Advice on Tank Build

jazsper77

So I have finally decided to role a Tank after playing since launch. Just wondering on gear choices ,race and Stam/mag.

1. Leaning Nord or Argonian
2. Leaning Stam Build
3. I have Full sets of Ebon and dragonguard plus I can craft anything.
4. I will not for the life of me farm vMOL for Alkosh. Lol
5. PVE
Any advice and tips greatly welcomed and a big thanks as always.

Eso101rus

6. Farm nmol for alkosh....

jazsper77

Absolutely not gonna happen, I’d rather stick ice picks thru my eyeballs. Lol

Eso101rus

Being truthful Ebon/dragon with either lord warden or chudan is a good start. Add imperial to that shortlist as I found it very strong. But alkosh will be your long term target, embrace mol it’s a great trial when it actually works.

paulychan

Go argonian and farm mol

ZeroXFF

Ebon+Dragon is good. If you're going DK, Lord Warden would be overkill, but Chudan would give you 1.2k more HP and save you an equivalent of 270 mag regen. I used that setup for vCR progression, it's great. Make sure it's all sturdy for easy mode.

Also, you may want to wait and see what the announced racial passive rebalancing brings, as races that are the best now might end up mediocre in the future. But at this point Argonian would be the way to go.

Hixtory

paulychan wrote: »

Go argonian and farm mol

I would say the same but the annnounced incoming changes will have a probability of 99% of argonians being nerfed and nords buffed. My main tank is nord and she does fine, but with argonian right now the sustain is way better.

jazsper77

Cool , thx.

macsmooth

jazsper77 wrote: »

So I have finally decided to role a Tank after playing since launch. Just wondering on gear choices ,race and Stam/mag.

1. Leaning Nord or Argonian
2. Leaning Stam Build
3. I have Full sets of Ebon and dragonguard plus I can craft anything.
4. I will not for the life of me farm vMOL for Alkosh. Lol
5. PVE
Any advice and tips greatly welcomed and a big thanks as always.

What help I can give you is

Ebon is a great set for any tank class and for your pugs as they like the shiny balls but to be fair it’s not really needed for most vet dungeons

Dragonguard is good on any class that’s not named DK or sorcerer and this is why when you activate you ultimate on a DK you get resources returned per ultimate point cost. So by reducing your ultimate you will be reducing your resource return, sorcerers have built in ultimate reduction so the 15% of dragonguard is actually about 10% on sorcerers (guess with the percentage)

Argonians are the master tank race because of their drug habit popping pots every now and then to get resources return

Nords are great at tanking you shouldn’t underestimate that damage reduction passive it helps to reduce your damage taken so you can go a little less resistance than the other races which means you can focus on other stats

Monster sets it depends on your overall dungeon time and what you have access to

The best set is lord warden you just can’t fault it when standing your ground and helping you team

Bloodspawn is also great and helps the DK get ultimate faster for resources return

Chunda is good when you want an extra space on you bar and DKs are always wanting bar space as they have more skills than the bar has

If you have shoulders with resistance then you can use a separate helm that gives regen mag or stam which ever you need more of

Are you planning on using just s&b or s&b and staff?

Nightblades can pull off frost staffs just fine as they have skills for minor maim and fracture and ultimate gen

Wardens are great for their team utility resistance and heals

Templar’s have good damage mitigation and resources restoring

Sorcerers have the ability to take hits shield and heal and a reduction in ultimate cost

All classes have great things going for them just need to build around them

My advice is play the race and class you want they all have a unique way of tanking

Stam and mag both can work but in general you would be splitting between stam and mag skills

Edit
Also should be noted that after the next update it will be questionable if Argonians will be the best tanking race, will they be forced in to rehab and give up their pot addiction? We just don’t know

satanio

1. Be careful as race changes are incoming. Either way, race doesnt matter for casual tanking (and I think it isnt that big of a deal even in high end PvE). Right now, majority prefers argonian because of those sweet resources it provides.
2. For casual doesnt matter, but sword+shield(stam oriented) is in better spot in comparison to ice staff(mag oriented) right now. Taunting is easier and less “dangerous”. Passives are better.
3. Ebon + Dragon is perfect. You might also like Plague doctor (sometimes you need 50k Hp) or torugs pact (with crusher enchant on weapon, personally hate this set 😅). And when the time will come, you’ll somehow obtain alkosh :P. Keep your ebon on armor/ jewelery pieces, because swapping ebon weapons causes the last set bonus go on and off for your group members.
Monster set: go lord warden/chudan as eso101rus has said. I would add bloodspawn and engine guardian as other possibilities, Earthgore... depends on the fights.

ZeroXFF

macsmooth wrote: »

Dragonguard is good on any class that’s not named DK and this is why when you activate you ultimate on a DK you get resources returned per ultimate point cost. So by reducing your ultimate you will be reducing your resource return

It also reduces the time between your ultimates, so in the end the resource return will be the same, but it will give you more frequent magma shells/war horns.

WoppaBoem

Go warden Nord
Torugs, Ebon, Lord Warden
S&B front
Ice Staff back

Switch bars when out of resources and you will never run out.

Good luck.

macsmooth

ZeroXFF wrote: »

macsmooth wrote: »

Dragonguard is good on any class that’s not named DK and this is why when you activate you ultimate on a DK you get resources returned per ultimate point cost. So by reducing your ultimate you will be reducing your resource return

It also reduces the time between your ultimates, so in the end the resource return will be the same, but it will give you more frequent magma shells/war horns.

This is where you will get two sides of the same coin when it comes to tanking, for me when using those two classes it’s better to have ultimate generation than reduction as you would have if not the same time frame between ultimates

But this is tanks choice on how they want to run their ultimates

jazsper77

Thank you all for the advice and I do believe I have Lord Warden set.

Royaji

macsmooth wrote: »

Dragonguard is good on any class that’s not named DK (...). So by reducing your ultimate you will be reducing your resource return

That is wrong. You get the same amount of resources as if you used the ability at full cost.

ZeroXFF

Royaji wrote: »

macsmooth wrote: »

Dragonguard is good on any class that’s not named DK (...). So by reducing your ultimate you will be reducing your resource return

That is wrong. You get the same amount of resources as if you used the ability at full cost.

If that is true, it's awesome. Have you tested it?

macsmooth

Royaji wrote: »

macsmooth wrote: »

Dragonguard is good on any class that’s not named DK (...). So by reducing your ultimate you will be reducing your resource return

That is wrong. You get the same amount of resources as if you used the ability at full cost.

Before you go around saying something is wrong you might want to read that passive and then do the maths on resources returned

Royaji

macsmooth wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

macsmooth wrote: »

Dragonguard is good on any class that’s not named DK (...). So by reducing your ultimate you will be reducing your resource return

That is wrong. You get the same amount of resources as if you used the ability at full cost.

Before you go around saying something is wrong you might want to read that passive and then do the maths on resources returned

Have you tested it in game? I did.

jazsper77

Also I’m hearing DK and Warden are best class for tanks. Any thoughts

WoppaBoem

DK is really strong with shields. Warden is just pretty cool to play.

Imagawa

For PVE, Ebon although great, I feel its not really necessary.

I like a combination of two of the following -

Juggernaut / Knightmare / Brands of Imperium

paired with a Lord Warden set.

Juggernaut - https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Juggernaut+Set

Knightmare - https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knightmare+Set

Imperium - https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Brands+of+Imperium+Set

Lord Warden monster set - https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Lord+Warden+Set

ZeroXFF

@Royaji @macsmooth
I just tested it myself. Both with and without the Akaviri Dragonguard 5p (removed a piece of jewelry for the test without) War Horn restored 11.5k stamina. Turns out the set is even better than I thought, and I already liked it.

Royaji

ZeroXFF wrote: »

@Royaji @macsmooth
I just tested it myself. Both with and without the Akaviri Dragonguard 5p (removed a piece of jewelry for the test without) War Horn restored 11.5k stamina. Turns out the set is even better than I thought, and I already liked it.

Yes, Dragon is easily one of the best support/slefish sets in the game. It helps group with more Horns and you with better sustain.

jazsper77

You guys are awesome! So much info to process. So I guess tonight it’s off to the Alikr Dolman grind to lvl . Lol

ZeroXFF

Royaji wrote: »

ZeroXFF wrote: »

@Royaji @macsmooth
I just tested it myself. Both with and without the Akaviri Dragonguard 5p (removed a piece of jewelry for the test without) War Horn restored 11.5k stamina. Turns out the set is even better than I thought, and I already liked it.

Yes, Dragon is easily one of the best support/slefish sets in the game. It helps group with more Horns and you with better sustain.

That's why I like it, it doesn't force me to choose between defensive and support gameplay before the fight actually starts, and I can basically choose on the fly. This is very helpful in progression runs, when I don't know exactly what will go wrong and if I will even get any heals in critical moments.

Mancombe_Nosehair

It all depends on how good you are at tanking. Ebon should only really be used for trials. I use plague doctor and warrior poet, they should give you 40 to 50k health for heavy tanking ie vet dungeons. You will die less often as a result until you are more comfortable with tanking.

Royaji

luton0watford4 wrote: »

It all depends on how good you are at tanking. Ebon should only really be used for trials. I use plague doctor and warrior poet, they should give you 40 to 50k health for heavy tanking ie vet dungeons. You will die less often as a result until you are more comfortable with tanking.

You are not that experienced at tanking if you need Plague and Warrior-Poet to survive in base-game vets. All of them are doable in medium with PA/Alkosh (Btw, any Ebon+Alkosh build can sit at 40k health too).

"Build as tanky as you can" is a dangerous thought that can get you stuck in low experience groups. Only build as tanky as you need to be. Everything else is wasted. It is a good idea to be more tanky if you are new to the content though. Aforementioned Akaviri Dragonguard is a good set for new tanks, Battalion Defender is another decent one.

yurimodin

Ebon is a good starter set but its overrated IMHO.....here is my Tank build. Not Meta but its getting the job done for now.

https://youtu.be/ekK9tkC4p9Y

jazsper77

Keep the info coming

DoobZ69

Since Ebon is mandatory for trials you may as well wear it for vet dungeons. There's been many times where putting it on allowed us to complete a HM boss because it gave that tiny bit of HP boost to the under geared DPS and stopped them from dying as easily. For DLC dungeons you can even wear DPS gear if your character is built for tanking. I end up with 36k HP in Spriggans, Hundings and Tremorscale. Makes for a speedier run.

D0PAMINE

My DK Tank is as selfish as possible with Torugs, Plague Doctor and Chuden, 5 1 1 infused tri glyph.

My Warden Tank is Powerful Assault/Ebon and Earthgore for now.