OUR ESO HOUSES ARE BEING VANDALIZED....Can someone PLEASE help us?

  • Mix
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    I am very sorry this happened to your friends OP. Some people don't understand how much work goes into crafting a home apparently if they think rearranging it in such a fashion is funny.

    PC/NA here, just checked all my houses and permissions are fine (at least for now!)
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  • Jayne_Doe
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    Ugh! First thing I'm going to do tonight when I log in to ESO is check my visitor settings. They've always been set to default of none, with just one player (my spouse) having permission to visit my houses.

    So, I'll keep an eye on it now to see if it ever changes to anything else. Also, I may make one of my inn rooms my primary - though they aren't empty, two of them have only minimal furnishings, so if someone messed them up, I'd more than likely just retrieve all and then leave it empty.

    It's disheartening if the offending player is someone who is in your housing guild. You'd think that someone who wanted to be a part of such a guild would have more respect for other players' homes. But, perhaps they joined specifically to try and do what they've been doing. To ruin the fun of players that specifically dedicate a lot of their game time to housing.

    I hope that ZOS considers this a priority to fix.
  • notimetocare
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    Quick and esay (partial) fix is to block editing when the player is offline. Can make it easier to catch and/or make it harder to do. Unlike other fixes, they could likely do this in a day.
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    lasertooth wrote: »
    dazee wrote: »
    Just allow people to deny access to their house to people not on friends? would that work?

    No, this is not working. The person this happened to had her house set to NO ACCESS meaning NOBODY should have been allowed to travel there. There is a glitch happening where the permissions are being changed when you log out of the game.

    This no access option will only be for people not given access by other means. For example if you set no access generally but allow access to guild / specific friends they will still be able to come if they are in guild or on the accepted list. Just make sure no one is set with editing rights and it won't happen.
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  • Xerikten
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    saved housing feature would be nice. eq2 has it for houses and guild halls. that way you can load holiday decore, revert back to changes and reload when issues like this hit.
  • Malfoy
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    lasertooth wrote: »
    I really want to clarify for anyone who is just skimming through the posts/comments and perhaps not grasping the full severity of the situation.

    There is NO way to protect your house right now. The person this happened to had all of her house permissions set to NO ACCESS. Not one guild was listed in her permissions settings. No player in the game should’ve been able to access her house at all.

    The only way to protect your house right now is to set an empty apartment to your primary.

    That's both very strange and troublesome.. Maybe a weird question, but does anyone you know, have access to your account?

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  • kadochka
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    I'm worried now. Checking my houses.. we need a fix, a way to save 'builds' of our houses, and a guestbook! ZOS! Good luck finding the sickos that did this and fixing it all!!
    NA & EU, all PC!
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  • WolfStar07
    kadochka wrote: »
    I'm worried now. Checking my houses.. we need a fix, a way to save 'builds' of our houses, and a guestbook! ZOS! Good luck finding the sickos that did this and fixing it all!!

    Being that you appear to be on PC, you should really download Essential Housing Tools and utilize the backup feature.
  • kadochka
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    WolfStar07 wrote: »
    kadochka wrote: »
    I'm worried now. Checking my houses.. we need a fix, a way to save 'builds' of our houses, and a guestbook! ZOS! Good luck finding the sickos that did this and fixing it all!!

    Being that you appear to be on PC, you should really download Essential Housing Tools and utilize the backup feature.
    I think I have it, but I don't see the feature?
    NA & EU, all PC!
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    About: my characters and me:
    MY MAINS (all female characters):
    NA:
    Ruvaakro Nahkriin - Breton blazing tank, vamp
    Lahvraan Do Onikaan - Altmer healplar
    Haziel-la - sweet, chubby kitty chef, mama role
    EU:
    Orthuna gra-Murug - big orcsorc, chef, mama role
    Penelope Hunter - Breton healplar
    Can't-Heal-Will-Revive - derpy Argonian warden tank, real name Izelda
    Kamii Ob’zahari - totally law-abiding, non-thief Khajiit
    I'm a female who's probably on the younger side of the playerbase, who played beta (got the monkey!) but stopped when it became P2P, and who lives in NA but plays more on EU (I do play NA sometimes, though). I love lore, backstories, and RP; I'm a casual player, I don't PvP, and I've never done a Trial. : ) My guilds are full, apologies, but I wouldn't mind making a few new friends!
  • WolfStar07
    kadochka wrote: »
    I think I have it, but I don't see the feature?

    I'm not in the game right now, so I'm not sure about its accuracy, but I think it was something like selecting all the items in your house and saving the selection. @R_K may have created a video tutorial on it.
  • SantieClaws
    SantieClaws
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    Khajiit installed this addon recently and was under the impression that the house layout autosaved.

    Another outstanding feature of note is that your chosen name appears as you enter. Presumably the same for friends who also have the addon? Most useful to know if you are in my tavern or temple before placing your drinks order yes!

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  • Watchdog
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    Khajiit installed this addon recently and was under the impression that the house layout autosaved.

    Another outstanding feature of note is that your chosen name appears as you enter. Presumably the same for friends who also have the addon? Most useful to know if you are in my tavern or temple before placing your drinks order yes!

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Unfortunately, the incident concerns the XBOX NA server, therefore, add-ons are unavailable to the victim.
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  • SantieClaws
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    Watchdog wrote: »
    Khajiit installed this addon recently and was under the impression that the house layout autosaved.

    Another outstanding feature of note is that your chosen name appears as you enter. Presumably the same for friends who also have the addon? Most useful to know if you are in my tavern or temple before placing your drinks order yes!

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Unfortunately, the incident concerns the XBOX NA server, therefore, add-ons are unavailable to the victim.

    Ah yes but later on in the thread it was confirmed as being an issue for PC users also.

    So if we can use Essential Housing Tools to back up our properties then we probably should.

    And for those that cannot this one hopes for a very quick fix.

    Yours with paws
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  • Watchdog
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    Aye, I hope the sick individual responsible for this is identified and faces some serious consequences.

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  • Gaterbug30
    Gaterbug30
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    This has happened to me repeatedly. I’d change it to limited visitor, leave and upon returning it was set back to decorater access. The only way I could get it to stop was loading the permissions from a house that was already set to limited visitor.
  • Ertosi
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    Gaterbug30 wrote: »
    This has happened to me repeatedly. I’d change it to limited visitor, leave and upon returning it was set back to decorater access. The only way I could get it to stop was loading the permissions from a house that was already set to limited visitor.
    What system and server do you play on?
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  • EphemeraCrawford
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    Wow this is.most disturbing. I just started letting people visit my homes and didn't anticipate a bug like this. Yes, we need a logbook. It isn't hard to code.
  • Cloudtrader
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    I certainly hope this gets fixed soon. It's making me nervous.
  • joaoppecurto
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    One of the most beautiful aspects of ESO or an MMO: housing. Such creativity I see when some random people show their houses in twitch streamers' channels.
    Many hours of creations, gold, plans or furniture farming, the personal value...
    These people must have some problem, ruining such beauty :(
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  • Tigerseye
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    One of the most beautiful aspects of ESO or an MMO: housing. Such creativity I see when some random people show their houses in twitch streamers' channels.
    Many hours of creations, gold, plans or furniture farming, the personal value...
    These people must have some problem, ruining such beauty :(

    When I was at school, the art teacher told us to make angels, out of clay, for Christmas decorations.

    She showed us how to do it - it was a generic angel, standing in a conical dress - but, me being me, I of course had to do my own thing and I made an angel kneeling, praying, instead.

    Anyway, once everyone had made their angel, she then broke it to the class that only the "best" angels would be fired in the kiln...

    The rest would be destroyed - or returned to the clay from which they had come, I guess.

    I was kind of horrified by this, even though my angel was one of the "chosen few"; despite the fact that I don't think she really appoved that I hadn't done a replica of her generic, conical angel design, lol.

    It seemed so unfair that all the work that over half the class had done was going to be trashed.

    Next day (or a the day after that - can't remember exactly) we came in and someone had knocked all the fired angels off the table they had been placed on.

    They were all damaged - mine, for example, had had its head broken off! xD

    ...most of the conical ones had faired even worse.

    We then received a long lecture about vandalism.

    I was left wondering where the lecture on level playing fields was...?

    What I'm trying to say, is that this world is a very unequal one, in so many ways; not least of which, financially.

    Some of the people who had made those, supposedly, sub-par angels had tried their best to make them well and then they were destroyed.

    So, it's hardly surprising if one of them then decided to destroy the "better" ones, too.

    ...and OK, people aren't having their houses destroyed, in ESO, if they don't reach certain standards, but they may still feel they can't really compete, in this way.

    You also have the added inequality, here, of some people being able to afford Crown Store furnishings and some not.

    All this division caused by inequality, inevitably, generates envy and envy can often lead to destruction.

    Not only that, but (given the position of the statues) it's possible the vandal, in this case, assumed the person who made the house was a gay man, rather than a woman and there was some homophobia involved, too. :/
    Edited by Tigerseye on January 1, 2019 1:34AM
  • WrathOfInnos
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    There should be a a way to save a housing state and restore to that at any point. This would fix the current problem, and allow us to try new things and give decorator permission without risk.
  • kadochka
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    There should be a a way to save a housing state and restore to that at any point. This would fix the current problem, and allow us to try new things and give decorator permission without risk.
    PC, addons? If console... sorry..
    Edited by kadochka on January 1, 2019 7:44PM
    NA & EU, all PC!
    🐱 @kadochka the cat mom 🐱

    About: my characters and me:
    MY MAINS (all female characters):
    NA:
    Ruvaakro Nahkriin - Breton blazing tank, vamp
    Lahvraan Do Onikaan - Altmer healplar
    Haziel-la - sweet, chubby kitty chef, mama role
    EU:
    Orthuna gra-Murug - big orcsorc, chef, mama role
    Penelope Hunter - Breton healplar
    Can't-Heal-Will-Revive - derpy Argonian warden tank, real name Izelda
    Kamii Ob’zahari - totally law-abiding, non-thief Khajiit
    I'm a female who's probably on the younger side of the playerbase, who played beta (got the monkey!) but stopped when it became P2P, and who lives in NA but plays more on EU (I do play NA sometimes, though). I love lore, backstories, and RP; I'm a casual player, I don't PvP, and I've never done a Trial. : ) My guilds are full, apologies, but I wouldn't mind making a few new friends!
  • Gaterbug30
    Gaterbug30
    Soul Shriven
    Ertosi wrote: »
    Gaterbug30 wrote: »
    This has happened to me repeatedly. I’d change it to limited visitor, leave and upon returning it was set back to decorater access. The only way I could get it to stop was loading the permissions from a house that was already set to limited visitor.
    What system and server do you play on?

    Xbox NA
    Gaterbug30 wrote: »
    This has happened to me repeatedly. I’d change it to limited visitor, leave and upon returning it was set back to decorater access. The only way I could get it to stop was loading the permissions from a house that was already set to limited visitor.

    Edited by Gaterbug30 on January 3, 2019 4:48AM
  • Träumer
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    Yes, we need a logbook. It isn't hard to code.

    I do understand that this bug is absolutely crap, but a logbook wouldn't fix or prevent anything. I wonder why so many people want it. Your house can still be vandalised but at least you know who it was? Doesn't sound that great to me. I'd rather see an actual fix.
  • SantieClaws
    SantieClaws
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    Träumer wrote: »
    Yes, we need a logbook. It isn't hard to code.

    I do understand that this bug is absolutely crap, but a logbook wouldn't fix or prevent anything. I wonder why so many people want it. Your house can still be vandalised but at least you know who it was? Doesn't sound that great to me. I'd rather see an actual fix.

    Identifying the individual and getting them sent to a secure cell in Oblivion would at least prevent them from doing it again no?

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  • Träumer
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    No. The person could still do it on other houses. It won't fix anything. A logbook is only useful after something happened. But the bug shouldn't be happening in the first place.
    Edited by Träumer on January 3, 2019 1:15PM
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