Delete Bow

Sy1ph5

Bow is the most terribly balanced skill line in the game. Almost all of the skills are completely useless when outnumbered and completely overperforming when outnumbering. ZoS needs to delete the the bow and start over. There needs to be a bow in the game, but the current one is underwhelming and only truly shines when zerging down 4 people with 40. Lets get a bow with actually useful non bugged skills that are good for more than trolling smallscalers and RP.

ChunkyCat

Okie Dokie.

MilwaukeeScott

Delete everything that ever killed me!!

Sy1ph5

I really like how you clearly took the time to read and come up with a quality response that addressed simultaneously the OP and the other commenters.

MilwaukeeScott wrote: »

Delete everything that ever killed me!!

Fur_like_snow

Sounds like the bow deleted you OP.

Sy1ph5

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Sounds like the bow deleted you OP.

Gosh I love how creative and thoughtful you all are. Every time I read response that questions my skill or experience instead of actually addressing the topic at hand it warms my heart.

Taunky

L2P.

Latios

Yup, we should definitely buff snipe... all of the skills underperform, right? sigh..

Nebthet78

Quit whining!

JobooAGS

Most people are missing op's point. He wants to rework the bow skill line so it can peform more well 1vx and less well xv1 like the other skill lines.

stimpy986b14_ESO

All weapons are better when it's Xv1 instead of 1vX unless X<1. That's how numbers work.

ZonasArch

It seems OP not only does not know how to defend himself/herself, they are also kinda sassy with the replies! Can i get your attention, OP? You're funny when you take the baits!

Also, EVERY SINGLE WEAPON will be exactly like you said, OP on 40v4, an underperforming when 4v40. That's called *logic* not unbalanced skills. Derped hard, OP, derped hard.

Also also, l2p. Of all the bow-nerf whiners, you're the worst when asking for, not only a nerf if snipe, but a full wipe of skills.

And lastly, and probably irrelevant to your lack of skills, arrow spray has a rooting morph that serves EXACTLY for when you're outnumbered. It's your own problem if you are a meta chaser or just go with people tell you (poison morph), but there is a GREAT skill in for defense bows that very few people seem to recommend, and before coming here to cry, you should have read about it. This skills combined with your medium armor and the last passive for bows should be enough to help you get away from outnumbered situations quite easily. L2p.

JobooAGS

stimpy986b14_ESO wrote: »

All weapons are better when it's Xv1 instead of 1vX unless X<1. That's how numbers work.

Some perform better xv1 than others

ZonasArch

stimpy986b14_ESO wrote: »

All weapons are better when it's Xv1 instead of 1vX unless X<1. That's how numbers work.

Thanks for saying it, even though this is so obvious, it shouldn't need to be stated.

LordGavus

Anything outperforms in 40v4.
Hell, 40 unarmed will probably win in that scenario.

Girl_Number8

I think if you adjust your title 'Delete Bow' into something more constructive it will appeal for more of a conversation OP.

Reading your post it does seem that you need to learn more of the game mechanics and have realistic options.

Ryath_Waylander

What is this constant complaining about the bow and associated snipe thing? I get killed once or twice in a 2hr Cyro run by snipers. I was pure pve when mayhem started, however I am busy adapting my build. Impen, more health etc. I can already feel the difference, however, what gets me killed more often is placement and situational awareness. Why is it such a big deal, with this event, they're wasting arrows anyway seeing as I rarely have an AP streak bigger than 3000k Really, placement and lag feels more deadly.

dem0n1k

Every weapon or skill in the game is not that powerful on it's own but quite powerful when used by a zerg. What exactly is ZOS going to do about the fact that players like to group up & overwhelm with numbers?

GeneralSezme

Seem's reasonable

Ryath_Waylander

dem0n1k wrote: »

Every weapon or skill in the game is not that powerful on it's own but quite powerful when used by a zerg. What exactly is ZOS going to do about the fact that players like to group up & overwhelm with numbers?

Oh I dunno... ask the Bombblade that hit us at the Arrius Lumbermill. It was glorious, there were bodies everywhere. Took at least a minute to res everyone. If he hadn't been solo, we'd have had to play horse sim.

NyassaV

I mean if we want all classes to preform at the level a magblade does then yes by all means delete bow for PvP reasons

Thorvarg

The weekly, almost daily delete, kill, nerf Skill Thread. Has anyone hurt you? Poor TE.

https://youtu.be/N-qra604RbU

ApostateHobo

No u

Sheezabeast

Hah I agree but for a different reason I’m mad at bows because I have ran BRP 4 times and got the bow every *** **** freaking time.

j.greenmanb16_ESO

Sy1ph5 wrote: »

........Almost all of the skills are completely useless when outnumbered and completely overperforming when outnumbering.

Sounds exactly like an actual bow. Weird.

Uviryth

Well, Bow really need an overhaul in PvE. Right now the only thing you do with it is lay down an Endless Hail, throw in a Poison Injection, and then switch back to your actual weapon.
This has been the Bow-Playstile since the game came out.

I would love to play Bow on the Mainbar for once.

SiAScORCH

Sy1ph5 wrote: »

I really like how you clearly took the time to read and come up with a quality response that addressed simultaneously the OP and the other commenters.

MilwaukeeScott wrote: »

Delete everything that ever killed me!!

We're just tired of hearing people cry to nerf this or delete that because they can't handle. It's just another sad post IMO.

Mayrael

Just roll dodge... You know you can roll even 1000 snipes at the same time?

Edit:
If anything needs to be done it's the bugged draining shot cc. Fix it so it works like flame reach etc. and it will be ok.

Thorvarg

Uviryth wrote: »

Well, Bow really need an overhaul in PvE. Right now the only thing you do with it is lay down an Endless Hail, throw in a Poison Injection, and then switch back to your actual weapon.
This has been the Bow-Playstile since the game came out.

I would love to play Bow on the Mainbar for once.

I play a Bosmer Stam Sorcerer, with both bow on the main and the backbar, and it's great. No need for any other weapon.

albesca

Sy1ph5 wrote: »

Lets get a bow with actually useful non bugged skills that are good for more than trolling smallscalers and RP.

I may get the smallscalers part (though I don't agree), but I have no idea what "trolling RP" even means in the context of PVP

Ravereth

Sy1ph5 wrote: »

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