This game is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE!

Foxpaw93_ESO

Yeah, aboslutely no lag on my end xD

Nothing worse than when the handful of like minded individuals throw a pity party just yes manning eachother. Especially when blaming a game for operator error level issues that nobody else seems to be dealing with. 200 on a good day? what do you even play on, a potatoe in some secluded mountain region!? Have you tried upgrading? XD

Mind you, ive got 14mods and sweetfx/injector. 0 lag and solid ping with the babiest of offchance hiccups when things get stupid chaotic in cyrodil. Raiding and PvP, its as smooth as butter. I wont say guild wars 2 lvl of fluid but there is certainly no lag

After testing, i have wow, eso, and gw2 up and still not seeing the numbers you guys are going on about. Its certainly heavier but easily playable.

D0PAMINE

Foxpaw93_ESO wrote: »

Yeah, aboslutely no lag on my end xD

Nothing worse than when the handful of like minded individuals throw a pity party just yes manning eachother. Especially when blaming a game for operator error level issues that nobody else seems to be dealing with. 200 on a good day? what do you even play on, a potatoe in some secluded mountain region!? Have you tried upgrading? XD

Mind you, ive got 14mods and sweetfx/injector. 0 lag and solid ping with the babiest of offchance hiccups when things get stupid chaotic in cyrodil. Raiding and PvP, its as smooth as butter. I wont say guild wars 2 lvl of fluid but there is certainly no lag

After testing, i have wow, eso, and gw2 up and still not seeing the numbers you guys are going on about. Its certainly heavier but easily playable.

Cool

Atreidus

BoneShatterer wrote: »

Diminish wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Man, I’m two seconds away from uninstalling this crap! I’m getting to the point I don’t care anymore...

I just came back from about a 7 month break last week. I wish I could tell you to take a break, and that it would help. However, I really cant. I instantly noticed the game is worse now than when I had left. Someday perhaps ZoS will get their ducks in a row, and fix this train wreck. Personally, I'd rather see them start over, and do a complete reboot like FFXIV did. I have a feeling their code is just a bunch of bandaids that have bandaids. As a developer, I almost feel sorry for them.

dont feel sorry for be4thesda//zenimax they asked for it. they lack of professionalism and the fact that they refuse to suport players and actualyl give somethign worth all this money is just a riffle shot in the balls. they shoudl deserve another public law suit filed against them from the crowd of ESO just like they got for FO76

The only thing: Zenimax arent the makers of Fallout76.

Blacksmoke

Does the game start up and can you move around? Yes? Good then its not LITTERALLY unplayable. I suggest playing on something other then a toaster

JumpmanLane

Blacksmoke wrote: »

Does the game start up and can you move around? Yes? Good then its not LITTERALLY unplayable. I suggest playing on something other then a toaster

I WOULD suggest many things; but, I’m sure you’d snitch me out to the people apologists tote water for hehehehe.

However, I will do you and all like-minded grammarians a favor: I’ll explain a little thing called CONTEXT. The game is LITERALLY unplayable if ALL you can do is login. If you cannot fight an NPC because your weapons swap to the opposite bar on its on, you can’t fight, not really, if your bars are crossed. If you dc when you fight a practice dummy, you can’t do parces...not really. If you can’t search a dead NPC you somehow manage to kill, AT ALL; then are you “playing” or TRYING to play? If you login to Cyrodill and dc as you approach a keep, dc while exiting a keep, dc as soon as you reach the enemy, are you “playing.”

In short, even though you can login and are connected for a time, albeit a short time, you are not “playing” the game, if the context of playing is doing ANY game activity. If you can’t stay CONNECTED long enough to do ANYTHING then you LITERALLY can’t play the game...unless your’s and ZOS’s idea of playing ESO is continually trying to do things until you very quickly DC. I would say TRYING to play the game is NOT PLAYING. If all I’m doing is logging in and TRYING to play the game, but not SUCCESSFULLY; then the game is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE. Period.

If you like the game, apologize for these people. Someone needs to SINCERELY apologize for a company whose employees joke in their official capacities-i.e. in THE PATCH NOTES about the ills of their game. (My MONEY ain’t FUNNY...to ME!).

You can pretend like the issues are my rig or my internet and assume EVERYONE ELSE’S issues stem from their computers or internet service but it’s not.

russelmmendoza

Ping 250-300.
Played random bg and dungeon.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
No lag no dc.
6 characters of fun times.

Live in Manila, Philippines.

JumpmanLane

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Ping 250-300.
Played random bg and dungeon.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
Switch character do the same.
No lag no dc.
6 characters of fun times.

Live in Manila, Philippines.

My ping is NEVER over 100, 150 tops. Had ping spikes in the 300-500 range, then 999+ and DC, in Cyrodill, in PvE open world, and in my HOUSE. I live in VA, USA. Oddly enough I never dropped below 20 FPS (the lowest) with 999+ ping. I NEVER suffered lag. Just a TON of DC’s and bugs...

Kadoin

Blacksmoke wrote: »

Does the game start up and can you move around? Yes? Good then its not LITTERALLY unplayable. I suggest playing on something other then a toaster

You're suggesting I don't play using a toaster? Well, what do you think every high-end rig or workstation is, a freezer?

eso_lags

Foxpaw93_ESO wrote: »

Yeah, aboslutely no lag on my end xD

Nothing worse than when the handful of like minded individuals throw a pity party just yes manning eachother. Especially when blaming a game for operator error level issues that nobody else seems to be dealing with. 200 on a good day? what do you even play on, a potatoe in some secluded mountain region!? Have you tried upgrading? XD

Mind you, ive got 14mods and sweetfx/injector. 0 lag and solid ping with the babiest of offchance hiccups when things get stupid chaotic in cyrodil. Raiding and PvP, its as smooth as butter. I wont say guild wars 2 lvl of fluid but there is certainly no lag

After testing, i have wow, eso, and gw2 up and still not seeing the numbers you guys are going on about. Its certainly heavier but easily playable.

How about us on console?

A handful of like minded individuals? Why dont you check the forums for performance threads before you assume that its only a handful of people having issues that no one else is having.

Or better yet you could try to be helpful by giving your specs and your experience. The truth is that we are the majority, at least when it comes to cyrodil. Not everyone has an amazing PC or amazing internet but those who do have fios internet, crazy speeds, and/or a very expensive gaming PC, seem to have little issue with performance. But this isnt how it should be. Most of us arent playing on a potato. Were playing on something that should be more than capable.

Personally I think its more to do with the internet speeds. The only people on xbox, who i have ever talked to, that dont have issues with cyrodil performance are people with fios and 700+mbs speed. That is unreasonable. I used to play this game, on xbox with 40mbs and never lag. Even in the biggest fights. Its funny now that ive upgraded everything, to combat the performance, it just keeps getting worse update after update. And I do own the game on PC and get better, but still similar, results.

I dont understand why people enjoy being ignorant and unhelpful. I mean at least if you're going to assume that we are a small minority of players who have performance issues, and that we play on potatoes, at least check the forums to see how many countless threads have been posted about performance. Plenty from people with good setups.

And again, what about us on console? Im going to assume your answer would be something like "dont play on console, PC master race" and thats fine. I agree PC is far superior to console. But my response would be, zos shouldnt have put the game on console if they weren't going to maintain or upgrade things so that the game performance didnt get worse every single update. But they did put it on console. They put out a game that 99% of people on all platforms used to be able to play just fine, but now cannot.

I would hope zos would have figured performance would be an issue as they added countless new things to the game. But it appears they didnt think of that.. I have done everything i can to make the game perform like it should on xbox, everything except getting fios which is not available on my street. But with 300 mbs, an xbox one X with the game on an ssd, and hardwired, I should be able to play without these issues. I can play every other game without an issue, including those titles you mentioned. Every other game on my xbox as well..

Tigerseye

coop500 wrote: »

I played all day with very little trouble TBH...

You're one of those people who, when someone says they couldn't sleep, you say you slept very well, aren't you? xD

Here's a clue - your experience of life isn't, necessarily, also theirs.

Empathy is your friend.

Tigerseye

Marcus684 wrote: »

I was in the same boat as the OP, with severe issues with game performance, so I decided to take a peek at the Tech Support forum. After reading a couple of threads I decided to check for a driver update for my low-end video card (GTX 650) and follow ZOS’ procedure for flushing my DNS, and was surprised to see a pretty big improvement in my game performance. Before, huge zerg battles in Vivec would cause me huge problems with connectivity and frame rate, and now I have problems only when certain infamous ball groups are running (which apparently almost everyone experiences).

I’m on PC/NA so maybe the OP doesn’t have the options I have to try to make things better, but I just wanted to put my experience out there in the hopes that other players may benefit.

I updated my video card, didn't change anything much.

Might have made things slightly smoother (when they are working as intended), but still get high ping spikes (especially just after logging on/reloading/porting/going through doors), random dcs (even with with no ping spikes) and random screen freezes, followed by crashes, after I try to log out and relog.

These are all fairly new problems (post Summerset).

Some in-game locations, like Artaeum and high population areas, like certain cities (e.g. parts of Alinor) are far worse than others.

So it's unlikely to be due to my internet, as that would presumably be the same wherever I was in-game and if I'm in The Rift (for example) everything is fine.

I'm on PC EU.

teladoy

ESO will still be good till someone else does a similar/better game free of bugs, loading screens and etc.

Myrm

Anotherone773 wrote: »

... My wife on the other hand is pretty oblivious to such things and only really notice when it actually slaps her in the face. So it would be like me noticing potholes in the road and her only noticing if we drive off a cliff...

This is me all over >.< I have not noticed any bugs in the game, and I am loving it. Perhaps it’s because I don’t go in for the PvP side of things. Maybe I am not intelligent/observant enough to notice these bugs that make the game apparently “unplayable”. In this case, ignorance is bliss. Don’t wake me up.

bearbelly

Myrm wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

... My wife on the other hand is pretty oblivious to such things and only really notice when it actually slaps her in the face. So it would be like me noticing potholes in the road and her only noticing if we drive off a cliff...

This is me all over >.< I have not noticed any bugs in the game, and I am loving it. Perhaps it’s because I don’t go in for the PvP side of things. Maybe I am not intelligent/observant enough to notice these bugs that make the game apparently “unplayable”. In this case, ignorance is bliss. Don’t wake me up.

We're just low-level noobs, Myrm. We're not "skilled" enough to notice such things, yet.

JumpmanLane

bearbelly wrote: »

Myrm wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

... My wife on the other hand is pretty oblivious to such things and only really notice when it actually slaps her in the face. So it would be like me noticing potholes in the road and her only noticing if we drive off a cliff...

This is me all over >.< I have not noticed any bugs in the game, and I am loving it. Perhaps it’s because I don’t go in for the PvP side of things. Maybe I am not intelligent/observant enough to notice these bugs that make the game apparently “unplayable”. In this case, ignorance is bliss. Don’t wake me up.

We're just low-level noobs, Myrm. We're not "skilled" enough to notice such things, yet.

If you ARE a low-level noob; then you are the only reason ZOS can squeeze any money out of the game. If you aren’t, then there is nothing funny about your comment AT ALL.

Myrm wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

... My wife on the other hand is pretty oblivious to such things and only really notice when it actually slaps her in the face. So it would be like me noticing potholes in the road and her only noticing if we drive off a cliff...

This is me all over >.< I have not noticed any bugs in the game, and I am loving it. Perhaps it’s because I don’t go in for the PvP side of things. Maybe I am not intelligent/observant enough to notice these bugs that make the game apparently “unplayable”. In this case, ignorance is bliss. Don’t wake me up.

You’re not playing the game on a high enough skill level. If you’re not playing PvP at all, then you’re not min, maxing squeezing every last bit out of your build; for example (same as if you ran veteran trials in an elite guild). You are exactly the sort of casual player who thinks everything in the game is fine because you didn’t crash at a dolmen or your 2 hour pug dungeon crawl maybe didn’t wipe a zillion times TODAY.

As a casual, you love the lore and the cute little crown outfits. Were you to try PvP (for example-and NOT give up after a zillion humbling deaths) perhaps you’d realize hitting a loading screen in the middle of a 1v1 and loading up dead is the definition of unplayable (if you COULD 1v1 anyone).

Were you to try PvP in a pop locked campaign and have to choose between logging out and walking all the way across cyrodill because you are stuck in combat, perhaps you’d wonder if the game was playable.

Were you to try PvP and disconnect as soon as you hit a Keep door perhaps your casual-bliss would be replaced with a grim certainty that ESO ain’t all rainbows and lollipops with respect to its performance.

Perhaps if you played the game at it’s cutting edge you’d realize what a poor pose Pollyannaism is...

Myrm

JumpmanLane wrote: »

You’re not playing the game on a high enough skill level...

I am playing the game how I want to play it. I am sorry if my playing style offends/upsets you.

Tigerseye

Kadoin wrote: »

Over 1/2 the day I can't connect to ZOS server and sometimes it says "account does not exist" for hours. I don't always have bad lag in the game, but when I do...I just log off. Always seems to happen when the servers are congested, how coincidental...

Of course, because that is what is causing it.

bearbelly

JumpmanLane wrote: »

bearbelly wrote: »

Myrm wrote: »

Anotherone773 wrote: »

... My wife on the other hand is pretty oblivious to such things and only really notice when it actually slaps her in the face. So it would be like me noticing potholes in the road and her only noticing if we drive off a cliff...

This is me all over >.< I have not noticed any bugs in the game, and I am loving it. Perhaps it’s because I don’t go in for the PvP side of things. Maybe I am not intelligent/observant enough to notice these bugs that make the game apparently “unplayable”. In this case, ignorance is bliss. Don’t wake me up.

We're just low-level noobs, Myrm. We're not "skilled" enough to notice such things, yet.

If you ARE a low-level noob; then you are the only reason ZOS can squeeze any money out of the game. If you aren’t, then there is nothing funny about your comment AT ALL.

You just bloviated like a hot air balloon at Myrm just to say that she isn't good enough to have an opinion about the game.
Because it doesn't match yours.

Go suck on a lemon, Scooter. It might improve your disposition.

Myrm

bearbelly wrote: »

You just bloviated like a hot air balloon at Myrm just to say that she isn't good enough to have an opinion about the game.
Because it doesn't match yours.

She? Why do you presume me to be female?

wolf486

Noticed a few others mention add-ons and I agree. Dumped two yesterday (franklins mini map and fcc or tcc, don't remember the name) in favor of Bandit UI and my performance has now been consistently good

Tigerseye

Crashed twice today, so far...

Tigerseye

NupidStoob wrote: »

Customer-Centric companies are completely destroying their competition in many fields already (Uber, Amazon etc.) I just hope that more gaming companies will realize this soon and get us away from the releases of unfinished games that are then just kept alive with bare minimum of effort. ESO to this day lacks incredibly basic features and while the game has come a long way since that terrible release it won't ever be "finished" unless they invest a massive amount of money (which they obviously won't). All they do is release half assed systems like housing as new cash grabs while just doing the bare minimum to keep the game running.

Amazon and Uber are both awful.

Not customer-centric, at all.

Try going to Amazon, for help, when your item doesn't arrive.

Terrible customer service - they, basically, tell you they can't help you.

If they can even understand what you're saying...

You're way better off buying stuff from eBay (these days), with PayPal, than from Amazon with a debit card.

Not to mention they're both exploitative of their workers and Amazon is a tax avoider.

Uber probably is too - but, I know Amazon is, for a fact.

I get what you're trying to say, but the examples you give are terrible.

What those two companies have in common is they're cheap, due to their exploitative practices.

That is not good.

By the way, answering this now, as I've just crashed for the third time, today.

Yeah.

olsborg

I quit the game due to lagg in pvp. Good riddance i say.

Lumenn

Many people are saying internet connection and it may be so, but some of us old timers remember when games like EQ etc came out, playing on DIAL UP on phone lines that were already 30 years old(this was 20 years ago ) on machines with less processing power than some WATCHES today have, with raids consisting of unlimited people(eq didn't limit number until later, and then it was 70 people I think)

Granted, more information is being sent. Graphics have improved. But we're also not on old phone lines that weren't meant for internet, or computers years away from even dual core. I still believe most of the issues are from bandaid coding after the original team packed bags and left, leaving the lower paid struggling techs to "figure it out". They may be doing an awesome job, but it's starting to catch up and zos is ignoring it to squeeze the last penny

DaveMoeDee

I am still confused by someone using "literally unplayable" in a way where they meant it literally (thus making them literally wrong).

ZarkingFrued

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Ping spikes in my HOUSE! weapons bug where they swap bars. Login to cyrodill dc. geeze then they ae joking about this crap in the patch notes! WTF! I pay MONEY for THIS!

Yeah Gina's joke was more than a little annoying. So now it's funny that we paid and continue to pay for a game that has lag so bad that you cant play at all often? I love this game, WHEN IT WORKS. Got booted yesterday, and just decided why even reload the game?

Tigerseye

Two more crashes, this time in Hew's bane.

First one was due to an attempted /reloadui, after a mount bug (that only seems to happen in Hew's Bane) and the other was after I logged back on and was stuck at 999+ ping.

So, that's five today, so far.

jircris11

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Ping spikes in my HOUSE! weapons bug where they swap bars. Login to cyrodill dc. geeze then they ae joking about this crap in the patch notes! WTF! I pay MONEY for THIS!

Are you within the us? I notice most people out side of the na/eu area tend to have a lot of lag. I run at a steady 120ms at all times. I do know that if you have an anti virus the game tends to have to run through that before receiving information. I added it to exceptions and it got rid of my high ping. Another cause could be something else running in the background that's taking up bandwidth. High ping can be related to many things from programs, server distance to how many people share your connection.

Tigerseye

...make that six.

Hasn't been this bad, for a while, to be fair.

HallowedUndead

I've had about 3 hours of play time in the past 2 weeks, and i play tank/healer. Lag is always there, but never unbearable. Dungeon times are always short for me. Game is playable. If it gets too bad, eso+ will go bye bye