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This Premade vs solo BG grouping has to stop!!!

  • Drdeath20
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    Dont play battlegrounds. Its meant for the gitguds.
  • Aliyavana
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Dont play battlegrounds. Its meant for the gitguds.

    ? As opposed for the majority that hide behind zergs in open world and run from a 1v1
    Edited by Aliyavana on January 7, 2019 4:15AM
  • Xerikten
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    make some friends. it is a mmo after all. if you cant or don't want to do this perhaps this and other mmos are not the games for you. it is silly to have the game cater changes because of ones social inadequacies.

  • Starlight_Knight
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    Xerikten wrote: »
    make some friends. it is a mmo after all. if you cant or don't want to do this perhaps this and other mmos are not the games for you. it is silly to have the game cater changes because of ones social inadequacies.

    So i'm socially inadequate because of the matchmaking system.. lol
  • Sy1ph5
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    Nah the matchmaking system has nothing to do with your inability to form a group.
  • Starlight_Knight
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    Sy1ph5 wrote: »
    Nah the matchmaking system has nothing to do with your inability to form a group.

    The game is designed to play solo. it was advertised as such as well. There is even an option to queue solo.. i'm not going to make a group and farm solo players as its boring. Most of the time there are much more enjoyable matches playing and queuing solo.

  • LeagueTroll
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Split the queues and dump the ridiculous MMR.

    Totally agree, if zos dev too potatoes to split the que, they can just remove que as a group function.
  • LeagueTroll
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    1) you can't have separate ques ever so that isn't an option. The que for a random and premade group would make things worse tbh.

    2) the solution to your problem is to join a guild that does pvp or make some friends that have interest in pvp. Play together and get better and then you won't be doing random pvp anymore. That is honestly the only thing you can do.

    3) your final option is to just suck it up and accept that you are handicapping yourself by quing alone unfortunately that will never change.

    1) then remove the que as a group option
    2) how about we have some standars and try not equit us with those that has to cheese
    3) complain on forum seem to work, it got sorc shield nerfed
  • shaielzafine
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    Yea, I don't think that enough people play BGs for the game to match you with non-pre made groups when you're solo q. I don't know how MMR works but I noticed on my most played pvp toons I would get the tryhard pre-made groups and run into streamers, and on other toons I would be fine for a while when I started off then eventually I would run into the same people anyway. That was playing solo. If in group, it's pretty much guaranteed that I will run into other pre-mades.
  • Smitch_59
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    I've NEVER done a BG. Been thinking about trying it just to unlock Vigor. I pity whoever I get teamed with, cuz I'm a scub and I'm gonna die, whether it's against a pre-made group or not.
    By Azura, by Azura, by Azura!
  • D0PAMINE
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    max_only wrote: »
    Only solo queue.

    Play with your friends by playing against them, I used to do it all the time when tf2 did a mid game shuffle to balance teams.

    It’s fun bombing your mates

    I love fighting my friends. I find it quite satisfying.
  • jediodyn_ESO
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    This has been the #1 hottest post on the BG forums (which has like zero dev posts ever) for months. There is even a poll. The overwhelming majority of players agree that this is an issue which can and should be fixed by separating the queues between solo players.

    Separate leaderboards and for group v group and for solo. Unique rewards for group v group to encourage these more difficult matches, which require actually making a team and fighting other teams. No more pug stomping.
  • Kidgangster101
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    1) you can't have separate ques ever so that isn't an option. The que for a random and premade group would make things worse tbh.

    2) the solution to your problem is to join a guild that does pvp or make some friends that have interest in pvp. Play together and get better and then you won't be doing random pvp anymore. That is honestly the only thing you can do.

    3) your final option is to just suck it up and accept that you are handicapping yourself by quing alone unfortunately that will never change.

    1) then remove the que as a group option
    2) how about we have some standars and try not equit us with those that has to cheese
    3) complain on forum seem to work, it got sorc shield nerfed

    1) won't work you basically want to punish players because they have friends.

    2) again it's your choice not to join a guild so I have no pitty at all if you don't wanna adapt.

    3) complain all you want but this problem will never change because it's an mmo you are suppose to play with people. If you want to play alone do malestrom arena or continue to get bodied lol
  • DMuehlhausen
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    Welcome to MMO battlegrounds man it happens
  • BuddyAces
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    ZoS literally doesn’t care.

    Sorry.

    They nerfed magsorcs so hard stamsorcs felt it,lol - Somber97866

    I'm blown away by the utter stupidity I see here on the daily. - Wrekkedd
  • Sy1ph5
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    There's also not very many premades on at any given time, and I would wager that most of them are just friends messing around on their ow builds.

    If your willing to optimize for the given situation in BGs as a solo player you can likely carry and win ~60-70% of your games.
  • LeagueTroll
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    1) you can't have separate ques ever so that isn't an option. The que for a random and premade group would make things worse tbh.

    2) the solution to your problem is to join a guild that does pvp or make some friends that have interest in pvp. Play together and get better and then you won't be doing random pvp anymore. That is honestly the only thing you can do.

    3) your final option is to just suck it up and accept that you are handicapping yourself by quing alone unfortunately that will never change.

    1) then remove the que as a group option
    2) how about we have some standars and try not equit us with those that has to cheese
    3) complain on forum seem to work, it got sorc shield nerfed

    1) won't work you basically want to punish players because they have friends.

    2) again it's your choice not to join a guild so I have no pitty at all if you don't wanna adapt.

    3) complain all you want but this problem will never change because it's an mmo you are suppose to play with people. If you want to play alone do malestrom arena or continue to get bodied lol

    1) what you said has nothing to do with coding limitations, it can work, just you don’t want it

    2) how is unbalanced match fun to begin with

    3) solo que only there is still groups so it’s still ‘play with ppl’
  • Drdeath20
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Dont play battlegrounds. Its meant for the gitguds.

    ? As opposed for the majority that hide behind zergs in open world and run from a 1v1

    Im not following ya.
  • ccmedaddy
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Dont play battlegrounds. Its meant for the gitguds.
    Just curious... Do the 'gitguds' refer to players who need to git gud or those who already done git gud?
  • ChunkyCat
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    Please don’t confuse the Git Guds with the Got Guds. It’s so insulting.
  • Lloydmp
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    Literally had a BG today against two premades that barely touched each other. They just farmed our Rez from each side.

    I don’t mind so much as you win some and you lose some but with all the snares, roots etc not to mention the 2+ DB followed but spin to win. It’s forcing competent players to run in groups with 1 to 2 healers.

    I honestly think enough people would play if they Added a solo queue and we can drop this fecking MMR.

    Have a surpireror league for the premades and give them shiney rewards etc.

    Maybe we can even get a fix for the buggy queues as well!
  • Taunky
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    What pisses me off even more is when the battleground begins when I only have 3/4 players on my team.
  • idk
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    1) you can't have separate ques ever so that isn't an option. The que for a random and premade group would make things worse tbh.

    2) the solution to your problem is to join a guild that does pvp or make some friends that have interest in pvp. Play together and get better and then you won't be doing random pvp anymore. That is honestly the only thing you can do.

    3) your final option is to just suck it up and accept that you are handicapping yourself by quing alone unfortunately that will never change.

    Pretty much this. Also, all OP really said is when they were queueing it was just them and this premade at the time. Otherwise they wouldn't have gotten the same group 5 times in a row.
  • Vapirko
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    Tbh I think BGs was ZOS' way of saying, "ok, people want PvP improvements. Let's bring this new type of PvP into a new chapter and see if it helps us make money and goes well, and is it worth our time?" And we all know how that turned out. Since BGs (Morrowind) PvP overall has continued to get worse. Class balance isn't too bad on a 1v1 level, but overall combat dynamic is very one dimensional and performance is barely hanging on by a thread for a lot of people. Maybe Im wrong, but I think BGs was ZOS' last attempt to reconnect with their PvP player base. Idk that were going to see much improvement or new things added from here on out.
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