inhale. The difference is that shalk cost 2.4k magicka while inhale is 4050k magicka.Because I can!1 -
Daedric_NB_187✭✭✭✭✭mDK, Shacklebreaker, Skoria, Burning Spellweave/Silk of the Sun. 5 Light - 1 - 1
Destro - Restro
it is awesome
I second that motion. Except I use dual flame staves and bounce between Grothdaar and Zaan depending on how I feel. Also my Shacklebreaker is in heavy. I do 5 light when I wear both BSW and Silks together.Edited by Daedric_NB_187 on January 15, 2019 1:42PM0 -
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The question was about stamdks, not magdks. Sry for the confusion.
Mobility, and burst.
Burst will always win over dots in the current meta open world.
While DK's need to go face to face to apply multipile dots which consider time (Time which cost u to take damage). Warden can just kite around, load the sub and come back with DB execute combo.Edited by amir412 on January 15, 2019 2:29PMPC | EU | AD |Stam Dk named "-Saidden"| 1700 CP|"..A world without fire. Ashen one, is this truly thy wish?.."2 -
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✭Magdk is pretty strong right now in this meta, fotm. Stam dk could use a little help in certain areas (such as aoes) but it’s not that bad of a class. If anything it’s lacking in group play rather than small scale and solo.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Mag DK is fine, hybrid has been made a very viable option by @SkysOutThizeOut as see above, but if you want to go straight stamina there isn’t a whole lot of options. It’s pretty much go super tanky and wear them down or go home. Similar to Stam sorcs they jsut have no class burst and since dizzy swing is pretty much a none option these days it’s tough. But any changes would have to be done carefully becuse unlike Stam sorcs, Stam DKs still have a couple of very strong dots, Major fracture, major mending, minor brutality, and imo better passives, or at least more passives. So, they don’t need much, just a bit of burst.0 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Based on the most opinions in the topic it looks like that most of the people who play DK are quite satisfied with the class' toolkit.
It looks like that the problem is in my playstyle, I guess I could't adapt after all the changes. At least I am glad that I found Sorc and Wardens as another solution for me to enjoy the game.Because I can!0 -
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✭If you're trying to play a dk like a warden or a nightblade then of course they do it better. Play to the dks strengths and youll do fine.0 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »If you're trying to play a dk like a warden or a nightblade then of course they do it better. Play to the dks strengths and youll do fine.
So according to you what are DK's strengths?Because I can!0
