Potential racial outcome?

JobooAGS

The time has come! How do you think racials will emerge next patch/how would you like them to emerge?

Edit:
For the 3rd option, I forgot to add at the end "will be made" and idk why the poll is set to annoymous, I didnt check that box

wolf486

*Wait and see

JobooAGS

For the 3rd option, I forgot to add at the end "will be made" and idk why the poll is set to annoymous, I didnt check that box

VaranisArano

I pick my characters based on a roleplaying idea like "High Elf veteran of the Three Banners War comes home and has to save Summerset" so I don't worry much about racial passives or feel any desire to race change to follow the meta.

Ertosi

Where's the "Terrified everything will go wrong" option?

Vapirko

The first choice is probably the best possible outcome. What I imagine will actually happen, is that ZOS will offer homogenized racial morph choices for all classes, keeping maybe one or two unique passives for each that don't have a bearing on character sheet stats. Then a specific set of morphs will become BiS for each role and people will be able to play whatever race they want. So you'll have more aesthetic diversity but less actual build diversity. If were lucky there won't be an OP combination that makes the game cancer somehow.

At worst ZOS removes all unique abilities, completely stripping classes of any identity. Unforeseen combinations of racial passives are combined to make on BiS combo and this is pointed out on PTS but ZOS ignores it and lets it go live and we suffer through it for several months before a half assed fix is put in place. Life goes on as usual. This is also very possible.

JobooAGS

Ertosi wrote: »

Where's the "Terrified everything will go wrong" option?

I intended that to be execute order 66

JobooAGS

Vapirko wrote: »

The first choice is probably the best possible outcome. What I imagine will actually happen, is that ZOS will offer homogenized racial morph choices for all classes, keeping maybe one or two unique passives for each that don't have a bearing on character sheet stats. Then a specific set of morphs will become BiS for each role and people will be able to play whatever race they want. So you'll have more aesthetic diversity but less actual build diversity. If were lucky there won't be an OP combination that makes the game cancer somehow.

At worst ZOS removes all unique abilities, completely stripping classes of any identity. Unforeseen combinations of racial passives are combined to make on BiS combo and this is pointed out on PTS but ZOS ignores it and lets it go live and we suffer through it for several months before a half assed fix is put in place. Life goes on as usual. This is also very possible.

Im all for diversity in games instead of people being pigeonholed into a select few races. Not everyone wants to be an elven mage or a human/kitty warrior or a lizard tank

AcadianPaladin

I'd like to hope that any racial adjustments will allow for more neutral choices than they are now. I play mages and archers - all Bosmer for RP reasons. Not pidgeonholing races into stam or mag would be most welcome.

Sylvermynx

I voted "The meta will just shift to another race(s)"

I'm not feeling the love here. So far (6 months in) I'm not finding that ZOS has any clue about anything much. I really think that they should go back to school with Beth, or take lessons from Blizz.... and I haven't played WoW since 2013....

Fortunately, I don't suck the meta, and I have fun with the game. So *shrug*.

MLGProPlayer

They're probably going to nerf Argonian, Altmer, Dunmer, and Redguard into uselessness. Buff the rest. And nerf Nords just for kicks (it wouldn't be a ZOS patch without one completely head-scratching change).

New meta probably going to be Breton for magicka DPS and heals. Khajiit for stamina. Imperial for tank. Gotta sell those race change tokens.

Glurin

Both the first and second are true. The races will be balanced such that you won't be gimping yourself for picking the "wrong" one, but the meta will just shift to whatever the "best" one is anyway. That's what the meta does. Unless options are mathematically identical in every way, there will always be a meta choice and you will always be ridiculed for not following it.

TheInfernalRage

I need the "Don't have a crystal ball" option.

I'll react when the changes are on PTS. Until then, it's pointless to speculate. Although, speculating can add to some gamers' sense of authority about what's going on in the game.

Sylvermynx

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

They're probably going to nerf Argonian, Altmer, Dunmer, and Redguard into uselessness. Buff the rest. And nerf Nords just for kicks (it wouldn't be a ZOS patch without one completely head-scratching change).

New meta probably going to be Breton for magicka DPS and heals. Khajiit for stamina. Imperial for tank. Gotta sell those race change tokens.

Ain't hap'nin here. I have a lot of girls, a lot of races, a lot of classes. If none of them seem to cut the mustard.... I'll buy a second account.

But I don't think it's going to be a problem for me. I'll play what I have, and do what I do. Level slowly, because with lag like mine there's no way I can kill quest line mini-bosses....

kadochka

Ertosi wrote: »

Where's the "Terrified everything will go wrong" option?

Yep.

also can someone explain the 'order 66' joke to me, I don't watch that. And before you hate,



...I don't like the series. Now feel free to hate twice as much. I won't care...

Sylvermynx

@kadochka - yeah, no clue on that either. I suppose it must be something on tv? I don't DO tv. Never have....

kadochka

Sylvermynx wrote: »

@kadochka - yeah, no clue on that either. I suppose it must be something on tv? I don't DO tv. Never have....

Looked it up, vaguely.. think it's Star Wars..?

JobooAGS

kadochka wrote: »

Ertosi wrote: »

Where's the "Terrified everything will go wrong" option?

Yep.

also can someone explain the 'order 66' joke to me, I don't watch that. And before you hate,



...I don't like the series. Now feel free to hate twice as much. I won't care...

Execute Order 66 was given to kill the jedi... in this case to kill the racials... or its just there for the meme

JobooAGS

kadochka wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

@kadochka - yeah, no clue on that either. I suppose it must be something on tv? I don't DO tv. Never have....

Looked it up, vaguely.. think it's Star Wars..?

And youre right

kadochka

JobooAGS wrote: »

kadochka wrote: »

Ertosi wrote: »

Where's the "Terrified everything will go wrong" option?

Yep.

also can someone explain the 'order 66' joke to me, I don't watch that. And before you hate,



...I don't like the series. Now feel free to hate twice as much. I won't care...

Execute Order 66 was given to kill the jedi... in this case to kill the racials... or its just there for the meme

Aahhh, ok!! Makes sense now. Thanks!

Sylvermynx

Oh. Well. I watch the first three movies to this day, several times a year. Not much interest in the others.

Lumenn

No way to know yet. Zos could just shift meta, or they may strip all racials and leave your 1% gold/exp etc and call it done(they don't always nerf in ways that would help THEM either, such as race change).

When can we see this on pts anyone know?

Tasear

As mentioned in public notice this time your class reps will bring up concerns on your behalf before changes hit pts. While it's impossible for everyone to be happy would have a bit more faith.

rexagamemnon

As long as Imperial passives become the best that is all that matters, nerf everything else into the ground!😂

idk

Considering Zos rebalanced racial passives less than two years ago and feel the need to do it again should be enough to demonstrate what we should expect.

Couple that with the brilliant rebalancing of weapon traits that lead DPS from 2 traints and tanks from a selection to both builds preform best with infused.

Zos has a great track record for changing their mind on how to balance this game and not thinking through major changes they implement.

In other words, most of us would have a new career by now if we managed things that good.

BretonMage

Really hard to say without looking at the proposed changes. But if history is any indication, I'm not optimistic.

WuffyCerulei

I’m not 100% sure what is gonna happen, but I think they’re looking at evening out the races so certain ones aren’t the absolute best at certain roles by miles over the other races, like redguards for stam dps and altmer/dunmer for magicka dps. I think they’ll try to make it so other stam races will be more in line with them, as with magicka races. I can also see Breton and Nord buffs.

Burtan

Even if the changes simply add stamina and magicka options in racial morphs it will be a huge quality of life change. I really hope they don't make another really dumb change that gets hotfixed in a few weeks.

Vapirko

Burtan wrote: »

Even if the changes simply add stamina and magicka options in racial morphs it will be a huge quality of life change. I really hope they don't make another really dumb change that gets hotfixed in a few weeks.

Well it would honestly be a first, so....

jtm1018

You know deep down racial will be so *** *** up when their done with.

jtm1018

Then their going to fix it to make it more broken and then everything will be definitely packing packed upped.