PVP healer thing, what armor sets?

dazee

What armor sets would be good for a resto destro templar healer in pvp? Should i use heavy? if so which heavy set?

Taleof2Cities

Kagrenac’s Hope is a good starter heavy set for PvP healers.

It’s craftable so you don’t have to farm pieces for it. Usually, healers will craft it for a 5-5-2 setup ... all body pieces except head and shoulders which is reserved for a monster set.

Weapons and jewelry are usually reserved for the healing set. For PvP, there are a lot of good options depending on the type of content you’re running: Spell Power Cure, Olorime, Worm, Sanctuary, Gossamer ... to name a few.

Between impen set pieces and CP, be sure you’re getting over 2,000 crit resistance. Some players like 1 or 2 pieces of infused on large pieces. Others go all impen.

An additional goal to work towards is a healing springs tooltip (tick per second) of 2,500 or above.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

I'm running Transmutation, Spell Power Cure, and Troll King on my Nightblade healer.

My front bar is Mend Spirit/Elemental Weapon/Refreshing Path/Funnel Health/Aspect of Terror. My back bar is Healthy Offering/Mutagen/Healing Ward/Funnel Health/Combat Prayer. I'm using Reviving Barrier as my ultimate on both bars.

I got the idea for my toon from the black-robed Nord in "The Siege" trailer they released before launch. Gives him a nice "Battle Empath" kind of feel. I use him as a backline healer/buff-bot for large groups.

Dracan_Fontom

I use Transmutation, Shacklebreaker (Heavy) and Earthgore on my nb healer with tri stat food.

I'm super tanky in Cyro and Bgs with enough stam to break free, dodhe roll, etc. Though I may switch out Earthgore for something else like Chokethorn.

dazee

I thought healing springs wasn't as good in pvp as mutagen/combat prayer?

Taleof2Cities

dazee wrote: »

I thought healing springs wasn't as good in pvp as mutagen/combat prayer?

Springs is still yummy in PvP ... since it’s a HoT, an AoE heal, and it also restores magicka.

Mutagen and Combat Prayer are still great skills, too. The fun part is deciding which to slot on your bar (usually depends on the type of PvP content you’re running).

Chelo

Transmutation and Spell Power Cure, imo is the best combination overall. Monster Set: Earthgore or Troll King.

Taleof2Cities

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

I'm running Transmutation, Spell Power Cure, and Troll King on my Nightblade healer.

Chelo wrote: »

Transmutation and Spell Power Cure, imo is the best combination overall. Monster Set: Earthgore or Troll King.

Both of these setups are light armor, however.

You can get away with light armor in a PvP large raid group if the healer is experienced.

But, I wouldn’t recommend light armor for small group, battlegrounds, solo, non-CP, if the player is new to the healing role, or if the player is low CP.

Why?

The lack of resistances and low health (with two light armor sets) ... even with the Transmutation buff active. The days of running around Cyrodiil with 20k health are long gone.

Transmutation plus a heavy set, however, is quite a nice setup.

FakeFox

For zerg healing light armor and support sets work. For Smallscale and BGs you need to go pretty much fulltank in order to have any chance of survival. I personally wear Impregnable Armor, Desert Rose, Earthgore and a Blackrose restro at the moment but there are many other things you could run as well.

Tasear

Pvp healing is where it's at. You can support allies in all sorts of ways with gear and skills.

What class are you using?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Tasear wrote: »

Pvp healing is where it's at. You can support allies in all sorts of ways with gear and skills.

What class are you using?

Says Templar.

Reverb

You want Transmutation for PvP healing, no exception. If you are set on heavy armor look for it in jewelry and weapons. Your second set has much more flexibility. Kags, Shacklebreaker, Seducer, Lich, and many other sets are common. For monster sets most use Earthgore or Troll King.

Iskiab

Heavy fortified brass or bust. A dead healer is useless to the team. Add more survivability until you can survive enemy dawnbreakers.

Find a guildy DK and duel them with them being at full ultimate. Until you can survive indefinitely in a duel you’re not spec’d correctly for pvp.

Reverb

Iskiab wrote: »

Heavy fortified brass or bust. A dead healer is useless to the team. Add more survivability until you can survive enemy dawnbreakers.

Find a guildy DK and duel them with them being at full ultimate. Until you can survive indefinitely in a duel you’re not spec’d correctly for pvp.

Surviving Dawnbreakers is the threshold to meet for you? That's a really low bar.

Iskiab

It’s not about surviving one ability, it’s about surviving the kill/burst rotation people use in pvp. For magdk it’s something like charge (stun), another ability while mid air during the charge, debuff/dot breath, dawnbreaker.

DKs have good burst and cc, dueling one of them will give you a good indication of whether you’ll be bursted down too easily.

Reverb

Iskiab wrote: »

It’s not about surviving one ability, it’s about surviving the kill/burst rotation people use in pvp. For magdk it’s something like charge (stun), another ability while mid air during the charge, debuff/dot breath, dawnbreaker.

DKs have good burst and cc, dueling one of them will give you a good indication of whether you’ll be bursted down too easily.

As someone who has mained Templars and DKs for almost 5 years, I strongly disagree. A duel between two skilled (or even semi skilled) templar and DK is the single most boring encounter in ESO. Barring a serious mistake on one side, they almost always end in a draw when we get bored and just want to stop.

Iskiab

That’s my point, until someone can get to that point as a healer they need to work on defence.

dazee

so where do I get the transmutation and heavy fortified brass sets?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

dazee wrote: »

so where do I get the transmutation and heavy fortified brass sets?

guild stores and crafted at The Clockwork City

dazee

ok thanks I also looked it up in the meantime and found I can get transmutation from pvp rewards as well

Reverb

dazee wrote: »

ok thanks I also looked it up in the meantime and found I can get transmutation from pvp rewards as well

Not anymore. They changed the sets that you get in the reward mail a few months ago. But the elite gear vendors in Cyrodiil still sell loot boxes for the old sets, including Transmutation.

Chelo

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

I'm running Transmutation, Spell Power Cure, and Troll King on my Nightblade healer.

Chelo wrote: »

Transmutation and Spell Power Cure, imo is the best combination overall. Monster Set: Earthgore or Troll King.

Both of these setups are light armor, however.

You can get away with light armor in a PvP large raid group if the healer is experienced.

But, I wouldn’t recommend light armor for small group, battlegrounds, solo, non-CP, if the player is new to the healing role, or if the player is low CP.

Why?

The lack of resistances and low health (with two light armor sets) ... even with the Transmutation buff active. The days of running around Cyrodiil with 20k health are long gone.

Transmutation plus a heavy set, however, is quite a nice setup.

Transmutaion is a must, plus is easy to get in Jewelry and Weapons. If he need Surviva, he can get Heavy Fortified Brass and thats it. If he is good enough to survive without Heavy, then go for Spell Power Cure.

dazee

how much AP does each piece of transmutation gear cost at the vendor?

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

I'm running Transmutation, Spell Power Cure, and Troll King on my Nightblade healer.

Chelo wrote: »

Transmutation and Spell Power Cure, imo is the best combination overall. Monster Set: Earthgore or Troll King.

Both of these setups are light armor, however.

You can get away with light armor in a PvP large raid group if the healer is experienced.

But, I wouldn’t recommend light armor for small group, battlegrounds, solo, non-CP, if the player is new to the healing role, or if the player is low CP.

Why?

The lack of resistances and low health (with two light armor sets) ... even with the Transmutation buff active. The days of running around Cyrodiil with 20k health are long gone.

Transmutation plus a heavy set, however, is quite a nice setup.

You are ABSOLUTELY correct.

Like I said, I use mine as a BACK-LINE healer. The resource management is pretty sweet in light armor.

Try to act like a front-line fighter, though, and you WILL pay for it.

OneKhajiitCrimeWave

Transmutation weapons and jewellery paired with Reactive body pieces and Earthgore/Chokethorn tend to be the most common setups i run in to in and around PvP/BG's.
They're a damn pain to deal with to be fair so no wonder a lot of them have gone down that route.

Tasear

dazee wrote: »

ok thanks I also looked it up in the meantime and found I can get transmutation from pvp rewards as well

You might have easier time finding transmutation on tamerial trade center.

kvlou79

Interesting points here. For me, I couldn’t find wearing anything but 5 light to be very effective. Seemed like ran out of magicka WAY to soon. Also, you miss out on a lot spell pen and crit. There’s other ways to become defensive in light.

dazee

what about light fortified brass? then I still get a fairly big defensive bonus.

kvlou79

dazee wrote: »

what about light fortified brass? then I still get a fairly big defensive bonus.

Give it a shot! I’d recommend heavy chest reinforced if going the crafted route. The rest of your pieces impenetrable. I run 5 light-1-1 for the undaunted passive. If your on ps4 NA I’ll make it for you.

dazee

I'm on PC NA.

MaximumFrittata

I like transmutation/gossamer/earthgore for large groups and transmutation/SPC/earthgore for small groups.

Gossamer is ok, not great, but hardly anyone is running it, so even in huge zergs it's not redundant.